Super Tuesday 2016 |OT| The Final Incursion is a double Incursion (Mar 5-15 contests)
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They could always stuff some ballot boxes, but I doubt that would go over very well.
idk. It's a valid question, but perhaps he thinks getting people engaged about politics and out voting is worth the money? I think there does have to be a point where he shuts it down, sooner rather than later and maybe gives the money to charities.
If you donate to him, maybe you want to see him run as long as he can
I'm working on the assumption that Sanders (or Clinton) would not jeopardize their parties chances in the general election for a very improbable chance of winning the primary. At some point the odds of winning become so low it makes more sense to drop out then continuing to harm both of your chances in the general to the point that you could get a Pyrrhic victory.
Yea at this point the GOP helped create Trump and now they are looking at what has become of it. They can't do anything about it now. He'll get the nom unless something crazy happens
Not gonna lie. After championing voter ID laws this would be hilarious if it came true.
Does anyone have a handy dandy chart for when polls close for each of the states?
I will be doing my part for Bernie in Oklahoma today. I wouldn't underestimate his chances here. Our minority population is more Hispanic than African-American, and he had a very successful rally in Tulsa about a week ago.
BoboBrazil
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Thought this was funny
brainchild
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But this is a totally different (though still valid) argument that has nothing to do with my original point.
As to your point, it's not like the DNC primary process has to work this way. The party can decide however they please to select their candidate. If this is how the process works, both candidates are well within their right to take full advantage of it.
Don't forget that this general election will be longer than the last, so there will be plenty of time to unite the party.
Lol.
I think if/when Trump wins the nomination either the GOP will get in line behind him, or the leaders (are there really any for the GOP right now? The old guard is basically all gone) will leave him to his own devices in the General and focus their efforts on protecting their party down ticket.
Apologies, I jumped to the last page (at the time)
Trump-today
"There's nobody that's done so much for equality as I have. You take a look at Palm Beach Florida, I built the Mar a Lago club, totally open to everybody. A club that frankly set a new standard in clubs and a new standard in Palm Beach. And I've gotten great credit for it," Trump said. "That is totally open to everybody."
"There's nobody that's done so much for equality as I have. You take a look at Palm Beach Florida, I built the Mar a Lago club, totally open to everybody. A club that frankly set a new standard in clubs and a new standard in Palm Beach. And I've gotten great credit for it," Trump said. "That is totally open to everybody."
The best case scenario for Sanders tonight is winning VT, MN, CO, OK and MA. I don't know if he will win them all but, but I imagine regardless of the outcome he goes onto March 15. That's the next big test and he has the money to compete. If he fails there I think he should suspend his campaign, endorse Hillary Clinton and shift to general election mode. The party will need to be united to take down Trump.
plagiarize
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He won't win them all. That isn't a prediction, it's a spoiler.
Macho Madness
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BoboBrazil
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Well it's true. He fought racism http://doingadvancework.blogspot.com/2016/02/when-palm-beach-social-clubs-barred.html
TumblingHippo
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How do third party candidates work when it comes to primaries? Any up and comers or any buzz with any candidates there?
Alex_Mexico
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I read words I'm not sure I understood what they meant. All I could gather was that Texas isn't a winner-takes-all state. I think,
Leona Lewis
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Final incursion?
Maybe the propreantepenultimate one, at least on the GOP side. Cruz and Rubio aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
Delicious.
Maybe the propreantepenultimate one, at least on the GOP side. Cruz and Rubio aren't going anywhere anytime soon.
Delicious.
Macho Madness
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They don't exist. This is only for candidates running for office as a part of either major party.
Don't tell David Duke!
plagiarize
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I'll tell you where else they aren't going. On the ticket. They may stay in, but it'll be like the last few weeks of Christie and Bush staying in. Literally everyone else knew they were done.
A Human Becoming
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I've realized I agree with John Oliver: A part of me likes Trump, but it's a part of me I hate. He can be funny and I enjoy how over the top he acts at times. He truly is an entertainer.
Ray Wonder
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I don't know why this made me laugh so hard. Snap faceswap is killing me lately.
I believe you have my stapler.
Leona Lewis
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Yeah, but the difference is they're staying in at a time that will maximize their public embarrassment.
Texas will be close even with early voting, and (later on) Florida is going to be an absolute bloodbath for Rubio.
At least Jeb! and Christie had the good graces to avoid being Trumped in their home states.
Macho Madness
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Yes. He's a very good entertainer. I just think he'd be a terrible president. As in, possibly the worst we've ever had.
Oh a part of everyone like's Trump. If only for the entertainment factor. But at the end of the day I could never support him. Not that I'd want to. He's only an entertainer that's it.
boiled goose
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The post you responded to is Hilarious. No it is unethical for poor people to donate money for elections. Not only do the rich get a bigger microphone, they are the only ones who should be donating at all! Absolutely fascinating.
It is an interesting discussion worth having no?
It is a discussion worth having... plenty of "Black leaders" support Sanders. They are just not as high profile. More State Senators and activists vs governors and DC congress people. I do think this difference is important. Clearly has more sway with the establishment.
Yes, but momentum requires a narrative. The narrative of a path to victory becomes weak if he gets sweeped today.
The caucus states are the really important ones! Clinton winning MA would be a big blow to Sanders IMO.
I like Trump sometimes. This happens when he talks about how DC politicians are corrupt, the system is broken, and he will actually work for the people. This happens when he goes against GOP talking points and says that Planned Parenthood actually does some good, how Bush did not keep us safe in 9/11, how the Iraq war was a disaster based on lies, how we cannot let people die on the street because they dont have insurance.
Then he says we must build a wall and ban muslims.
Alex_Mexico
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Goddamn! The American electoral system is so fucking confusing! How can the average American keep tabs on all these rules that change state by state? My guess is they don't.
Macho Madness
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The electoral college is entirely winner take all. That's what's used for the general election. It's pretty simple to follow.
This is just primaries, where the parties get to do whatever they want so there's a lot of arbitrary rules.
Veritigo_X
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This doesn't bode well for Trump.
eBay Huckster
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This is good news for John McCain.
Not to do confuse you more, but this isn't even the electoral system. It's the process the parties use to pick the presidential candidates.
Basically each state party is allocated delegates to go on to the national party convention and choose a candidate. Each state party chooses how to allocate them. The easiest way is winner take all or proportional by a state wide vote.
Leona Lewis
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Carson upset incoming
You keep mentioning "viable candidate" and say you want Bernie to keep going til the last state, yet we will know he can't win before because there will come a point where the delegates left won't be enough to get him the nomination. How then will he a viable candidate and why waste people money and time to keep going to the last state
TheOfficeMut
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Any chance that Hillary nominates Bernie for VP?
gutter_trash
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varies by state. varies by party too. LOL
Alex_Mexico
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As far as present day democracies even the American general election is more complicated than other countries' what with its electoral college and winner takes all by state mentality. Sure, compared to the primaries they're piss easy to understand, but they can be very confusing at first for an outsider where presidents get elected by a general and direct vote count and no electoral colleges that can be so unfair sometimes.
If the electoral college voted proportionally to the state's % for each candidate instead of a winner takes all it would already be a much better system. Imagine yourself being a democrat living in Mississippi... going to the ballot to cast your blue vote is as meaningless as abstaining since you know your state is giving all its college votes to the republicans.
BoboBrazil
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Not unless she wants to lose the election.
plagiarize
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I've heard it's unlikely he wants it. Who knows though.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Not quite zero, but pretty close. She wouldn't gain much by doing it, honestly
Macho Madness
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The chances are very low.
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