Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)

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Why would he dump money into states where he isn't likely to win? I'm not sure why you guys think you are campaign-running experts. He is clearly doing much better than anyone expected.

He didn't need to invest a ton of money, but every delegate counts, and he could've at least tried a little harder to get more votes down there.
 
Yeah, I don't think he will win them in the end. My tentative expectation is that Sanders wins only Vermont tonight, in which case I would hope he would drop out, although there's a reasonable chance he still doesn't.

He's already committed to staying in until all 50 States vote
 
Im a big critic of Clinton on this board but no...

Clinton is maybe center or slightly center right.

Rubio is extremely far right.

Clinton is not anti poor, she is just "pro every body" in a way that favors the rich.

Rubio is clearly anti poor and extremely pro rich.

Im not sure if you are criticizing Clinton unfairly or giving rubio too much credit

Economically and socially, Trump is less eXtreme than rubio. Rubio as a moderate is a myth by the gop establishment and media. He is hard right blatant corporate big oil lapdog sellout.
I know you're saying Clinton is more liberal than Rubio, but I still can't get my head around what metrics you use to call Clinton center or center right. Cause all the *metrics*
have her as a fairly liberal Democrat.
 
He's already committed to staying in until all 50 States vote

We already talked about this. Nobody is ever going to say "yup, if we do badly next week we'll just quit."

People say all kinds of things they don't mean when their goal is to inspire the troops. Especially politicians!
 
When will the first results come in?
 
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We already talked about this. Nobody is ever going to say "yup, if we do badly next week we'll just quit."

People say all kinds of things they don't mean when their goal is to inspire the troops. Especially politicians!
Fiorina said she was going all the way to the convention.
 
We already talked about this. Nobody is ever going to say "yup, if we do badly next week we'll just quit."

People say all kinds of things they don't mean when their goal is to inspire the troops. Especially politicians!

Yep. *Everyone* says this. Just like Sanders won't tell you what his backup health care plan is if he can't deliver on single payer health care.
 
Hope Bernie puts hillary on blast at the next debate, get those speeches released

Glad we reached our fundraising goal last night
 
That's because you're used to bought politicians with no integrity

Sorry I don't put Bernie on a pedestal, man. When he acts like every other politician I tend to think it's because he's a politician. I understand that would challenge your image of him.
 
I know you're saying Clinton is more liberal than Rubio, but I still can't get my head around what metrics you use to call Clinton center or center right. Cause all the *metrics*
have her as a fairly liberal Democrat.

I should clarify. Only on economic policy and not regarding what is mainstream in DC but what the average American believes.

Economically she falls around the middle of Americans views. Hence center.

Polls show that issue by issue Americans are to the left of what DC actually does.
 
He didn't need to invest a ton of money, but every delegate counts, and he could've at least tried a little harder to get more votes down there.

I feel like even if he tried "a little harder" you'd still be here saying he "could have tried harder." What a subjective measurement. It's clearly a strategic decision on his campaigns part. If he gets these states where it's close, they'd rather have the narrative of winning a state versus fighting for a few percentage points in already-lost states.
 
That's because you're used to bought politicians with no integrity

You know we're talking about the dude who joined the establishment he hates so much just because it was the only way to be president, right?

dat integrity

No, I'm used to candidates with some sense who know when they're beat and duck out with grace instead of looking like a bitter old man, desperate for attention.
 
I don't have anything political to say, just that Anderson Cooper is a mighty fine man
 
Boston Globe says he walked into a polling location

Again, the law specifies that it's illegal during elections. The law does not consider elections and primaries to be the same thing.

http://www.mass.gov/courts/docs/lawlib/900-999cmr/950cmr53.pdf

Have a read. 03-18-d is the part in question, but look at all the other places that say things must or mustn't be done in 'an election or a primary'... and then notice that it *doesn't* say that when talking about campaigning within 150 feet of a polling station, only saying 'election'.
 
Hope Bernie puts hillary on blast at the next debate, get those speeches released

Glad we reached our fundraising goal last night

There's no purpose in going after Clinton when he's going to have to help her win the general at this point. Bernie is staying in this to get his message across, he has no path to nomination unless a miracle happens tonight.
 
There's no purpose in going after Clinton when he's going to have to help her win the general at this point. Bernie is staying in this to get his message across, he has no path to nomination unless a miracle happens tonight.

Okay

Trump will do it, only he won't stop and it will be nastier than his hair style
 
We already talked about this. Nobody is ever going to say "yup, if we do badly next week we'll just quit."

People say all kinds of things they don't mean when their goal is to inspire the troops. Especially politicians!

Fiorina said she was going all the way to the convention.

Yep. *Everyone* says this. Just like Sanders won't tell you what his backup health care plan is if he can't deliver on single payer health care.


I agree with the sentiment that everyone says this, but it's a lot more believable when there are only two candidates left (and they're both viable in every state), otherwise the remaining candidate is virtually uncontested for the rest of the primary.

Also, just because everyone says it, it doesn't mean that SOME candidates won't follow through with it. Context is just as important as precedent.
 
One on March 6th and another on March 9th I believe

Thank you. I haven't really looked at anything beyond today yet, since it could all essentially be over after today.

I agree the sentiment that everyone says this, but it's a lot more believable when there are only two candidates left (and they're both viable in every state), otherwise the remaining candidate is virtually uncontested for the rest of the primary.

Also, just because everyone says it, it doesn't mean that SOME candidates won't follow through with it. Context is just as important as precedent.

Him saying he'll do it doesn't tell us he won't. But it sure as heck doesn't tell us he will.
 
Wait, did they just say the next democrat debate is going to be in Flint, Michigan?
 
Hahaha, Debbie Wasserman Shultz attacking the CFPB and supporting payday lenders. She's closely allied with Clinton. So much for Clinton looking out for the little guy.

Same old, same old.
 
Again, the law specifies that it's illegal during elections. The law does not consider elections and primaries to be the same thing.

http://www.mass.gov/courts/docs/lawlib/900-999cmr/950cmr53.pdf

Have a read. 03-18-d is the part in question, but look at all the other places that say things must or mustn't be done in 'an election or a primary'... and then notice that it *doesn't* say that when talking about campaigning within 150 feet of a polling station, only saying 'election'.

Also says: "Access to the polling place must be open and unobstructed and the voters may not be hindered."

Nothing will happen because it's a primary, but it's still pretty disgusting behaviour
 
He's already committed to staying in until all 50 States vote

He might, but that statement itself doesn't mean anything. Even Jeb Bush was in it until the end until the moment he announced he was suspending his campaign.

Of course Bernie says right now that he's in it until the end. What would he have to gain by telegraphing otherwise?
 
I agree the sentiment that everyone says this, but it's a lot more believable when there are only two candidates left (and they're both viable in every state), otherwise the remaining candidate is virtually uncontested for the rest of the primary.

Also, just because everyone says it, it doesn't mean that SOME candidates won't follow through with it. Context is just as important as precedent.

Sure. I mean, the question needs to take into account your personal judgment of Bernie Sanders's thought process and his goals.

My assessment has always been that Sanders ran originally to change the race, then decided he actually had a chance at winning. I believe he's smart enough to read a poll sheet and that if he decides he doesn't have a chance to win, he will drop out in order to help the Democratic candidate win.

If you have different priors about Bernie (or, I guess, about the state of the race if Bernie loses every state except Vermont today), then you'll probably come to different conclusions. Which is only reasonable.

However, I don't think "Bernie never lies and always says exactly what he means" is a particularly sensible prior to have, so if somebody is trying to analyze the issue based on that, I'm going to be pretty skeptical of their reasoning.
 
I don't have anything political to say, just that Anderson Cooper is a mighty fine man

After the Cnn Republican townhall, ive lost all respect for him. He is a joke.

Democratic townhall. Grilling Hillary and even moreso bernie with right wing framed questions.

Then on the Republican town Hall only soft balls with no follow up. He basically was told by cruz that he didn't deserve the same rights as other Americans and not a peep from Anderson.

Im glad he grilled the dems. But shit has to be fair.
 
Boston Globe says he walked into a polling location

Yes. And Boston Mayor Marty Walsh was entering polling locations as well. So, the question then becomes does Bill Clinton's mere presence in a polling location constitute as campaign materials? Clinton was thanking poll workers, and not approaching voters inside the polls.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/01/bill-clinton-massachusetts-voting-laws/

From that article - "Inside the polling location, Clinton purchased a cup of coffee from a bake sale and shook hands with poll workers. When another woman asked for a photo, he said, “As long as we’re not violating any election laws.”

The campaign is cognizant of election laws.
 
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