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Super Street Fighter 4 |OT3| BACK OF THE BUS, SAGAT!
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BotoxAgent
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KidA Seven
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BotoxAgent said:
I say "God Damn."
sixteen-bit
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What a boss.BotoxAgent said:
Daigo just knows those DPs will land, he don't scare on wakeup. No way to FADC those with Yun.
edit: also love how he doesn't whip out the command grab until final round.
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
and he's Red YunBotoxAgent said:
DryEyeRelief
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quick someone make a "rare footage of daigo" joke
black_vegeta
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Loving dat red color outfit.
Edit: Rare footage of Daigo mad.
*slaps knee*
DryEyeRelief said:
Edit: Rare footage of Daigo mad.
*slaps knee*
sonicspear64
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My friend talked to guys at the old Gameworks in Easton Mall in Columbus (operating under a new name and management since last spring) about getting AE since they have vanilla machines still. They said they'd definitely consider it and I hope they do. I'm pretty sure that players in the surrounding midwest area would make the trek at least once to play. Not to mention all the communities we have in Ohio would come as well.
Daigo's Yun is very on point. I'd like to see more footage of it though just to see the difference between him and Marn. Right now I think the best Yun I've gotten to see a lot of footage of is Marn for sure. Jwong's Yang also got really good the last time I saw videos of it.
I can't wait for the first big AE tournament that Daigo attends.
I can't wait for the first big AE tournament that Daigo attends.
KidA Seven
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zlatko said:Daigo's Yun is very on point. I'd like to see more footage of it though just to see the difference between him and Marn. Right now I think the best Yun I've gotten to see a lot of footage of is Marn for sure. Jwong's Yang also got really good the last time I saw videos of it.
I can't wait for the first big AE tournament that Daigo attends.
His Yun might seem better because of the quality of players he's playing. Daigo's Yun went against every top player in Japan minus Momochi and came out the victor in every one except for the Mago 5-5 tie.
Infinite Justice
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*wild Daigo spotted*
*throws videocaptureball*
*capture sucessfull*
*throws videocaptureball*
*capture sucessfull*
KidA Seven
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Infinite Justice said:
Now go make that fight money at EVO.
Wait, did we just decribe Markman's journey? :lol
Lost Fragment
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zlatko said:
I think you misunderstand the question. Unless you're saying that characters that are higher tier always beat characters that are much lower on the list, in which case you misunderstand how tier lists work.
Makoto and Abel are pretty much the same character, but Makoto's so much lower than Abel because she doesn't have the mobility and ways around fireballs that Abel does. These things aren't incredibly relevant when she's fighting Abel. Her lack of decent GTFO moves is relevant since Abel's a mixup character that can be very dangerous once he gets going, but turn the situation around and Abel has the same problem in this match.
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edit: Speaking of tier lists, just peeped this at SRK. Not sure how seriously this should be taken though since it's just from a JP message board.
edit 2: Oh it's based on BP hurrr. I should probably read stuff more carefully before posting it.
S　　Yun
AAA　Dictator、Ken、Sagat、Feilong
AA　 Viper、Akuma
A　　Abel、Blanka、Ryu
BBB　Makoto、Boxer、Rufus、Cody、Ibuki
BB　 Sakura、Zangi、Guile、Chunli
B　　Dhalsim、Yang、Cammy、Claw、Juri、Adon
CCC　Honda、Thawk、Dudley
CC Guy、Rose、ＤＪ
C El Fuerte、Seth
D　　Gen、Gouken
E　　Hakan、Dan
http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/51604/1294264689/
the_log_ride
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BotoxAgent said:
Daddy like.
So I picked up Dhalsim after playing only with T.Hawk and proceeded to lose half of my pp. Now I'm starting to win again.
Actually Dhalsim is a pretty fun character to play as. Maybe it's because there doesn't seem to be any machups that are as bad for Dhalsim as Blanka and Honda seem be for my T.Hawk.
Actually Dhalsim is a pretty fun character to play as. Maybe it's because there doesn't seem to be any machups that are as bad for Dhalsim as Blanka and Honda seem be for my T.Hawk.
~Devil Trigger~
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Lost Fragment said:
I told my friend this a while back, but i think thats why i gravitated towards Abel in Vanilla. Its the case in most fighting games i play
Lost Fragment
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Pepto said:So I picked up Dhalsim after playing only with T.Hawk and proceeded to lose half of my pp. Now I'm starting to win again.
Actually Dhalsim is a pretty fun character to play as. Maybe it's because there doesn't seem to be any machups that are as bad for Dhalsim as Blanka and Honda seem be for my T.Hawk.
I've been playing Dhalsim lately too. I think I'm having so much fun with him because I like to troll people.
Well Abel GTFO move is EX tornado throw, but its crazy risky because of its long recovery and it is beaten by throws. He also has EX roll, but that also gets beat by throws. Makoto really doesn't have anything. EX karakusa maybe?Lost Fragment said:
Makoto does have some advantages though, she stuns better, can redirect in the air, and I think her overhead is better.
DryEyeRelief
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Lost Fragment said:
To put it in perspective, I think there are like 4-5 yun players in the top 10 BP scores.
sixteen-bit
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Wow, that's better than Sagat in Vanilla arcade, right?DryEyeRelief said:
the_log_ride
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Pepto said:So I picked up Dhalsim after playing only with T.Hawk and proceeded to lose half of my pp. Now I'm starting to win again.
Actually Dhalsim is a pretty fun character to play as. Maybe it's because there doesn't seem to be any machups that are as bad for Dhalsim as Blanka and Honda seem be for my T.Hawk.
Glad to see you enjoying. But just know there are other matchups that'll make you want to punch the elderly.
Lost Fragment said:
Funny, because I've been dabbling with Makoto on the side :lol
Teknopathetic
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"45,000 BP? Get the fuck outta here."
BP is gained at a totally different rate in Arcade compared to the home editions.
BP is gained at a totally different rate in Arcade compared to the home editions.
KidA Seven
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I was watching a montage of Daigo on Nico in search of his yun the other day, and I noticed that he played Tomo before and it shows him beating him.
Maybe it's a different tomo though.
Maybe it's a different tomo though.
Teknopathetic
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"I was watching a montage of Daigo on Nico in search of his yun the other day, and I noticed that he played Tomo before and it shows him beating him.
Maybe it's a different tomo though."
IIRC, he stopped playing well before anyone in the US had even heard of Daigo.
Maybe it's a different tomo though."
IIRC, he stopped playing well before anyone in the US had even heard of Daigo.
Spirit of Jazz
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LakeEarth said:
I'd argue that only the ex-orochi is better than Abel's cl.hk overhead, Abel has more health, a higher damage output, and more ambiguous mix-ups which I'm inclined to say would give him an advantage in this kind of match.
I don't really have any match-up experience against good though so I can't argue the finger points. I'd be interested to know if her back-dash/teleport beats his sweep or dash lp tornado throw option selects. I'd also wager that she has much better footsies (at least in regards to priority) with the threat of having to hover as step-kick range.
BotoxAgent
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-PXG- said:
I'm more blown away by his win/loss ratio, holy shit :lol
sixteen-bit
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That, and well, that Tomo lives in the US!Teknopathetic said:
sixteen-bit
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Yun being S... does that mean he doesn't have disadvantageous match-ups? Sagat was S and all his match-ups were advantageous or even (lol mirror matches)
I thought Boxer was supposed to be a twin counterpick
I thought Boxer was supposed to be a twin counterpick
BotoxAgent
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I thought they said Gief was a nightmare for Yun
Teknopathetic
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According to the post, that "tier list" is only based on BP, not on matchups. Basically, "there's a shit ton of high ranking Yuns."
Lost Fragment
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LakeEarth said:
Tsuguri limits Abel's options on wakeup to block or roll, and she recovers sooner than he will from roll so she can keep in his face. Karakusa beats block and roll, and she can option select roll with ex karakusa too.
Rice-Eater
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Conceited said:
I've been wondering the same thing. He sounds like a Vietnamese-American(or some other Western country) who has been living in Japan. Would be nice to know if one of our own was over there kicking ass.
Lost Fragment
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There's an American player over there named AmeriKen. Maybe him?
"God's Beard!"
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entrement said:
He isn't doing anything vastly different than the other Yun players we've seen, but it's obvious that his fundamentals are much much better.
His reaction time versus that Sagat was on point, and he's still got the umeshoryu.
sixteen-bit
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I believe he'll still play Ryu in Super (console) tournaments.entrement said:
So now that Makoto is good again I might actually be able to play this game at a semi-not-really-but-still-scrub level and not at the rock bottom..
How is SSF4 online on 360? I remember being very frustrated with all the "connection timeout" bullshit that was going on the PS3, I also only got like three games every time I refreshed the open games list or whatever.
How is SSF4 online on 360? I remember being very frustrated with all the "connection timeout" bullshit that was going on the PS3, I also only got like three games every time I refreshed the open games list or whatever.
Tokido was right, I could definitely see daigo eating a wake up ultra once in a while given how aggressive he is. But holy shit.BotoxAgent said:
I wonder why Japan thinks Yun is better than Yang and it's backwards in the US.
Lost Fragment said:
still no love for new and improved Gouken or Gen for for that matter. I haven't seen any bullcat or desora AE matches in a while.
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