Thanks, I'll try that. I've been doing it the long way by recording the move and using it as a frame trap. Assuming my timing is perfect, I can tell how many frames I'm at if the moves trade. Hard part is the perfect timing.
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Thanks, I'll try that. I've been doing it the long way by recording the move and using it as a frame trap. Assuming my timing is perfect, I can tell how many frames I'm at if the moves trade. Hard part is the perfect timing.
solidgear91
Member
This is how I would do it. I use the same method in KoF XIII to test frame advantage, except it's easier in that game because there's an option to set the dummy to jump right after they block a move.
Isn't there frame data that contains that info?
Possibly but I haven't seen it. I've been playing gouken for so long and I just found out that focus cancelling the first hit of EX palm on block is pretty safe. I've always focus cancelled the second hit and back dashed which works well since reversals whiff completely but fast, long reaching normals will often hit. Haven't done too much testing buts it's at least even on block, possibly +1.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Hai guyz what's up I haven't been keeping up with much SF news lately but -
HOLY SHIT
:O
Dhalsim
Two hits on his far standing middle kick, so opponents can't free focus.
Damage increase on back plus hard kick.
Reduce push-back on back plus medium kick.
Damage increase on far standing hard punch.
Increase hit-stun on light and medium slide kick.
Damage increase on EX Yoga Flame.
Increase speed of Yoga Drill.
I only use the middlekick as a pre-emtive antiair or longer poke than standing medium punch.
Having it as a two hit make it good against focus happy giefs and makotos. I wonder how deep the kick has to be for it to be two hits.
Man, those possible Sim changes sound awesome.
HOLY SHIT
:O
Rice-Eater
Member
It depends on what they mean by that buff for Dhalsim. If you only get two hits when your opponent is pretty close to you, that's fine. But their is no way he should get two hits at mid screen for example. I'd much prefer if one of his close normals was buffed to be 2 hits instead of the far ones. If you use focus to try and get in on Dhalsim, but you're too far to hit him with it then he shouldn't be able to break the focus either with a limb.
And Vega with a 3 frame cr. MP, are you fucking kidding me? Can't they just make his jab +5 instead if Vega players wants the link to be easier? A normal with that much range shouldn't be that fast.
And Vega with a 3 frame cr. MP, are you fucking kidding me? Can't they just make his jab +5 instead if Vega players wants the link to be easier? A normal with that much range shouldn't be that fast.
RockTurtle
Member
Dhalsim
Two hits on his far standing middle kick, so opponents can't free focus.
Damage increase on back plus hard kick.
Reduce push-back on back plus medium kick.
Damage increase on far standing hard punch.
Increase hit-stun on light and medium slide kick.
Damage increase on EX Yoga Flame.
Increase speed of Yoga Drill.
I only use the middlekick as a pre-emtive antiair or longer poke than standing medium punch.
Having it as a two hit make it good against focus happy giefs and makotos. I wonder how deep the kick has to be for it to be two hits.
Man, those possible Sim changes sound awesome.
yo that buff scares the absolute shit out of me. Sim players can usually keep me locked on the other side of the screen, so random focuses usually kept me on somewhat even footing. but having this type of move that hits far, is anti-air, and can cancel focus is nuts.
stabicron7
Member
More bothered about what it could mean for me if B+MK gets less pushback honestly. The one thing that gives me a decent way in besides guess and make him trade with slide is that EX SK is not able to be punished that hard by sim on block (oddly enough trying to focus anything but his stand fierce doesn't usually work too well). Gives me a way in with meter.
RockTurtle
Member
back to 2000 PP
and the icing on the cake it was against the top 13th Vega and the one dude who just absolutely wailed on me nonstop in endless! so tasty!
and the icing on the cake it was against the top 13th Vega and the one dude who just absolutely wailed on me nonstop in endless! so tasty!
Professor Beef
Banned
A friend of mine thought I was trolling him when we played a bunch of offline games because I was constantly beating him with Hawk. It got to a point where he said "STOP TROLLING ME ALREADY" and I had to explain to him that Hawk was my main.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Makoto and Yun are gonna be top 5 if those posts from the devs are anything to go by.
Dat SF4: 3rd Strike.
Dat SF4: 3rd Strike.
Rice-Eater
Member
For Makoto I see a bunch of small buffs. I don't play the character so I don't know how that will affect her. But I guess it can only be good. For Yun, all they listed was U2 and his health to be buffed. It helps, but that's not going to make him top tier. He'll still be good like he is now, but those aren't game changers. If they returned his DK recovery to 4f again, then we're talking.
I think the suggestions Combo sent in had a lot of buffs. And not the useless kind, very good buffs. The Japanese blog, not so much. But still it sounds like he's only going to get better if anything.
I looked for the Eventhubs article about the Ken buffs Combofiend suggested and decided to read the comments.
I'm not a good player or anything, but oh my god are these people serious?
Well an increase in walk speed and his ability to combo into sweep again is massive, if that's all he gets he's better than AE where he was arguably the top shoto.
they better. Yang too.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
A 3f st.lk for Makoto would be fucking insane considering its range + blockakusa. But if they give her a 3f short it'll probably be cr.lk or something.
black_vegeta
Member
Anyone want some got damn games on PC?
GT: Battle Kat
GT: Battle Kat
Pump your brakes, yo.
what the hell is wrong with people online (especially on PC)
I cant even get a damn match without someone popping off like an idiot. (win or lose, its usually they lose a bunch, win once, and then kick)
I really think the lack of comp on PC gets to their heads and they wind up thinking they are way better than they actually are.
Is it so hard to just play a set and if you are done say you are done and "ggs"? No need to act like a fucking asshole.
I cant even get a damn match without someone popping off like an idiot. (win or lose, its usually they lose a bunch, win once, and then kick)
I really think the lack of comp on PC gets to their heads and they wind up thinking they are way better than they actually are.
Is it so hard to just play a set and if you are done say you are done and "ggs"? No need to act like a fucking asshole.
black_vegeta
Member
Threi pls.
I have my messaging set to friends only. Now I just get friends popping off. No other riff raff to deal with
why's your sagat so fray KappaBV
black_vegeta
Member
PC version is so damn dead. I been convincing everybody I run into to get it. Just played somebody who couldn't block burn kicks properly ragequit. It's sad because it is the best running version. Plenty of people on PSN, my lobbies always get full there but the lag is unbearable at times.
Rice-Eater
Member
Man I've been absent from this game since getting married. Oh yeah, if you didn't know, I got married a couple of weeks ago. My late night sessions are all but gone now since the wife doesn't like to be annoyed while trying to sleep. Hopefully I can still catch some of you guys during the day or early night time(before midnight).
Passive Assassin
Member
Grats. Time for silent buttons?
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Congrats!
Congratulations !
Congrats RE!
Damn I wanna play again (getting the itch) but my internet... my internet *sniff*... won't let me happily play
Congrats man!
Yup. BV knows bout dat wife and dat silent buttons.
I've modded mine with silent buttons and led based stick pcb ... my wife still gives me shit for making noises when playing
.I've modded mine with silent buttons and led based stick pcb ... my wife still gives me shit for making noises when playing
Life is so unfair.
black_vegeta
Member
I've modded mine with silent buttons and led based stick pcb ... my wife still gives me shit for making noises when playing
Well, mah wife stopped bitching once I got dem silent buttons. Life is well in the BV household. (^_^)
Edit: Congrats Rice. You now know bout dat married life.
Rice-Eater
Member
Thanks guys, I will look into silent buttons. My only worry now is myself. I might rage and yell while playing which will still bug her and keep her awake.
sf2fanatic
Member
Congrats on the marriage. As a married man myself I use the pad controller to play late nights and moved the PS3 to another TV in the room so my wife can still listen to her shows while trying to get some sleep. I learn E Honda and Blanka well from using pad. Good Luck!!!
Congrats Rice. I thought you were going to get married around EVO time? Anyway, this calls for a wedding present. I'll think of something.
Last night started off slow but it ended up pretty fun. PSN is T.Hawk country and PC is Akuma country. Aqua was in the stream chat for a little while. Was trying to get him to play but it seems he doesn't like PC version. I like fighting really good grapplers.
Now that I have a dual lobby setup, it's harder for me to play on PC because I lay my stick on a table, which is custom done to my height perfectly next to my chair. The PS3 stick occupies that so I have to put the PC stick on top of my table. It's like 3 inches higher so certain moves are harder to perform because of my wrist and arm being elevated higher than it should be. I also tried playing on my lap but that too is awkward because I have to lower my wrist and arm as well as dealing with the small amount of room in between my PC chair. First world problems.
Last night started off slow but it ended up pretty fun. PSN is T.Hawk country and PC is Akuma country. Aqua was in the stream chat for a little while. Was trying to get him to play but it seems he doesn't like PC version. I like fighting really good grapplers.
Now that I have a dual lobby setup, it's harder for me to play on PC because I lay my stick on a table, which is custom done to my height perfectly next to my chair. The PS3 stick occupies that so I have to put the PC stick on top of my table. It's like 3 inches higher so certain moves are harder to perform because of my wrist and arm being elevated higher than it should be. I also tried playing on my lap but that too is awkward because I have to lower my wrist and arm as well as dealing with the small amount of room in between my PC chair. First world problems.
Don't PS3 sticks also work on PC? Mine does.
Congratulations Rice Eater! Hopefully you can find a way to play without bothering your wife. Maybe you should try holding in the rage, lol.
Did he say why? I'm kinda curious.
Speaking of which, I was playing on a friend's CRT+360 last week and I couldn't time anything properly. I kept doing things during my move recovery or dash recovery ;_;. I guess I've gotten too used to online timing.
Mine didn't until I got it dual-modded. I think I have a Round One Madcatz stick.
Did he say why? I'm kinda curious.
Speaking of which, I was playing on a friend's CRT+360 last week and I couldn't time anything properly. I kept doing things during my move recovery or dash recovery ;_;. I guess I've gotten too used to online timing.
Mine didn't until I got it dual-modded. I think I have a Round One Madcatz stick.
sixteen-bit
Member
Depends. Some Madcatz ones have issues I believe.