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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT3| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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iAmMaximus
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Anyone else going to Evo? I'm in need of a roommate!
Axis said:
That's probably a good rog, luckily I'm terrible so I'm losing to day 1 yuns who do nothing but divekick and somehow I'm soo terrible that I can't even retaliate ( again I don't even really play rog anymore I switched to yang after 1 day of AE being out ).
Rocky_Balboa
Member
Satyamdas said:
After seeing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vx48kvPssE#t=21m30s
I totally understand.
Axis
Member
Corky said:
the range and active frames on rogs c.fp can keep them out of the air if they try to dive from too far away(sans delayed divekick but it'd have to be ridiculously delayed)...if they're closer you can stand jab or c.mp that shit for fray...even if it trades you're not left in a bad position cuz rog has more total health. i'm not a rog main just random stuff that i've seen work against the twins since they're assholes...but fair enough that you don't play rog anymore cuz fuck rog
Axis said:the range and active frames on rogs c.fp can keep them out of the air if they try to dive from too far away(sans delayed divekick but it'd have to be ridiculously delayed)...if they're closer you can stand jab or c.mp that shit for fray...even if it trades you're not left in a bad position cuz rog has more total health. i'm not a rog main just random stuff that i've seen work against the twins since they're assholes...but fair enough that you don't play rog anymore cuz fuck rog
Maybe the theory behind it doesn't really match my reality when playing. What has happened for me the few times I've played rog in AE against yun :
- start slow and patiently'
- they go balls to the walls and play aggressively
- I try to c.fp the first divekick -> they counter hit me - > it's over ( if they're good otherwise just repeat from start and win with divekick damage )
Which is odd since I don't have any problems with rufus for example or the mix-ups from a good ibuki. Nonetheless I'm bordering on whining here so here's hoping SF5 comes out sooner than later. SFxT looks interesting but has the SF4 alpha stiff animations ( which I somehow fear will be in the finished products ) before they overhauled it.
Axis
Member
Corky said:
discussion is good...if they're playing aggressively then use it against them; the theory behind it is fine and it works in execution...just takes some time, i guess. i was lucky to play a good yun the first day explicitly for the purpose of figuring this shit out lol
Yeah same here, I had a solid Yun and Yang player here in the TWFighter community to practice with last weekend - spent some hours basically learning the match-up with my mains (getting beasted onAxis said:
) and learning what moves can cancel out the dive kick pressure, learning the spacing and so on. The match-up will always be in their favour of course, and some of the advantages they have are ridiculous, but it by no means felt impossible... It's just an uphill struggle (assuming the opponent is at your level, and it gets progressively harder the better they are compared to you depending on the match-up); but i'm pretty confident that it's not a case of someone not that good (or as good as you) simply being able to pick Yun/Yang and beat up on you (at least not offline) - people doing that will get exposed.
the_log_ride
Member
Satyamdas said:
After GAF Ranbats 2, I'm gonna take a long break. I just can't find a rhythm or flow ever since AE dropped. 'Not having much luck finding a 2ndary or a new main, either.
Satyamdas said:
Looking forward to SFxT as well. 'Hope that Sim gets a spot on the roster.
sixteen-bit
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I don't think Sim will make it int to SFxTK. Not the first release of that game anyway. Sim seemingly only works well in a game with SF pacing.
sixteen-bit
Member
Hahaha, I suppose that's true. I once saw some Japanese footage of a Sim player running trains on fools. I don't think he'd be viable in high level play though.Solune said:
Kanu's a really impressive Dhalsim/Hulk/Bison player, although there's only a couple videos of him out there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-r1G-iPvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x-r1G-iPvY
Ogrekiller
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The Int3rsect said:
I might be.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
LMAON4Us said:
Haters gonna Hate sim
sixteen-bit
Member
Is there any reason why the AE DLC is 2.5 times bigger on PS3 than on 360?
Professor Beef
Banned
It's so you can fit the extra salt._dementia said:
CriterionDog
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Hey GAF, I keep on hearing that AE is unbalanced (at least Yun and Yang are, I hear). Is it really? I'm thinking about picking it up.
sixteen-bit
Member
It's less balanced than SSFIV, but yeah buy it. Also, pick Yun.CriterionDog said:
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Just had a first to 10 with Rocky Balboa.
He sent me a message before hand saying he was having a bad day so I let him beat me 10-1.
God that was free.
He sent me a message before hand saying he was having a bad day so I let him beat me 10-1.
God that was free.
CriterionDog
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Thanks GAF, I think I will pick it up. : D Gonna look more into it.
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
Played nearly 4 hours of AE last night, after hardly putting any time into SSF4 at all.
Took some adjustment time, but ended up having a lot of fun...and doing quite well. Played Ken exclusively and got nearly 1700PP/1700BP from one evening. I don't know if that's good or not, lol
But more importantly was the match quality. I'm thinking SSF4: Arcade Edition - The Online Warrior could definitely be on the horizon. Working out the concept if it's at all possible with the current schedule tho...
Took some adjustment time, but ended up having a lot of fun...and doing quite well. Played Ken exclusively and got nearly 1700PP/1700BP from one evening. I don't know if that's good or not, lol
But more importantly was the match quality. I'm thinking SSF4: Arcade Edition - The Online Warrior could definitely be on the horizon. Working out the concept if it's at all possible with the current schedule tho...
CriterionDog
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I wonder if Capcom would really release another DLC after AE. Heck, couldn't all the DLC be packed together and call it Street Fighter V?
Satyamdas said:
I always play characters I like playing. I never go for tiers when I play a fighting game (well, maybe I should?). Ryu's never a high tier in ssf4 games but I enjoy playing him and even now in AE, I have fun playing him. Guile in most games isn't considered that high tier also but I enjoy playing him. And it's not like they just nerf 1 specific characters either. It's kinda across the board so chances are your opponent is just as nerfed. But what do I know. I am not a fighting game god
edit: I know you are not a tier whore (Sim isn't top, right?), play it for the fun I guess...but yea if you get beat due to bad game mechanics, understandable
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Has anyone seen any good Oni gameplay footage out there? I saw one good japanese oni from an arcade linked here a day or two before US release and I've seen some combo videos, including desk's, but I've had trouble finding solid Oni in matches.
Aside from Mike Ross, of course
Rocky_Balboa
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GGs.Heavy's Sandvich said:
I know Rog vs Rog match up pretty well, so I think you could have done better with some other characters. Especially character with a good focus attack. Let's do it again some day.
Also I played against a 3000PP Yun today in Endless and I think I have the match up down. It is about zoning correctly and keeping him the fuck out so he can't start those infinite block strings. Although at some point I got good results by being pretty aggressive. So I guess it has to be a mixture of things sometimes.
Professor Beef
Banned
I feel fucking PUMPED right now. I got hate mail earlier against some Ken player on PSN (bestnrenonv), calling me a "turtle fa****." So I call him free, and challenge him to a FT5 to shut him up.
He accepts, and beats me with his Ken game 1. I then run it back and beat him 5 games in a row, including his Akuma that he switched to after losing with Ken twice.
I sent him a GG message afterwards, including telling him to stop jumping in on Hawk that has U2 stocked, and I haven't heard a reply since.
EDIT: Just got his reply: "you should stop turtle all together, again that all u have beside you jab combo"
He accepts, and beats me with his Ken game 1. I then run it back and beat him 5 games in a row, including his Akuma that he switched to after losing with Ken twice.
I sent him a GG message afterwards, including telling him to stop jumping in on Hawk that has U2 stocked, and I haven't heard a reply since.
EDIT: Just got his reply: "you should stop turtle all together, again that all u have beside you jab combo"
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Rocky_Balboa said:
I had no chance. Just really need the practice in order to punish the things you were doing.
Really surprised at how well the netcode really was. I had a couple of times when I need an overhead to come out but I'm sure the same thing happened to you as well.
There's no shortcuts to getting good, I just need to play more.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
OT, but I know there are people in here who stopped playing MK because of the netcode and holy fuck, the patch improved the netcode like 100x.
the_log_ride
Member
LeMaximilian said:
Oh yes, please!
LeMaximilian
Alligator F*ck House
eva01 said:
I was still using it as the primary poke, so I'm not too sure as it's been a hella long time since I played extensively. I did have some questionable stuff happen while playing online, but that's pretty much normal at this point.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Max, make those Ken videos already.
Watching yours back in the day made me fall back in love with Kenneth.
Get it done.
Watching yours back in the day made me fall back in love with Kenneth.
Get it done.
"God's Beard!"
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Sim best be in sfxt because ive already decided on my team of Dhalsim/Twelve, guaranteed the best team in the game. I'm just excited for another game with my boy twelve again
Fuck Mike Ross, I'm the best Oni. I won't save my matches though
I'll tell you what i told saty. the #1 combo every oni needs to know is clk, clp, lp, fp xx hk tatsu. ill let you figure out why on your own, but its absolutely central to his game unless you play like a maniac like mike ross.
Procarbine said:
Fuck Mike Ross, I'm the best Oni. I won't save my matches though
I'll tell you what i told saty. the #1 combo every oni needs to know is clk, clp, lp, fp xx hk tatsu. ill let you figure out why on your own, but its absolutely central to his game unless you play like a maniac like mike ross.
the_log_ride
Member
If both Sim and Twelve make it, I'll give that team a try, too. Just, please, improve Twelve's normals.
sixteen-bit
Member
Oh man, Max Ken videos would be most welcome.
And I damn well expect them for 3S:OE!
And I damn well expect them for 3S:OE!
Professor Beef
Banned
The best Oni on 360, maybe. ;3God's Beard said:Fuck Mike Ross, I'm the best Oni. I won't save my matches though
"God's Beard!"
Member
other than fierces insanely slow startup and rh being punishable on hit, twelve has good normals for a game with no parries, especially a game with chain combos. thats why twelve is in sfxt, ono is using him as a proof of concept for a new darkstalkers, with his crazy animations and jedah-esque game plan.
im more worried that seth said fireball tag might be too powerful, and that it is removed in the current build. it cant be that much better than tatsu tag, right? if it stays out i might have to use a character with slow lows like cammy or guile with twelve instead of a slow fireball. im also interested in the special moves they give to the tekken characters.
edit:im on ps3 beef
im more worried that seth said fireball tag might be too powerful, and that it is removed in the current build. it cant be that much better than tatsu tag, right? if it stays out i might have to use a character with slow lows like cammy or guile with twelve instead of a slow fireball. im also interested in the special moves they give to the tekken characters.
edit:im on ps3 beef
Infiltration vs Choi is live now on youtube. This was the only match not broadcasted live because the internet went down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3aofq8iGrc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3aofq8iGrc
"God's Beard!"
Member
hmm... apparently rico suave knows a slightly worse version of my oni vortex.
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
God's Beard said:Fuck Mike Ross, I'm the best Oni. I won't save my matches though
I'll tell you what i told saty. the #1 combo every oni needs to know is clk, clp, lp, fp xx hk tatsu. ill let you figure out why on your own, but its absolutely central to his game unless you play like a maniac like mike ross.
I've been linking into lk fist slash and mixing up from there, I also like it more because I suck and drop combos and lk fist slash is safe on block. I like it because you can fadc and extend the combo as well, but I haven't looked into the hk tatsu, which I'll do. The stun you can get out of the fist slash stuff is awesome.
I like linking to c.fp because it stands up, but the range is so bad. I need to play this game more often to be able to use the proper combo after hit confirming, because I was whiffing stand fierce all the time on crouching targets >.<
The rest of my game is based on super demon shenanigans because I love them so much. I choked when I played haunts on his stream though, so hard, so very hard...
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