MikeBreezy92
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This is what's turning me off. While i get living up to your cuzo's example do we have to mention him every time. its like if Arrowverse mentioned Barry or Oliver every time a hero in one show does something.
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Supergirl |OT| Adventure Runs in the Family - Mondays 8/7c on CBS
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This is what's turning me off. While i get living up to your cuzo's example do we have to mention him every time. its like if Arrowverse mentioned Barry or Oliver every time a hero in one show does something.
OdysseusVA
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DangerMouse
Member
I like it.
KDash31987
Member
BlackGhost
Banned
OMG thank you! That was better then I expected. Thought it would be super subtle
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Will watch on DVR later, but already see teases of Cyborg Superman. Be still my heart!
BlackGhost
Banned
Lol I keep watching that henshaw gif...
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
I'd be lying if I said it doesn't annoy me, but it can't be helped. Once Supergirl is more established, all these references will drop and it'll be out of sight, out of mind.
Then it's all, "Did you see the Dark Knight? I can't believe the man in black was crying in the corner."
evil solrac v3.0
Member
worried they wouldn't do the look justice.
then they would talk about him even more. I hope he shows up once.
Schweinehund
Member
I thought it would be funny if they did death of superman.
Followed by Reign of the Supermen.
Or just flipped it and made it Death of Supergirl.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
The problem really is that WB just won't let him appear.
If you hired a guy to play Superman for like one episode as the season final against something like Brainiac, etc there would be no problem with the references.
But at the same time Superman not existing would be just as bad.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
And give us Cyborg Benoist, and cloned teen Benoist? Interesting.
SchrodingerC
Member
To Recap:
Kara and Aunty have finally met and had their first fight.
Jimmy Olsen continues to be awesome.
Cyborg Superman tease.
Kryptonite has been introduced and is in knife form.
Closet of Solitude, holograms included.
Melissa Benoist continues to be the best Supergirl.
So much introduced and/or teased already, can't wait for what's next
Full speed ahead, CBS!
Kara and Aunty have finally met and had their first fight.
Jimmy Olsen continues to be awesome.
Cyborg Superman tease.
Kryptonite has been introduced and is in knife form.
Closet of Solitude, holograms included.
Melissa Benoist continues to be the best Supergirl.
So much introduced and/or teased already, can't wait for what's next
Full speed ahead, CBS!
Can't believe they're playing the cyborg card so soon.
Episode was a lot better then the pilot and the pacing is better as well. Melissa Benoist continues to be great. Looks like we have another player as well. Seems Astra is reporting to someone else it looks like. I doubt it's Zod but Non is suppose to be in the show so maybe it's him.
I am really glad we're going to be getting flashbacks to Krypton. I love when they explore that in any version. I really do hope we get to see Zor-El at some point. We do get to see Lara along side Jor-El when Clark gets to talk to them in the fortress in different versions. It annoyed in Man of Steel there wasn't away to see more of her in Man of Steel. To be honest I just wanted to see more of Ayelet Zurer.
I also would like to see a flashback for James back to when he was younger. Sucks that he's still in Superman's shadow. Now he's in Supergirl's shadow and there has to be some push back on that at some point. That would make for some interesting drama and character development for him.
I'm also hoping as the season goes by we see more of Alex outside of just being a DEO agent.
Episode was a lot better then the pilot and the pacing is better as well. Melissa Benoist continues to be great. Looks like we have another player as well. Seems Astra is reporting to someone else it looks like. I doubt it's Zod but Non is suppose to be in the show so maybe it's him.
I am really glad we're going to be getting flashbacks to Krypton. I love when they explore that in any version. I really do hope we get to see Zor-El at some point. We do get to see Lara along side Jor-El when Clark gets to talk to them in the fortress in different versions. It annoyed in Man of Steel there wasn't away to see more of her in Man of Steel. To be honest I just wanted to see more of Ayelet Zurer.
I also would like to see a flashback for James back to when he was younger. Sucks that he's still in Superman's shadow. Now he's in Supergirl's shadow and there has to be some push back on that at some point. That would make for some interesting drama and character development for him.
I'm also hoping as the season goes by we see more of Alex outside of just being a DEO agent.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
So THAT'S how they're using Superman. Pretty smart, actually. Saw it coming before they blatantly explained it, but really, I shoulda saw it coming awhile ago. Or maybe shoulda given Berlanti credit for seeing it and deciding not to sidestep Superman at all. Anyway, I dig it. I maybe don't dig how on-the-nose Cat's explanation of it was, but I also like how it doesn't also just apply to Kara, but to James as well. That was one of the better scenes in this episode (which was absolutely better than the pilot)
Although I'm going back and you guys are saying you're hearing the Superman theme, or the Krypton theme. Nah. That wasn't in there. Pretty sure WB retired it after Smallville, but even if they hadn't - it wasn't in this episode.
I like how fast it's moving, too. Good stuff.
Although I'm going back and you guys are saying you're hearing the Superman theme, or the Krypton theme. Nah. That wasn't in there. Pretty sure WB retired it after Smallville, but even if they hadn't - it wasn't in this episode.
I like how fast it's moving, too. Good stuff.
BlackGhost
Banned
I hope Supergirl turns out like the flash, and they go the no chill route right off the bat.
a secret-boss
Banned
man these aliens ambitions need to go big and focus than more than one city. lol
I don't like her acting when she's getting punch. it felt forced
I don't like her acting when she's getting punch. it felt forced
neogaffer1
Banned
so when is a good time to expect ep 2 to go up on cbs.com?
KDash31987
Member
Probably shortly after it airs on the West coast.
honestly, I'm kinda over having an issue with the Superman stuff. it's clear that a core part of the show is escaping the comparisons his looming presence causes for Kara and how to emerge from the shadow of someone else and I'm here for that because it ties so nicely to Supergirl's historical standing.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Most people will probably move past it too after tonight's episode, considering how directly they hammered home the reasoning behind leaving him in this universe when they could have just written him out.
He's not just humanity's measuring stick, but like Cat said: He's the mechanism by which we're going to see that even being Supergirl isn't going to be good enough for some people. That not even Kara's gonna be able to duck out from underneath the bullshit expectations and assumptions that women have tossed at them.
Yes, those people will be misusing the example that Superman is setting, but poking around those notions is going to prompt some storytelling possibilities the show might otherwise not have.
Granted, they're hammering at 'em pretty hard (this is two episodes in a row now where Calista Flockhart pretty much verbalizes the feminist thesis of the show in a single monologue) but considering the size of the general audience they're yelling to, being really obvious about it probably isn't a bad call.
Well it seemed pretty obvious he and Kara sorta share the same track, but she seems to be more likely to work with a team vs. this version of Superman being lone wolf more or less, so Jimmy will be less in the shadow of a superhero and more at her side.
Yeah I think it's fine if they just keep Superman mostly local to Metropolis vs. making him global protector. At least that makes it so they don't need to go extinction-level event on Supergirl/National City or make people wonder why Superman doesn't just show up, punch a few dudes and call it a day.
how did you like the second ep, Bobby?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Oh shit, I never actually said whether I liked it overall, did I.
I liked it! The characterization is moving along nicely. These people all feel like people - even Cat Grant. Well, kinda. She's still more caricature than anything, but she's starting to acquire a solid second dimension. I liked the bit about her taking the gossip job not because she liked it, but because that's all Perry would toss at her. I felt that was actually one of the better comics references the show's done, because it flipped comics convention a little, especially if you're familiar with the more common incarnations of the character.
I liked it! The characterization is moving along nicely. These people all feel like people - even Cat Grant. Well, kinda. She's still more caricature than anything, but she's starting to acquire a solid second dimension. I liked the bit about her taking the gossip job not because she liked it, but because that's all Perry would toss at her. I felt that was actually one of the better comics references the show's done, because it flipped comics convention a little, especially if you're familiar with the more common incarnations of the character.
Knightmarre
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Holy shit at they air fight sequence. That was terrible.
neogaffer1
Banned
the episode's up on cbs.com now: http://www.cbs.com/shows/supergirl/...rQ_MIWXQdYsP3TYh/supergirl-stronger-together/
Good "rookie superhero" episode.
- Nice to see them say "Superman" more than once this time. It was almost like some Voldemort-type situation. And hell they even name dropped Clark Kent, Lois Lane, and pretty much everyone in the damn DC universe.
- The suit has definitely had some improvements, or maybe it's the lighting, but Benoist looked amazing in it. Has she also been working out? Her arms looked big in the balcony scene with Jimmy, like a rower's.
- That look when Supergirl pulls the boat apart was priceless! Although, cargo isn't kept in the front of boats lol. There is absolutely zero chance of oil leaking into the water by breaking the front 5 metres off an oil tanker.
- Flying fight scene was clumsy as hell. Weird mix of wirework, CG, and really choppy editing.
- What's with the bloom filter at Catco? Makes everything look like a daytime soap.
- There are some great messages in the writing, even though they are super obvious. Stuff like not being ashamed to ask for help, trusting people etc, is nice to hear.
- Melissa in those grey pants. Oh goodness.
- Can already sense the awkward love triangle between Kara Jimmy and Wynn.
- How does Astra and Kara not know about Kryptonite but the DEO does? I feel like they've forgotten the exposition around this.
- Nice to see them say "Superman" more than once this time. It was almost like some Voldemort-type situation. And hell they even name dropped Clark Kent, Lois Lane, and pretty much everyone in the damn DC universe.
- The suit has definitely had some improvements, or maybe it's the lighting, but Benoist looked amazing in it. Has she also been working out? Her arms looked big in the balcony scene with Jimmy, like a rower's.
- That look when Supergirl pulls the boat apart was priceless! Although, cargo isn't kept in the front of boats lol. There is absolutely zero chance of oil leaking into the water by breaking the front 5 metres off an oil tanker.
- Flying fight scene was clumsy as hell. Weird mix of wirework, CG, and really choppy editing.
- What's with the bloom filter at Catco? Makes everything look like a daytime soap.
- There are some great messages in the writing, even though they are super obvious. Stuff like not being ashamed to ask for help, trusting people etc, is nice to hear.
- Melissa in those grey pants. Oh goodness.
- Can already sense the awkward love triangle between Kara Jimmy and Wynn.
- How does Astra and Kara not know about Kryptonite but the DEO does? I feel like they've forgotten the exposition around this.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Its for Cat
neogaffer1
Banned
only 13 minutes in but really not feeling this after being iffy about episode one. the more i watch the more i wish it was a close-ish adaption of nu52 supergirl.
edit: also cbs online sucks. like five ads every fake ad break that load in at 720p while the actual show struggles to be 480p. plus you don't get detailed bitrate stuff like cw's player gives you.
edit: also cbs online sucks. like five ads every fake ad break that load in at 720p while the actual show struggles to be 480p. plus you don't get detailed bitrate stuff like cw's player gives you.
also cw's player works with ad block and cbs's doesn't
Action sequences in this show are so hard not to laugh at. You've got the brilliant "fire pistols from one moving vehicle to the other" plan to trap a super-being, and the whole mid-air slap fight...and then, for some reason, they decided to make the biologist sister also the hand-to-hand combat expert. Supergirl just looks like she has zero power behind her punches, and nothing seems to connect at all.
Oh, and the general rule is that kryptonians under a yellow sun are some of the strongest, toughest, most powered individuals out there. So an evil one shows up, who is bigger, stronger, and more experienced...and you DON'T call your cousin? "I wanted to show that I can do it on my own" does not fly.
But, yeah, she's cute...and the show isn't worse than the other superhero fare out there.
Oh, and the general rule is that kryptonians under a yellow sun are some of the strongest, toughest, most powered individuals out there. So an evil one shows up, who is bigger, stronger, and more experienced...and you DON'T call your cousin? "I wanted to show that I can do it on my own" does not fly.
But, yeah, she's cute...and the show isn't worse than the other superhero fare out there.
neogaffer1
Banned
this show needs a higher budget
Dongs Macabre
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I guess Perd got a new job.
That Henshaw reveal was pretty awesome. Also, do insects have balls?
That Henshaw reveal was pretty awesome. Also, do insects have balls?
The Illiterati
Member
Honestly, I think people are underplaying just how GOOD a start this is for a network television superhero show. A few years ago, we have the first season of Arrow, which wanted to downplay even its street level heroics to such a degree that the life was sucked out of the concept until they finally let the handcuffs off. Then a year later, Agents of SHIELD, same thing, trying to do comics without the comics.
Now we have a show on CBS of all places that has basically gone all in on its concept in its first two episodes. No dancing around her powers or easing into the concept with mundane enemies. Shes already fought two aliens, we've seen a cabal of evil Kryptonians, shes also told a ton of people about her so we don't need endless secrecy plots.
This is an incredible start, especially when you consider the million ways they could have pussyfooted around this.
Now we have a show on CBS of all places that has basically gone all in on its concept in its first two episodes. No dancing around her powers or easing into the concept with mundane enemies. Shes already fought two aliens, we've seen a cabal of evil Kryptonians, shes also told a ton of people about her so we don't need endless secrecy plots.
This is an incredible start, especially when you consider the million ways they could have pussyfooted around this.
dead souls
Member
Much better than the pilot, but parts of it are still kind of a clunky mess.
neogaffer1
Banned
"you chose to let it be this way instead of allying with your family. you might want to rethink your cape."
umm, aunt is as much family as cousin is, innit?
edit: also lol fake fortress of solitude in the middle of the government agency. that's not going to backfire in any way possible..
arrow s1 for all of its flaws was still far above what supergirl is at this point. the only reason they've jumped straight in is that its the same production company as flash (which also happened to jump straight in btw)/arrow who have got this sort of thing firgured out already.
umm, aunt is as much family as cousin is, innit?
edit: also lol fake fortress of solitude in the middle of the government agency. that's not going to backfire in any way possible..
arrow s1 for all of its flaws was still far above what supergirl is at this point. the only reason they've jumped straight in is that its the same production company as flash (which also happened to jump straight in btw)/arrow who have got this sort of thing firgured out already.
The superhero bits are alright, but all the stuff at the newspaper and at the super duper secret government base are really really awful.
Calista Flockheart in particular is just atrocious. This diet Devil Wears Prada shit is going to become maddening very very quickly.
Calista Flockheart in particular is just atrocious. This diet Devil Wears Prada shit is going to become maddening very very quickly.
neogaffer1
Banned
i agree. rather than endearing like it should be, all of kara's awkwardness in front of cat grant is just cringeworthy, which makes all of that stuff just unbearable. the whole government base thing too is very grating as it doesn't really line up to the character very well...or really any major superhero tbh, but i guess that's still forgiveable as long as they are able to do interesting things with it, but they really haven't so far.
i gave gotham half a season before i bailed on that horrible mess and it was far worse than this, so i'll stay tuned to see if it gets any better...but so far it has some work to do.
the_firewithin
Member
Did I see Perd Hapley?!
Subpar Spatula
Banned
That looked pretty bad. I'll never understand how people can like a TV show when the effects are so bad.
Were you around in the 90s? People will tolerate awful special effects because they know that plot and characters are what matter.
I think the alien camouflaged as a human also gave it human biology, which means balls.
Definitely. Those flying scenes are pretty bad.
OdysseusVA
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EasyPrivacy filters? Disable, refresh, and re-enabling the list should fix it.
PHOENIXZERO
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Still wonky in spots but good improvement over the pilot, I wish we could replace some of Kara's cousins with "Kal", assuming his Kryptonian name is known. There's no way they can have this show go without actually having Clark/Superman at some point making an appearance unless they kill him off.
Watch ads so the views actually count.
Something something Diggle something island something something.
Maybe he didn't want to kill her? Plus an arm stab would probably be better than a heart stab on a Kryptonian who would probably still be strong enough to snap your neck before dying.
Watch ads so the views actually count.
Something something Diggle something island something something.
Maybe he didn't want to kill her? Plus an arm stab would probably be better than a heart stab on a Kryptonian who would probably still be strong enough to snap your neck before dying.
That actually was pretty alright for the first post-pilot episode. It's obviously watered down a little bit for CBS, but I'm pleasantly surprised that Berlanti and Kreisberg are already throwing so much stuff at us: Maxwell Lord, Cyborg Superman, Astra, Hellgrammite, Closet of Solitude, etc.
There was a pretty good interview with Kreisberg in Variety a few weeks back where he described their writing and production mentality for Arrow, Flash, and Supergirl:
There was a pretty good interview with Kreisberg in Variety a few weeks back where he described their writing and production mentality for Arrow, Flash, and Supergirl:
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