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Corky · Aug 23, 2011

cHaotix8 said:
If the rose did chip damage it'd be a guaranteed win in chip situations. Either block the rose or try to backdash/jump/dp and get EX MGB'd.

guaranteed chip wins aren't really that uncommon, *hugs seth u2*

Remus · Aug 23, 2011

Professor Beef said:
I honestly can't think of any "OMG MUST HAVE" changes for Hawk. I guess maybe...

- EX Dive always lands close on block (that sweet spot is nearly impossible to land consistently)

Glad I'm not the only one who has trouble landing that "sweet spot". It feels pretty random for me when it actually happens.

zlatko · Aug 23, 2011

Who's going to watch Cross Counter Live tonight? It'll be interesting to see how many viewers they get. Anyone want to take bets what the stream will cap out at ?

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

zlatko said:
Who's going to watch Cross Counter Live tonight? It'll be interesting to see how many viewers they get. Anyone want to take bets what the stream will cap out at ?

It's on too late for me, gotta wake up urley tomorrow.

I'll catch the recording if there is one.

zlatko · Aug 23, 2011

_dementia said:
It's on too late for me, gotta wake up urley tomorrow.

I'll catch the recording if there is one.

I'm sure they will archive it. It seems they are trying to invent a show similar to State of the Game or The Day 9 Daily from the SC2 scene. Those things get archived to blip.tv, and so we'll see where they put theirs up. I'm curious what they are going to do for an hour of time which I assume is how long this will run. State of the Game can rack upwards to 20K viewers and can run for several hours and go to like 1AM. Day9 dailies do about 5k-10K and are on 5 days of the week in the evening.

Gootecks and Mike Ross blowing it up super big.

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Speaking of buffs, give Guy his A2 walkspeed pls. kthx.

cHaotix8 · Aug 23, 2011

Corky said:
guaranteed chip wins aren't really that uncommon, *hugs seth u2*

Didn't they take that out in AE?

Corky · Aug 23, 2011

cHaotix8 said:
Didn't they take that out in AE?

No sure what changed, but sure even though its situational there are times where it is more or less impossible to get away.

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Corky said:
No sure what changed, but sure even though its situational there are times where it is more or less impossible to get away.

I think they got rid of the needlessly long invul.

Corky · Aug 23, 2011

_dementia said:
I think they got rid of the needlessly long invul.

`
ah well it still closes out rounds given the right setup.

Izuna · Aug 23, 2011

I forgot to include a different .PDF for printing. I forgot that printers see "Spreads" as A3 sheets. BTW, this one should be 300dpi so the quality will be better for printing.

README: I have fixed the spelling mistake of "PROVE/PROOVE" and have removed the Frame-Data pages, because they don't come out properly on paper.

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Kadey · Aug 23, 2011

Somewhere Ono is laughing at some of these changes. So far I don't see anything that will really things much. They some stuff away while adding others.

DjangoReinhardt · Aug 23, 2011

Changes seems reasonable enough to me thus far. Hard to have a strong opinion one way or the other until we see how all of the moving parts work together.

notworksafe · Aug 23, 2011

I'm pleased with Guile's changes. 3F air throw is so good.

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Where are you guys seeing the changes? Are they translated somewhere?
edit: derp, posted a few pages back

zlatko · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey said:
Somewhere Ono is laughing at some of these changes. So far I don't see anything that will really things much. They some stuff away while adding others.

Missing a few words in those sentences lol.

black_vegeta · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey wit dat early day drankin'

the_log_ride · Aug 23, 2011

Has capcom been known to throw extra changes/tweaks into the game without mentioning them beforehand in the blog postings?

Kadey · Aug 23, 2011

black_vegeta said:
Kadey wit dat early day drankin'

How do you know? LOL. I just fell outside. Ouch.

Going to stream PS3 Third Strike tonight. If anybody wants to play. But I'll be so drunk that random stuff will happen.

Rentahamster · Aug 23, 2011

Satyamdas said:
I think we're pretty much done for in SF4. :*(

We will overcome, my brothers, we will overcome.

Chavelo · Aug 23, 2011

Third Strike or Deus Ex...

GOOOOOD, WHYYYY

zlatko · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey said:
How do you know? LOL. I just fell outside. Ouch.

Going to stream PS3 Third Strike tonight. If anybody wants to play. But I'll be so drunk that random stuff will happen.

I'll probably tune into the stream though.

gutabo · Aug 23, 2011

the_log_ride said:
Has capcom been known to throw extra changes/tweaks into the game without mentioning them beforehand in the blog postings?

Of course. Frame/hitbox data, you name it, they have stealth changed it before.

Hey saty, how's the sim vs gouken matchup? Any tidbits you might wanna share?

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Chavelo said:
Third Strike or Deus Ex...

GOOOOOD, WHYYYY

both

cackhyena · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey said:
How do you know? LOL. I just fell outside. Ouch.

Going to stream PS3 Third Strike tonight. If anybody wants to play. But I'll be so drunk that random stuff will happen.

I'll prolly try to find you. Can't even remember if we're friends on PSN or not.

cackhyena · Aug 23, 2011

_dementia said:
both

Yep, I'm already a couple hours deep into HR. So fucking good.

Lost Fragment · Aug 23, 2011

Makoto to get +10 damage to her st.hp and a hit confirmable combo off of her cr.lk. Let's go.

Corky · Aug 23, 2011

Lost Fragment said:
Makoto to get +10 damage to her st.hp and a hit confirmable combo off of her cr.lk. Let's go.

lp lp c.lk xx ... doesn't work?

Degen · Aug 23, 2011

is Third Strike getting its own PSN chat, or will we just use the SSF4 one?

Fosh · Aug 23, 2011

Corky said:
lp lp c.lk xx ... doesn't work?

She has no hit confirms that start with low. Thats what he means.

biosnake20 · Aug 23, 2011

I wonder how much damage ryu will get now with a dp fadc u2. Its gotta be more now cuz of the better hitbox.

Lost Fragment · Aug 23, 2011

Corky said:
lp lp c.lk xx ... doesn't work?

Doesn't start with a low.

Corky · Aug 23, 2011

Lost Fragment said:
Doesn't start with a low.

ah gotcha

-Mikey- · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey said:
How do you know? LOL. I just fell outside. Ouch.

Going to stream PS3 Third Strike tonight. If anybody wants to play. But I'll be so drunk that random stuff will happen.

My day 1 Urien will wreck shit! Untill CC Live, need my GOOTECKS!!

Cloudius12 · Aug 23, 2011

Degen said:
is Third Strike getting its own PSN chat, or will we just use the SSF4 one?

Qistoptier made a chat and was inviting ppl in the OT for 3SO

XenoRaven · Aug 23, 2011

Double post. Thanks phone.

XenoRaven · Aug 23, 2011

Lost Fragment said:
Doesn't start with a low.

Is cr LK xx LP Hayate unsafe on block?

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

XenoRaven said:
Is cr LK xx LP Hayate unsafe on block?

It's like -8 on block I think

Lost Fragment · Aug 23, 2011

lp hayate is like -8 on block.

cr.lk does link into f.lp, but it's an unplinkable 1-frame link that cancels into a move that's -8.

Anyway, I'm just messing around with those changes. She doesn't need that shit. The only change I'd for sure make to her is to nerf ex hayate a little bit. That move is too good.

Fosh · Aug 23, 2011

XenoRaven said:
Is cr LK xx LP Hayate unsafe?

its 0 on hit but that is still not a hit confirm

XenoRaven · Aug 23, 2011

I should probably look into frame data more. If I blocked a Hayate I'd probably be like "yep better keep blocking."

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

XenoRaven said:
I should probably look into frame data more. If I blocked a Hayate I'd probably be like "yep better keep blocking."

Reversal super that ish. Keep 'em honest.

Lost Fragment · Aug 23, 2011

The only one that's not super unsafe is ex, and that one's -4 so it's still punishable.

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Lost Fragment said:
The only one that's not super unsafe is ex, and that one's -4 so it's still punishable.

apparently lvl 5 HP Hayate is just -2

but even if Chun lets you charge it all the way on her and blocks, reversal MK super still works

Fraeon · Aug 23, 2011

Three versions ago, I might've said cursed Chun's stomps. Why make them easier now, though? Makes no damn sense.

sixteen-bit · Aug 23, 2011

Fraeon said:
Three revisions ago, I might've said cursed Chun's stomps. Why make them easier now, though? Makes no damn sense.

everyone wants to be Poongko

Fraeon · Aug 23, 2011

_dementia said:
everyone wants to be Poongko

With Chun?

Lost Fragment · Aug 23, 2011

This is what I think of every time Black Vegeta signs on to XBL

stabicron7 · Aug 23, 2011

Kadey said:
Somewhere Ono is laughing at some of these changes. So far I don't see anything that will really things much. They some stuff away while adding others.

They haven't gotten to the twins yet, there is still time for Capcom to screw something up majorly.

the_log_ride · Aug 23, 2011

stabicron7 said:
They haven't gotten to the twins yet, there is still time for Capcom to screw something up majorly.

Fei Long:
cr.mp and cr.MK special cancelable
restore HK Chickenwing Invinc.

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