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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT3| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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MiniBossBattle
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Hitokage said:
<--- 500 pp for life.
black_vegeta
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Conceited said:
"why is America so quiet?"
He sounds like a bitch. He needs to put some bass in voice.
He also flinched when FChamp gave him the finger.
*jumps off the JS trolley, jumps back on the Eduardo train*
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
I've been wondering lately if maybe armor break on ex hayate is actually a bad thing.
When someone tries to focus bait Makoto from full screen, they're giving you an opportunity to get inside. Right now when people focus bait form full screen, I try to time ex hayate so it hits their backdash when they cancel out of it and after looking over a bunch of replays recently, I was surprised with how often that actually works. Yeah, they could just let the lvl 3 rip and hit me when I'm trying to hit their backdash, but if I don't use ex hayate to catch their backdash I can punish the FA whiff with it instead.
In AE, people just aren't gonna focus bait from that range out of fear of ex hayate. So I'm not sure if not having that opportunity at all is worth it. Or maybe I'm crazy.
When someone tries to focus bait Makoto from full screen, they're giving you an opportunity to get inside. Right now when people focus bait form full screen, I try to time ex hayate so it hits their backdash when they cancel out of it and after looking over a bunch of replays recently, I was surprised with how often that actually works. Yeah, they could just let the lvl 3 rip and hit me when I'm trying to hit their backdash, but if I don't use ex hayate to catch their backdash I can punish the FA whiff with it instead.
In AE, people just aren't gonna focus bait from that range out of fear of ex hayate. So I'm not sure if not having that opportunity at all is worth it. Or maybe I'm crazy.
sixteen-bit
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I think he does. In the episode they filmed of Cross Counter at his place was the first time they trolled PSN.hitsugi said:
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
i still think HK. Tsurugi should've gain break property instead of EX hayateLost Fragment said:
I can see EX Hayate punishing close/mid range FA's too, since it suppose to be a bit faster now, i just hate the fact that i have to burn meter.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
Hitokage said:
True enough. Armor break on ex hayate probably is a good thing because it's gonna be easier for her to get inside in general anyway.
SephirothRK
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_dementia said:
http://shoryuken.com/f251/google-pa...s-fuerte-2-0-a-230889/index2.html#post8666551
I think it's a couple of players, but hard to make out from PR Rog post.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
a few "wa75842" plays here
http://zoome.jp/sf4_esaka_navel/diary/127
http://zoome.jp/sf4_esaka_navel/diary/128
the Makoto with the highest BP in Japan. And others too
http://zoome.jp/sf4_esaka_navel/diary/127
http://zoome.jp/sf4_esaka_navel/diary/128
the Makoto with the highest BP in Japan. And others too
prodystopian
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XenoRaven said:
I had no idea about this. Still hard to get, but I like this better than the slide. I just need to work on it some more.
Oh and I did end up picking up the Evo Monitor. I'll post up when it gets here, probably not until next week.
"God's Beard!"
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FUCK YOU GUYS I WON A SLOT FOR THE MARVEL CONTEST
sixteen-bit
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Congrats dude! Will (can?) you show us the entry?God's Beard said:
"God's Beard!"
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_dementia said:
I wanna see if they put it up on C-U first. I'm so excited.
FindMyFarms
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Good stuff GB! *thumbs up*
DryEyeRelief
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there was a marvel contest?
congrats
http://www.capcom.co.jp/blog/sf4/development_blog/2011/01/25_3024.html
KEN
About hitbox improvements and new combos
-cl.LP hitbox is extended foward, making it easier to use, easier to confirm combos
-For example, with the new 7F cr.HK, cr.LK → cl.LP → st.LP or cl.LP → cr.HK (144 damage 210 stun) is now possible
-Depending on the character, cr.LK → cl.LP → st.MP → cr.HK (176 damage 250 stun) is also possible.
cl.LP in Super
cl.LP in AE
VEGA
About Cosmic Heel's properties
-The block stun on Cosmic Heel is decreased
-The move is still 14F start-up, 5F active as before, but is now -4 when blocked point-blank, +0 when blocked at the tip (down from -1/+3)
-To prevent counters, be aware of the range and hit with the tip
If used from about this distance...
even if it's blocked...
you're fine!
RUFUS
About Big Bang Typhoon (UC2)
-UC2 has different properties
-Damage is now 47 + 21x11 + 23x5 + 27 = 420 (down from 450)
-Mid-air opponents are knocked away when hit, so don't expect any damage
-Since the move is projectile-invincible and has a large vacuum range, try using it as anti-ground
Damage in Super
Damage in AE
FEI LONG
About EX Rekkaken
-EX Rekka's recovery is modified, with the hit and block advantage greatly changed
-1st hit: +2 on hit, +0 on block (improved from -4/-8)
-2nd hit: +0 on hit, -1 on block (improved from -6/-10)
-3rd hit: Down on hit, -23 on block
-Even when the 2nd hit is blocked, Fei is not at a large disadvantage, so we recommend using up to the 2nd hit as much as you like
-Also, because EX Rekka has the same projectile properties as Hadoken, be aware that it won't hit opponents using projectile-invincible moves.
EX Rekka and Hadoken negating each other
JURI
About Juri's hitboxes and hurtbox
-Numerous hitbox and hurtbox changes have been introduced
-st.LP's hitbox is extended forward, and the hurtbox from the elbow to tip has been cut
-cr.LP's hurtbox, which used to reach to the wrist, now is cut down to the elbow
-Since both move's hurtboxes are smaller, they're less likely to be stuffed compared to before
-As for specials, the hurtbox on Kasatsushi (Counter) armor from startup until 3F after has been reduced
st.LP's hitbox
cr.LP's hitbox
DHALSIM
About damage changes
-Many normals have modified damage
- j.HP now does 80 (down from 85), B+HP is 60+50 (down from 70+50)
-j.HP → B+HP → LP Yoga Flame now does 228 damage, 320 stun (damage down from 243)
-B+HK is 90 (down from 110), B+LK is now 30 (down from 40)
-Though his damage is lowered, other than the startup changes mentioned in the last blog (cr.MP and EX Yoga Flame), Dhalsim's moves are the same as they were in Super
The above combo's damage in Super
The above combo in AE
-Though there's no changes in priority from Super, below is the hitbox for B+HK, frequently used as an anti-air. Dhalsim is invincible around the head area, so keep that mind
B+HK
Next week is Chun-Li, El Fuerte, Sakura, Cody, Guile, and M.Bison.
KEN
About hitbox improvements and new combos
-cl.LP hitbox is extended foward, making it easier to use, easier to confirm combos
-For example, with the new 7F cr.HK, cr.LK → cl.LP → st.LP or cl.LP → cr.HK (144 damage 210 stun) is now possible
-Depending on the character, cr.LK → cl.LP → st.MP → cr.HK (176 damage 250 stun) is also possible.
cl.LP in Super
cl.LP in AE
VEGA
About Cosmic Heel's properties
-The block stun on Cosmic Heel is decreased
-The move is still 14F start-up, 5F active as before, but is now -4 when blocked point-blank, +0 when blocked at the tip (down from -1/+3)
-To prevent counters, be aware of the range and hit with the tip
If used from about this distance...
even if it's blocked...
you're fine!
RUFUS
About Big Bang Typhoon (UC2)
-UC2 has different properties
-Damage is now 47 + 21x11 + 23x5 + 27 = 420 (down from 450)
-Mid-air opponents are knocked away when hit, so don't expect any damage
-Since the move is projectile-invincible and has a large vacuum range, try using it as anti-ground
Damage in Super
Damage in AE
FEI LONG
About EX Rekkaken
-EX Rekka's recovery is modified, with the hit and block advantage greatly changed
-1st hit: +2 on hit, +0 on block (improved from -4/-8)
-2nd hit: +0 on hit, -1 on block (improved from -6/-10)
-3rd hit: Down on hit, -23 on block
-Even when the 2nd hit is blocked, Fei is not at a large disadvantage, so we recommend using up to the 2nd hit as much as you like
-Also, because EX Rekka has the same projectile properties as Hadoken, be aware that it won't hit opponents using projectile-invincible moves.
EX Rekka and Hadoken negating each other
JURI
About Juri's hitboxes and hurtbox
-Numerous hitbox and hurtbox changes have been introduced
-st.LP's hitbox is extended forward, and the hurtbox from the elbow to tip has been cut
-cr.LP's hurtbox, which used to reach to the wrist, now is cut down to the elbow
-Since both move's hurtboxes are smaller, they're less likely to be stuffed compared to before
-As for specials, the hurtbox on Kasatsushi (Counter) armor from startup until 3F after has been reduced
st.LP's hitbox
cr.LP's hitbox
DHALSIM
About damage changes
-Many normals have modified damage
- j.HP now does 80 (down from 85), B+HP is 60+50 (down from 70+50)
-j.HP → B+HP → LP Yoga Flame now does 228 damage, 320 stun (damage down from 243)
-B+HK is 90 (down from 110), B+LK is now 30 (down from 40)
-Though his damage is lowered, other than the startup changes mentioned in the last blog (cr.MP and EX Yoga Flame), Dhalsim's moves are the same as they were in Super
The above combo's damage in Super
The above combo in AE
-Though there's no changes in priority from Super, below is the hitbox for B+HK, frequently used as an anti-air. Dhalsim is invincible around the head area, so keep that mind
B+HK
Next week is Chun-Li, El Fuerte, Sakura, Cody, Guile, and M.Bison.
Cloudius12
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that bit with Fei is interesting.
Thanks for the translations.
Thanks for the translations.
sixteen-bit
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Ken combos to sweep from close stand jab.
(props USD)
(props USD)
Counter hit EX Rekka combos? My penis is already erect. Assuming all the damage is the same as it is in Super:
CH EX Rekka (first hit) → cl.HP → HK Flame Kick (309 damage 423 stun)
CH EX Rekka (first hit) → cl.HP → HP Rekka (three hits) (307 damage 368 stun)
The first combo has your average opponent almost half-stunned. The second combo is guaranteed to push your opponent 3/5 of the stage.
You could also use MK Flame Kick in the first combo, and go for FADC HK Chicken Wing, but that's a lot of meter to burn.
CH EX Rekka (first hit) → cl.HP → HK Flame Kick (309 damage 423 stun)
CH EX Rekka (first hit) → cl.HP → HP Rekka (three hits) (307 damage 368 stun)
The first combo has your average opponent almost half-stunned. The second combo is guaranteed to push your opponent 3/5 of the stage.
You could also use MK Flame Kick in the first combo, and go for FADC HK Chicken Wing, but that's a lot of meter to burn.
Somewhat Damaged
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very minor difference, but you can see his head was more vulnerable in super
BotoxAgent
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Conceited said:
Good shit champ!! XD
Somewhat Damaged
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ahh, makes sense. my apologiesUSD said:
dragonballjoseph
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hitsugi said:
I do. >_>
<---Top 15 or so in people who get their PP legitimately in North America.
SUPARSTARX
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Got home from Chinatown Fair. Evil Ryu's mad overrated.
it buggs me because a month ago when i actually put a little effort into ranked, i got to (almost) 4K rather easily. Then the great drop.
And now i can't reach my former peak, I can't even get anywhere close for some reason, despite the fact that I went on massive losing streaks against far better players than me trying to get better, "learning the game" if you will. I thought i learned a thing or two, but then i just start losing against any and everyone lately, it's just rather jarring.
That's the explanation though, i'm pretty much over it already (for now)
on a related note though...there has been an increase in the number of people saying i should drop deejay...
feelsbadman
And now i can't reach my former peak, I can't even get anywhere close for some reason, despite the fact that I went on massive losing streaks against far better players than me trying to get better, "learning the game" if you will. I thought i learned a thing or two, but then i just start losing against any and everyone lately, it's just rather jarring.
That's the explanation though, i'm pretty much over it already (for now)
on a related note though...there has been an increase in the number of people saying i should drop deejay...
feelsbadman
sixteen-bit
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It's all about the Jedah army
Dat purp.
Dat purp.
Cloudius12
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:lol god damn
sixteen-bit
Member
ROFLSatyamdas said:
where did you find this?
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