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Superior Spider-Man Spoilers: Big change is happening in April
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Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
if there was another clone saga(which would be done to mess with Reilly fans....again) it would be cool if it were done in the same vein as ultimates. with parkers DNA being used in different ways rather than straight up clones.
TheKaeptain
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What if that's Ben and he is just happy to be alive? 
pants
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SpOck's been intolerable the whole time. That's the point, he's a super-villain trying to be a superhero who is slipping back into being a super-villain. The whole point is Otto is never wanted to change, he just didn't want to die. The good stuff he does is just because he thinks that's what he is supposed to do. He's always been a bad dude pretending to be good because he thinks he's better than Peter was.
Right, I think it's one of the reasons why it's a good fit for Spider-Man, given the old catch phrase and general theme of the series. This arc has written Octavius as one of the most profound cowards I've ever read for Marvel's efforts. Outside of his brilliant mind for science he's a pretty strong example of what a human being should strive not to be, and at this point he's as far from redemption as he's ever been.
That goal for the run I think was very handily met by now, though, and some kind of progression for his character is overdue.
That sealed the deal, I'm gonna read this.
Well, the story is about to come to an end so there's not much time. For all his faults, Otto's managed to find some happiness with Anna Marie. Ever since her introduction, and the return of Norman, I've been thinking Otto's going to get his own "Death of the Stacy's" moment where he finally realizes everything you just said. A moment where he realizes he can't live up to the responsibilities, that he can't be better than Peter was because he isn't willing to sacrifice a part of his life in the same way Peter always did.
Nintendoga
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Bullshit.
Oh go fuck yourself
This whole thing is just awful. Why even cancel ASM if you're "knew" you were going to bring it back a year later? "For the sales" isn't even a good answer, shit like this and One More Day drove away more fans than it brought in.
Peter was going to come back in April from the start because Marvel stands to make a lot of money when the movie comes out and Superior was originally just going to Amazing continuing on but they decided on a new book since it was coming out the same time as Marvel Now.
I have no problem pointing out the flaws in Superior but it actually boosted sales(though there are factors for why).
I... what the hell? i just looked up Superior Spider-Man #24 and... what the hell has happened to Venom? Why does he look like a deformed version of Carnage? His looks are all messed up. When Parker would wear the symbiote, he was a slightly bulkier, but still definitely lean, Spidey.
Who the hell is drawing this bullshit? GTFO with this crap.
CaptainTiptop
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I was hoping Miguel O'Hara would get to be 616's Spider-Man for at least a little bit, but I'll happily take Peter back. They've gotta use Spidey 2099 for something though, right?
I really enjoyed Superior Spider-Man. I wonder if Doc Ock will end up in another body and continue anti-heroing.
I really enjoyed Superior Spider-Man. I wonder if Doc Ock will end up in another body and continue anti-heroing.
WanderingWind
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They have to have some moment like this, or the entire book becomes Slott's 'I'm the best Spidey writer ever' mastubatory fantasy. Because Peter sucks, my creation is better and I'm upset that I had to bring Parker back because of the Twilight Spider-Man flick coming out.
That's basically what the story is no matter how it ends.
Have you read it? Parker was in Superior Spidey #1. It was obvious from day 1 that he would be back. And we joked at my comic shop that it would probably be around the time of the next movie. I'm not saying that makes it better or worse, but it isn't so far fetched to have an arc planned one year out.
The symbiote is fighting its host. It's grown to like and bond with Flash Thompson and doesn't want to be on Doc Ock. It says this host "tastes wrong."
Spiderman never ever got overly aggressive.
Or put on a dark suit just to fuck shit up.
Angelus Errare
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Amazing.
Assuming Ock doesn't do that to Mary Jane first. O_O
I miss Spidey talking while he fights.
They've done a wonderful job of making sure there's practically zero fallout from this event.
MJ: You were such a jerk!
Peter: It was doc ock in my body.
MJ: Oh. Cool. Let's resume our will we/won't we get back together.
The only person who might be mad at Peter after this entire event is Black Cat, lol.
Machine
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One More Day drove me away. Superior brought me back. Returning to Parker will drive me away again. Any interest I had in Parker was lost the minute they magically erased his marriage.
That bites. I was wondering how people would deal with this after the fact, but if it's anything like you posted above that would be really lame.
How about we just keep Superior going, eh?
skeebs
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You'll need to read the issue. That's not Venom, it's the....Ah, just read it. It's a cool little twist. Hate that it meant the cancelation of the Venom series. It was getting great, then veered off into "what the heck" territory and then ended out of freakin' nowhere. Sad situation that.
Who says they are? Maybe Venom pulls one of their personas out and grafts it to what's his face, Kane or whatever.
Finaika
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So what's she gonna do about her missing tooth?
Parallax
best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
theres a difference between pissed off pete and spock. pissed off pete is more dangerous
...huh?
To be fair i was talking more about a big moment, Ottos had a few smaller moments where he's been humbled, like the time he died in an explosion because he wasn't as smart as Peter.
I just miss the days when comic writers didn't have to create some world changing event to make stories interesting. OMD was beyond stupid, Superior was a bad excuse to make the series darker and had everyone acting like an oblivious idiot. Even way back in the day they had that dumb 'Chapter One' storyline or whatever that lasted like 5 issues.
We all knew this was coming. I just hope they don't go the easy route and retcon all the stuff Otto did with magic or a Mephisto deal or some other dumb shit, but I can't see Slott doing that.
It's going to be fun seeing how Peter deals with everything Otto did to completely change his life and relationships.
And hopefully Otto sticks around in some form, too, but even if he "dies," he's going to come back as Dr. Octupus again when another Spider-Man movie with him comes around.
It's going to be fun seeing how Peter deals with everything Otto did to completely change his life and relationships.
And hopefully Otto sticks around in some form, too, but even if he "dies," he's going to come back as Dr. Octupus again when another Spider-Man movie with him comes around.
TheKaeptain
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Isn't Superior selling better than Amazing was?
Pai Pai Master
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I really hope it becomes a running gag. Everyone continues to swoon at the lovely and dangerous Black Cat...until she smiles....
Incredible Hercules?
There'd be no point in keeping the creative team on if they did that.
Yep.
You know what would be the perfect shit storm to end Spider-Man sales once and for all?
-Reveal Carlie Cooper is Mephisto doing a long con, aimed at converting Spider-Man to his side
-Reveal that Spider-Man's turning to evil willingly and completely is somehow stupid cosmic important
-Reveal that Aunt May is dying of cancer
-Spidey goes on his quest to save her again
-Meets Scott Summers, who gives him the Phoenix's digits
-Avengers step in again because they gotta snoop in a man's pbiz
-Stuff goes wrong, Mary Jane goes Dark Phoenix
-Peter has to kill Mary Jane
-Aunt May dies, is reborn as Madame Web
-Too late Peter is on the dark side
-Worm hole opens from collapsing Ultimate Universe
-Peter killed by Avengers because who gonna stop a demon powered, pissed off Spidey? (Even if someone reasonably could do it, you know the writer would play the SHIT out of that development)
-Miles Morales takes over for Peter Parker 616.
-Launch "The True Spider-Man"
Sit back and bathe in the salt of a thousand, million souls.
-Reveal Carlie Cooper is Mephisto doing a long con, aimed at converting Spider-Man to his side
-Reveal that Spider-Man's turning to evil willingly and completely is somehow stupid cosmic important
-Reveal that Aunt May is dying of cancer
-Spidey goes on his quest to save her again
-Meets Scott Summers, who gives him the Phoenix's digits
-Avengers step in again because they gotta snoop in a man's pbiz
-Stuff goes wrong, Mary Jane goes Dark Phoenix
-Peter has to kill Mary Jane
-Aunt May dies, is reborn as Madame Web
-Too late Peter is on the dark side
-Worm hole opens from collapsing Ultimate Universe
-Peter killed by Avengers because who gonna stop a demon powered, pissed off Spidey? (Even if someone reasonably could do it, you know the writer would play the SHIT out of that development)
-Miles Morales takes over for Peter Parker 616.
-Launch "The True Spider-Man"
Sit back and bathe in the salt of a thousand, million souls.
What's there to change? Aside from JJJ and Black Cat, Doc Ock hasn't done anything to mess up Peter's world in this universe.
If anything he made it better. Peter will be Dr.Parker, and have his own company.
lol. Right?
Pretty much everybody else will be a one line explanation:
To Aunt May: Sorry, I was under so much pressure with my PhD and starting my own company.
To Mary Jane: Doc Ock took over my body.
To the Avengers: Doc Ock took over my body.
etc.
He's still gotta figure out how to dump Otto's fiance.
everything he did off the top of my head
-Ruined his relationship with the Avengers
-Ruined his relationship with Max Modell(whenever he comes back) and if his business goes under he's screwed
-His doctorate was earned via threats so if the Doc Ock thing somehow got out the Professor could just report it or something
-The Black Cat thing
-Ruined his chances to get back together with Mary Jane
-We don't know what the fate of the company will be yet and if it fails both he and his Aunt and Uncle with be under a extreme amount of debt
-He confirmed JJJ's belief that Spider-Man is a horrible moster that need to be dealt with
-He basically called Kaine an abomination and tried to destroy him
-Aunt May saw him gruesomely torturing a villain
-He kidnapped and brainwashed villains
-He betrayed Flash's trust
-He's basically been an jerk to everyone in and out of suit
-Carlie was forced to take the goblin serum because she was snooping around on Doc Ock
- He has a secret lair, henchmen and mech paid for will stolen money that make him look like a villian
-Killed people
There's a lot of stuff that can come back to Peter and we don't know if people will believe that it was Doc Ock.
-Ruined his relationship with Max Modell(whenever he comes back) and if his business goes under he's screwed
-His doctorate was earned via threats so if the Doc Ock thing somehow got out the Professor could just report it or something
-The Black Cat thing
-Ruined his chances to get back together with Mary Jane
-We don't know what the fate of the company will be yet and if it fails both he and his Aunt and Uncle with be under a extreme amount of debt
-He confirmed JJJ's belief that Spider-Man is a horrible moster that need to be dealt with
-He basically called Kaine an abomination and tried to destroy him
-Aunt May saw him gruesomely torturing a villain
-He kidnapped and brainwashed villains
-He betrayed Flash's trust
-He's basically been an jerk to everyone in and out of suit
-Carlie was forced to take the goblin serum because she was snooping around on Doc Ock
- He has a secret lair, henchmen and mech paid for will stolen money that make him look like a villian
-Killed people
There's a lot of stuff that can come back to Peter and we don't know if people will believe that it was Doc Ock.
Lord British
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Guys, I just stumbled across Dan Slott's first Spider-Man comic.
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