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[Conceited]

http://www.twitch.tv/capcomunity

Capcom Unity stream of the PS1 Darkstalkers with Seth Killian, game came out on PSN today, might be some talk of AE 2012 and possibly talk of a new Darkstalkers.

 

[stabicron7]

As Fei I have a really hard time with that matchup. I don't know any Bisons so I've played the matchup probably less than 10 times and haven't had a chance to really figure it out. I tend to get caught in the scissor pressure and can't find a good way out (and by that I mean I get impatient and do stupid shit because pushing buttons is fun).

heh and that is exactly what Bison wants you to do. Fei's normals almost all beat Bison's hitbox wise and lp rekka might as well be treated as a normal on its own.

 

[biosnake20]

emp sp00ky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O1EAYpUsm0&feature=g-all

 

[Kadey]

AE lobby up.

http://www.justin.tv/kadeybaybe#/w/2157601600

 

[Imm0rt4l]

c'mon capcom, daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

 

[Rickenslacker]

emp sp00ky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O1EAYpUsm0&feature=g-all

I lol'd.

 

[Professor Beef]

c'mon capcom, daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

- "Gouken's counter can no longer be broken, and he loses less grey health when activated."

 

[Imm0rt4l]

- "Gouken's counter can no longer be broken, and he loses less grey health when activated."

 

[alstein]

- "Gouken's counter can no longer be broken, and he loses less grey health when activated."

Hopefully that means it catches armor breakers- if so I may give this game another shot.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Hopefully that means it catches armor breakers- if so I may give this game another shot.

Very much doubt it would happen as long as it's tied to the focus attack system.

 

[Rice-Eater]

Heads up guys, they're releasing the final balance changes for AE 2012 at 5 PM Pacific time(8 PM Eastern for us East Coast guys). Which is approximately 21 minutes from this post right now, GET HYPE.

http://twitter.com/#!/sethkillian/status/141573827615395840

 

[vulva]

time for them to announce that chun now has a teleport

 

[Professor Beef]

Would love to see Hawk's bounceback from an SPD get fixed so it's like Seth and Gief's, but I know it won't happen.

 

[Hitokage]

Would love to see Hawk's bounceback from an SPD get fixed so it's like Seth and Gief's, but I know it won't happen.

Hawk can low dive to get back in.

 

[Professor Beef]

Hawk can low dive to get back in.

I know he can. I do it all the time. It'd just be nice to have that fixed so he can have the same corner mixup opportunities as Gief and Seth. Such is the life of a low-tier, though.

 

[Hitokage]

I know he can. I do it all the time. It'd just be nice to have that fixed so he can have the same corner mixup opportunities as Gief and Seth. Such is the life of a low-tier, though.

Oh, you want him to be good. Sorry, can't happen.

 

[narcosis219]

IT'S 5 PM PST WHERE IS CHANG LIST? DAMNIT NOW I HAVE TO GO HOME

 

[Professor Beef]

Oh, you want him to be good. Sorry, can't happen.

 

[Rice-Eater]

IT'S 5 PM PST WHERE IS CHANG LIST? DAMNIT NOW I HAVE TO GO HOME

OMG WTF, TIME TO PANIC

 

[vulva]

http://www.capcom-unity.com/gregama..._arcade_edition_ver._2012_complete_change_log

 

[Conceited]

Hype.

 

[Rice-Eater]

http://static.capcom.com/streetfigh...rcade Edition 2012 Final Change List - US.pdf

 

[Professor Beef]

Am I reading Ryu's change right? You can't FADC Fierce SRK anymore?

 

[vulva]

Am I reading Ryu's change right? You can't FADC Fierce SRK anymore?

I think that was a known change for awhile now.


Also, looks like spamming crouching light kicks just got easier for chun players ;3

 

[Conceited]

Am I reading Ryu's change right? You can't FADC Fierce SRK anymore?

Thats an old change.

 

[Skilotonn]

I can't recall that Tortilla Propeller spin was totally invincible from the first to 13th frame in any 2012 changelog, so if this is what Seth was talking about, it really was a good change after all, nice.

Oh, and unless they took some things back that they announced earlier, some things are missing, like Dee Jay being able to combo his super into U1.

Thank you for getting rid of that stupid counter-hit mess for Dee Jay with Air Slasher, and thank you for returning Honda's Jab Headbutt to its former glory!

 

[Rice-Eater]

Welps, no further changes for Evil Ryu. Which I'm somewhat disappointed with but I can easily live with it as I've been playing Yeb's version a lot to prepare for it and I think he's good enough the way he is. Still would have liked a couple more changes but like I said, I can live with it. I really don't think the charge time for Metsu Hadoken is as short as Yeb's version so I better stop getting use to it unless somehow it turns out to be true.

I haven't read all the changes. Did anybody get better or worse since the last update?

 

[Wiseblade]

S.Kill got me excited over a wall bounce? All that really leads to is guac since you can't do a super after an EX move. The other changes are great, although I wish they'd have give Ultra Spark it old startup back.

 

[Professor Beef]

Oni has 1000 health now?

Also, aside from the cr.hk buffs and the down-forward lp change, Hawk's changes are as meh as I expected.

 

[stabicron7]

Oni has 1000 health now?

Also, aside from the cr.hk buffs and the down-forward lp change, Hawk's changes are as meh as I expected.

Yeah Oni has a lot of other problems other than his health. It helps a bit but his mobility and pokes are pretty bad.

Changed damage motion when hitting crouching opponents, making it easier to land
a hit when canceling a special or other move from a Gankauchi.

I am hoping that means TC2 will work on crouchers now. I can't tell you how annoying that is that it doesn't.

 

[Conceited]

Happy with the changes overall, the characters I care about either got minor nerfs or slight buffs.

 

[DryEyeRelief]

socks

 

[Degen]

I see the developers are still afraid to do anything non-minor for Hawk

 

[gutter_trash]

http://static.capcom.com/streetfigh...rcade Edition 2012 Final Change List - US.pdf

see you guys in a few weeks!

My AE boycott will come to and end

 

[Professor Beef]

Maybe I should just go back to Ibuki or Claw.

 

[Conceited]

So who wants to take a stab at the top 5 characters in 2012 now that we have the final changelist?

 

[Rickenslacker]

http://static.capcom.com/streetfigh...rcade Edition 2012 Final Change List - US.pdf

see you guys in a few weeks!

My AC boycott will come to and end

Once an update has been announced, I tend to lose all motivation to play the current version. Needless to say, I've been playing very little Street Fighter this year. Bring on 2012.

 

[Cloudius12]

Gen is all buffed, but we already know this.

I never really used Medium or Heavy version of Gekiro, not since Vanilla anyways. The buffs on that is good, too bad there is no change on weak version.

EX Roll attack seems to get buffs all around, but I only use it from getting out of fireball traps and such.

Crane's Cr. Roundhouse with + active frame is good for me.

Gen is still not going to be high tier because he is kinda free on wake up still.

 

[MIMIC]

S.Kill got me excited over a wall bounce? All that really leads to is guac since you can't do a super after an EX move. The other changes are great, although I wish they'd have give Ultra Spark it old startup back.

*reads Fuerte changes*

Hmmm...they fixed the RSF slide glitch. I guess that's a plus

EDIT: Oh wow, they killed Viper. The EX Hammer loses its throw invincibility.

 

[stabicron7]

EDIT: Oh wow, they killed Viper. The EX Hammer loses its throw invincibility.

Nah this won't kill viper *sadly*. They simply gave the throw invul to her hp TK.

 

[Rice-Eater]

Nah this won't kill viper *sadly*. They simply gave the throw invul to her hp TK.

I'll gladly take the trade. At least HP TK is unsafe on block where as EX seismo is safe on block and can be jump canceled.

 

[Degen]

Maybe I should just go back to Ibuki or Claw.

I was already pretty close to making my secondary (Zangief) the main. Almost picked him for Gafbats

especially since, y'know, an ant could step on Hawk's chances of getting into SFxT

 

[stabicron7]

I'll gladly take the trade. At least HP TK is unsafe on block where as EX seismo is safe on block and can be jump canceled.

Correct me if I am wrong but hp tk can be cancelled as well.

 

[Imm0rt4l]

Correct me if I am wrong but hp tk can be cancelled as well.

yea, it can be fadc'd.

 

[Rice-Eater]

Correct me if I am wrong but hp tk can be cancelled as well.

Yes it can be(and it's harder from what I hear), but I'm talking about it using it as a reversal. Like in those situations where you hit her in air to air encounters and you want to go for a throw or a low attack but then you have to worry about reversals EX seismo or HP TK. At least now they're both unsafe in there own way.

 

[AkumaHokoru]

Juri is a red headed stepchild. Every char on the roster has been dumb once except her.

 

[stabicron7]

Juri is a red headed stepchild. Every char on the roster has been dumb once except her.

Oh? When has DeeJay been dumb? Or Gouken?

 

[Threi]

Are there any bad matchups that people like playing? Personally, I love the Sagat matchup even if it's a nightmare for Hawk to get around the tiger shots.

I love fighting guiles. And despite how I hate how easy things are on their end (and how little they have to think to win), fighting bisons are kinda fun.

 

[AkumaHokoru]

Oh? When has DeeJay been dumb? Or Gouken?

Gouken in 4 was execution heavy but a very dangerous char in capable hands.
Deejay was dumb in super. or do you forget knee drop hell? you had to have a good reversal or guess right to get out.

 

[Professor Beef]

Gouken in 4 was execution heavy but a very dangerous char in capable hands.
Deejay was dumb in super. or do you forget knee drop hell? you had to have a good reversal or guess right to get out.

T. Hawk. Hakan.