Professor Beef
Banned
Why have a changelist at all then?
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Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition |OT4| Daigo Who?
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Why have a changelist at all then?
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
There's already more than enough to discover in learning how the changes impact match-ups.
I'll kill you all!!!!!!!!!!!
FindMyFarms
Member
Kobe Bryant! For 3! It's good! And the lakers take the game!!! Oh wait, kobe, that doesn't count, since you were in the corner and there's less than 2 minutes left. Kobe, "wtf? that wasn't in the rule list update with the handchecks over the summer???" Stern, "teehee...sometimes its better for the players to find out on their own hehehehe."
Not the biggest deal to me, since SF4 isn't exactly the most respected competitive game/hobby in the world, but if it ever hopes to be, then this is something capcom absolutely cannot do.
Not the biggest deal to me, since SF4 isn't exactly the most respected competitive game/hobby in the world, but if it ever hopes to be, then this is something capcom absolutely cannot do.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Yeah that sucks about the unlisted changes. I think it's mostly a cultural thing that Capcom Japan just doesn't understand. They probably think they're doing a good thing by making it "exciting" to find new changes for ourselves.
So anyway
From Shrio. Can anyone translate?
So anyway
From Shrio. Can anyone translate?
sixteen-bit
Member
The machine translation mentions fraud. Is he talking about Mike Ross?
AZ Greg
Member
Seriously.
I can't believe people are upset over this. Then again, I don't get the people who get enjoyment out of the game when they just x-copy combos, setups, etc... from top players and don't try and discover anything on their own.
Why give thanks for something completely wrong.
sixteen-bit
Member
Professor Beef
Banned
You don't have to be a competitive player to be angry at Capcom intentionally hiding things from a "complete change log."
notworksafe
Member
What were you people like in 1992 when CE came out?
biosnake20
Member
Wow cody's walkspeed buffs look basically unnoticeable.
I'm curious as well.
sixteen-bit
Member
Knife looked faster though. Goody?
Really?
Professor Beef
Banned
I was 8, so I was probably playing with my TMNT action figures.
biosnake20
Member
His forward is very slight but noticeable but the backwards looks exactly the same. To be honest thats what i was expecting, a very slight buff. Juri got a bigger speed buff then that from what it looks like. Knife buffs are neat.
LOL, I just realized you could toggle between normal and "elite" in the Boss, Newcomers, Alpha etc. channels.
*WTF does "elite" mean?*
*Presses play and up comes a match between Tokido and Daigo*
^_^
EDIT: Heh, currently watching a fellow Gaffer get his ass whooped in the elite channel. =p
*WTF does "elite" mean?*
*Presses play and up comes a match between Tokido and Daigo*
^_^
EDIT: Heh, currently watching a fellow Gaffer get his ass whooped in the elite channel. =p
notworksafe
Member
Elite just means they have 3000+ PP
DjangoReinhardt
Thinks he should have been the one to kill Batman's parents.
I was picking Bison. Unless you had money to burn and unlimited free time, trying to test stuff in a crowded arcade where it was every man for himself was not a great idea. The "community" was nothing like it is today. Hell, you were lucky if someone would tell you the correct input for a move if you asked.
It boggles my mind that people defend Capcom's archaic nonsense. Who benefits from this? Who is asking for them to disclose less information? If it's such a great idea, why don't the more successful competitive games do it to this extent as well?
Capcom has spent the last 20 years demonstrating that they have almost the most myopic view of the competitive scene possible. Street Fighter had a massive headstart on StarCraft and is way more accessible, but is nowhere near as popular. What has Capcom done to convince people that they deserve the benefit of the doubt on this stuff?
AZ Greg
Member
People who like to figure things out on their own without having to have it spoon-fed to them?
No one is defending capcom, just saying it's not something to get your panties in a bunch over. Is it something to be annoyed about? Yea(ok not really...), but they've been doing this for a while now, why act brand new now? It's really not even that big of a deal, you'll know the differences after you've played it extensively. I don't understand feeling of entitlement.
Question to the people outraged about the 'hidden' changes. Would you be more upset or less upset if Capcom just said "balance change coming", left it at that and let people figure this stuff out for themselves?
Besides, regardless of knowledge on these buffs and nerfs, it's still going to take people the same amount of time to actually put these changes in to motion. It's not like theory fighter has ever proven to be 100% accurate.
Besides, regardless of knowledge on these buffs and nerfs, it's still going to take people the same amount of time to actually put these changes in to motion. It's not like theory fighter has ever proven to be 100% accurate.
I don't care if Cody's walkspeed is .000001 percent faster. I'll be happy.But to be honest, Realized at the end of the day, that right now I'm using him to effectively place top in tournaments locally and that the cause of my shortcomings aren't the character but moreso myself and my application of his moveset.
Buffs are great and make me excited for the new game but I'm not gonna cry any moar and blame my character who in the grand scheme of things is already tournament viable.(Shoutouts to Momochi)
I am very happy at the change to MK ruffian though. I can't tell you how many times I've legitimately used it to punish a Focus attack or just as a combo ender against characters like Fei Long and Zangief and just completely whiffed through their entire hitbox. Glad Capcom noticed and hopefully fixed that.
Buffs are great and make me excited for the new game but I'm not gonna cry any moar and blame my character who in the grand scheme of things is already tournament viable.(Shoutouts to Momochi)
I am very happy at the change to MK ruffian though. I can't tell you how many times I've legitimately used it to punish a Focus attack or just as a combo ender against characters like Fei Long and Zangief and just completely whiffed through their entire hitbox. Glad Capcom noticed and hopefully fixed that.
notworksafe
Member
Blizzard releases some of the most comprehensive patch notes I've ever seen with their WoW stuff, and even they don't put everything in the notes. If they don't do it....not sure what company will. It'll be okay. Just take a deep breath and read SRK a week after the patch comes out on console. It'll all be revealed.
biosnake20
Member
The mk ruffian buff is my favorite buff lol. It always annoyed me that the hitbox ended at his ankle.
Professor Beef
Banned
The combination of Seth teasing it on twitter (before admitting that he doesn't necessarily agree with it) and Capcom hiding things from a "complete" changelog are what annoy me. It's up to them if they want to reveal things, but don't lie to people at the same time.
I agree it's annoying, in the same way that someone stopping in an aisle at a store is. Extremely mildly. Certainly not worth caring about for more than a moment.
There is also an AE2012 tournament happening in Japan if you want to check that out
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/startingover2nd
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/startingover2nd
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Darry is bess commentator.
any notable players participating?
Rice-Eater
Member
So far I've seen Nishiken(#1 Blanka) and Shungoku Neurosis(#2 Dictator)
EDIT: And we have a Kim1234 sighting
black_vegeta
Member
Fixed.
Edit: Nekojita, neurosis, Shin juri, Shiro, Kim1234, shinosuke,shin chan and Reiketsu are in the finals according to Kim1234 twitter.
black_vegeta
Member
Shiro up on the JP stream
and Kim1234 beats Neoursis
Shinchan Adon beats Nekojita's Abel.
and Kim1234 beats Neoursis
Shinchan Adon beats Nekojita's Abel.
black_vegeta
Member
broz0rs
Member
HAHAHAH.. serves him right to be that ridiculously aggressive.
black_vegeta
Member
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
Kim1234 saying fuck it. You press buttons, I ultra
Kim1234 saying fuck it. You press buttons, I ultra
KidA Seven
Member
Ricky played very well in the finals. Props to Mr. Naps for bodying everyone save Ricky.
Rice-Eater
Member
I'm happy to see him do well with Evil Ryu but he's just scratching the surface of what he's capable of. The character has some mix ups, gimmicks, combos into hard knockdown and Naps wasn't utilizing any of this. I was kind of frustrated watching because I think at certain times it would have been a good idea to try this or that. But he stuck with fundamentals and I think some of it has to do with him just now knowing what works. For example two of the best situations to start a dive kick mix up with Evil Ryu is forward and back throw, whenever Naps landed a forward throw he went for a dive kick, but when he landed back throws he didn't.
He's just scratching the surface right now so I hope he can keep it up and do some new stuff as well as the stuff that's been there since day one.