Vermillion
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...Uncle Ben? Bruce Wayne's parents?
Superior Spider-Man Spoilers: Big change is happening in April
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...Uncle Ben? Bruce Wayne's parents?
Ultimate verse characters.
Gwen Stacy?
What did they do?
He ain't coming back anytime soon, especially with what they did with his brain.
Vermillion
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Either way, it was clear that Parker's death would be more like Johnny Storm's - part of a story, not meant to be permanent.
I called this back when it happened, but I actually like Superior Spider-Man. I was never a naysayer to begin with, because I was impressed that Marvel had the balls to go with such a major change to a flagship character, but I knew it would be reverted by the time The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hit, because, well, that's the way the industry works. /smugmode
Even so, Superior has been a fun ride, and it's a shame we won't be getting more stories with that version of Peter. I wouldn't mind if they keep the series going as an "Elseworlds" or "What If?" style story, as Peter/Ock was so much fun to watch.
Even so, Superior has been a fun ride, and it's a shame we won't be getting more stories with that version of Peter. I wouldn't mind if they keep the series going as an "Elseworlds" or "What If?" style story, as Peter/Ock was so much fun to watch.
He wouldn't get off Cyclop's lawn. Oh and Redskull stole his dead brain and jacked it into his own and gain telepathy.
Richard Rider
Red Skull cut it out from his dead body and attached it to his.
SargerusBR
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Uncle Ben
Angelus Errare
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You really do, it's a great ride.
But isn't he in Texas? How does he webswing? Spiderman went to LA once and damn near died because a flyer tossed him from great height.
They were probably waiting for Daredevil to do it himself but he's being kinda busy and all.
Not all that surprising. I didn't freak out about the SpOck thing like many dead because...well, it's suiperhero comics. Parker wasn't going to be gone forever.
It's been a decent run. Not a huge fan of Slott, but there have been some decent stories here or there. The whole thing didn't feel all that fresh as it reminded me of a lot of aspects of Knightfall
Interested to see how they bring him back.
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^^^^ Scarlet Spider was enjoyable. Obviously it was nice to see Houston represented in comic form. Haven't really kept up with what they are going to do to the character now....
It's been a decent run. Not a huge fan of Slott, but there have been some decent stories here or there. The whole thing didn't feel all that fresh as it reminded me of a lot of aspects of Knightfall
Interested to see how they bring him back.
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^^^^ Scarlet Spider was enjoyable. Obviously it was nice to see Houston represented in comic form. Haven't really kept up with what they are going to do to the character now....
pants
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Last I checked (which was ages ago) Wasp was still effectively dead/space jesus
In regular 616? No one counts.
In Ultimate universe? Quite a few. For example, Professor X and Magneto (and most of the X-men) were wiped out in a big war.
She's alive again and a current member of the Uncanny Avengers.
Permanently A
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Peter died in Ultimate as well, unless they brought him back
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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I like the central concept of Superior, but I just can't understand how barely anyone has worked it out.
For me, it would be a far more interesting story if everyone knew, and the heroes were trying to hunt him down, while Ock outsmarted them at every turn and still proved to be a better "outlaw hero" than peter ever could have been.
You could even bring peter back, just not in his original body. Make him live his normal life, just without powers for a while, fuming inside that Doc is doing everything he could't, while being under much more pressure. Make him work for the fantastic four fulltime.
For me, it would be a far more interesting story if everyone knew, and the heroes were trying to hunt him down, while Ock outsmarted them at every turn and still proved to be a better "outlaw hero" than peter ever could have been.
You could even bring peter back, just not in his original body. Make him live his normal life, just without powers for a while, fuming inside that Doc is doing everything he could't, while being under much more pressure. Make him work for the fantastic four fulltime.
Parallax
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nope, shes back. supposedly she never died
BJK
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Bendis ignored Slott's Mighty Avengers storyline with Wasp's body serving as host to Infinite Avengers Mansion on his way out the Avengers door (and before giving us an inferior Ultron story just when we thought we were finally rid of him).
The decision to kill off Peter, with the next Spider-Man movie on the horizon, was an obvious stunt. I'm not particularly proud to admit that I wrote to Marvel editorial - not with a death threat, but to say I wouldn't be buying or reading a Parker-free Spidey. I can say that I'm a man of my word, and I'm looking forward to reading his book again.
The next movie, on the other hand....
Northern Lights
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Looks a little too happy.. pass on this.
Palette Swap
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Fun fact: expect criminality to rise 5000% in NYC.
And yeah, I don't expect the Avengers to even notice he's back.
And yeah, I don't expect the Avengers to even notice he's back.
Superior Spiderman does what Batman can't
Not Spaceghost
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Wait I am not seeing the big news here, did he die in this continuity too?
As far as I know he only died in the ultimates universe this doesn't look like it's part of the ultimate spiderman series.
As far as I know he only died in the ultimates universe this doesn't look like it's part of the ultimate spiderman series.
It's HILARIOUS to me that doc ock spidey is pretty much galavanting about killing people and beating criminals to a bloody pulp just a little after their was a skrull invasion and nobody questions that Parker is acting weird.
But whatever, comics. It was a nice trip up to the status quo. I won't be sad to see him go even if it has been a fun read. I need mah quips back.
He never really died. More like Otto's consciousness was put on top of Peter's consciousness. Peter has been around in Superior Spidey since issue 1. Has even shown that he can control the body. There was an issue where Otto realized this and tried to get rid of Parker, but then he needed some of Parker's memories which, probably, inadvertently brought Parker back. It's more that there are two conscioussnesses (is that a word) in Parker's body.
TheKaeptain
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The superior intellect that is Otto Octavius was dying. Before biting the big one he switched bodies with Peter Parker. In the last battle of Ock vs Spidey, Otto won. Before Peter (inside of Otto's body) died he made the new Spiderman promise to keep being the best Superhero of all time. Otto being an honorable and awesome dude accepted his plea. Superior Spiderman is the story of Otto inside of Peter's body. A little bit of Peter is still inside though.
Are you reading the comics? Cause *everyone* is questioning his behavior. The avengers fucking abducted him and did a full battery of tests, but since he is in all physiological ways Parker, they didn't find anything.
Father_Brain
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"Questioning" his behavior would be enough if Ock were actually trying to impersonate Parker's normal personality, but he isn't, and basic logic says that it should be obvious to anyone who knows him well that he's been possessed/replaced/mind-controlled/etc.
If you can get past the fact that nearly every character in the MU is required to act like a complete idiot in order for the premise to work, then Asshole Spidey has made for some pretty enjoyable stories, but it's hard for me to blame any reader for being unable to do so.
TheKaeptain
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He hasn't been going around those that know him. He tries to avoid all of them. Those that he has been around suspect something is up.
Parallax
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not all of them. luke cage was on various teams with this dude for years and just thinks hes acting like an ass.
I just wanna see what Carol Danvers has to say about this.
I predict shade. "You incompetent, non-paying attention, lack of comprehension motherfuckers"
Yeah, after he killed somebody. SPIDERMAN FUCKING MERCED A DUDE IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, WITH A GUN, IN A SUBWAY. And then we got some lame ass line from Black Widow about red and ledgers or some shit, as if Slott's only exposure to the character was the few lines she had in the Avengers movie. He left Mary Jane's bar to be destroyed by Goblins. He's yelled at Aunt May and disrespected her. He talks NOTHING like Parker does, and yet the question of whether or not this is actually parker is left to a lone cop who remembers something Parker said in Doc Ock's body as she goes gallavanting to some Caiman island bank and finds out Octavius is fronting money for Spidey's new crime fighting gear.
Otto even says he's lucky that Tony or Richards wasn't around. So I guess they just don't care enough to question why their friend and comrade has suddenly started dealing out martial punishment.
Yeah, the premise is fun, so I'm enjoying it. It's still funny that a villain takes over a super heroes body and is able to run around, acting completely different, and nobody really cares. He's set up a freaking spy network around NYC with his spiders, but the only thing mentioned is some off comment that the bugle is doing an expose on it. He hires spider minions to help him fight crime. lol
They all just think he's acting weird. Black Cat was in two panels, gets punched the fuck out by Doc Ock and says, "I'LL NEVER FORGET THIS PARKER" or something like that. So, nope, not really.
Reminder that if you HONESTLY looked at every single comic book hero over their 20-40 year careers, their personalities have shifted so much that they would appear schizophrenic and extremely bipolar.
Just like comicbook timelines, it's best to just not think too hard or you'll spoil the magic.
Just like comicbook timelines, it's best to just not think too hard or you'll spoil the magic.
Yeah, spidey kills people all the time.
That Parker and Octavius are different is exactly the point of superior spiderman. That nobody notices is hilarious to me.
I mean come-on, he put on that new black and red suit with Spider-Arms on it. And he got a lot more agressive. He beat villains to a pulp. And nobody said anything? That sounds like lazy writing to me.
Edit: Jaxword raises a valid point. It's comics; dont think too much about it, lol.
Edit: Jaxword raises a valid point. It's comics; dont think too much about it, lol.
They notice that he's acting different but they've all swallowed stupid pills and just think he changed.
There's a difference between suspension of believe and Superior Spider-Man which only works because Otto gets extremely lucky and everyone else was dumbed down.
It doesn't take much thinking to ask, "Why, in a world with skrulls, clones, and people getting mind controlled by villains every other day, does nobody stop to ask if Spiderman is actually Spiderman?"
I don't think it's asking too much to have motherfucking Mary Jane Watson realize that Parker is not acting different, he actually IS different and wonder why.
This was an interesting concept for an arc, and a good choice of hero to do it with, but I think it's gotten a bit long in the tooth. I guess that's probably a side effect of wanting things to happen close enough to take advantage of the cross-marketing with the upcoming film. Will be interested to see what they decide to do with Octavius in the end, this definitely positioned him as one of the more genuinely evil characters in Spider-Man's history.
word.
So he turned a dude into a mercedes or a mercenary? And this happened IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, IN A SUBWAY?
(I know what you're saying, the structure of the sentence just makes makes it sound really funny)
SpOck was really good the first months, especially how he handled Massacre. And from what I remember SpOck and the witnesses never told the police that it was SpOck who executed him. SpOck claimed he let the victims there decide what to do with Massacre and they backed him up in front of the police.
But I think Superior Spider-Man has gotten really bad as of late. If that's intended to make readers happy that Parker is coming back I don't know, but they sure seem intent on making SpOck as intolerable as possible all of a sudden.
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