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Surface |OT|
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Nope. Did you update to the final version of office?
How can I tell if I've done that? I've ran windows update & the app updates in the windows store and everything is up to date
Green Embers
Member
It will no longer say Preview in the title if it has been upgraded. I believe someone earlier said they're rolling out updates, although you can force it.
Update it through the desktop, not the start screen.
Updates on this thing is kind of annoying. Why are there three different places to go for updates? What's the normal way of getting to Windows Update on the desktop on RT? I couldn't find it in the Settings, it doesn't show up in the Office apps themselves, and it doesn't show up in the control panel by default. After changing the control panel to icon view instead of the summaries introduced with windows 7 I found the Windows Update tab, but this just seems backwards - On a tablet I'm confused as to why the update option in the metro settings menu doesn't just update everything. I mean, I suppose I can understand applications being separate from OS updates or firmware updates but then there's a third layer - desktop windows updates?
But I finally found it and I'm updating now, thanks.
edit: well, or not- can't seem to get past this:
ps- any way to decrease the compression in windows screenshots?
edit: ended up fixing itself after a few more tries, not sure what caused it or what fixed it
brotkasten
Member
Apps.
I know it doesn't exist in a vacuum, but that basically says there's no potential for RT ever getting apps. And it has all the basics plus some key advantages/differences. I just don't agree.
And a Pats fan? Two wrongs do not make a right.
U just mad cuz ur coach ain't got BB swag.
(I thought you got a Surface? Do you not like it?)
Most sites review devices on it's merits not it's potential. Ultimately I think that's right because people like the ones reading this thread really don't need the review, we're clued in enough to make our own decisions. People who need that review want to know what they are getting when they go out and buy a surface today, not what it could be in 6 months.
And right now, everything someone is expecting to be able to do on a tablet, they can do it on an iPad, you just can't say the same about Surface yet.
Our coach just won the most games as a Falcons coach of all time which is kind of like the Surface being the best RT tablet of all time.
I do like my Surface, it is very enjoyable for me to use. I have an older Ipad which I used less and less. Being able to type with the Touch Cover being always available gives the Surface an big advantage for me.
Chromebook 7.5
Asus Transformer Pad Infinity 7.6
Xperia Tablet S 7.6
Kindle Fire HD 7.5
Galaxy Note 10.1 5.6
Nexus 7 8.8
At least iPad Mini is clearly 0.2 superior to Nexus 7.
I think that's basically my problem. The iPad is taken as the platonic ideal of a tablet. It's the baseline, and everyone just counts the features where Surface falls below it and basically disregards the stuff where it goes beyond. Negative differences seem to factor in way more than positive differences, just because the iPad set the template. And of course I won't be delusional and disregard that that's the reality MS has to face, but I still don't think Surface is treated fairly, at least by some reviewers.
brotkasten
Member
I know Windows 8 and RT aren't even a week on the market, but you're doing something wrong if you don't even have official Facebook and Twitter apps at launch. The Twitter Mobile team said they'd ship an official app in the coming months. I'd say that's worse than Windows Phone.
For me, apps make or break a tablet experience and Windows 8/RT has nothing so far.
Plenty of good Twitter apps on the Market. Facebook is another story though.
Well, those at least had phone apps.
brotkasten
Member
Again, it doesn't matter how long it took for other platforms to do or get whatever. It's there and not on Windows 8 or RT. Windows Phone always had "the potential". Potential doesn't do shit when it's not utilized. IE 10 had the potential to bring cross device synchronization to the platforms and it didn't happen. Hey, maybe next year with IE 11. The potential is there, you know?
I didn't like any of the Twitter apps on the store. Even MetroTwit is lacking compared to the desktop version.
Solitaire, Minesweeper, and several of the other Microsoft published games don't even work on RT, which is kinda irritating. It doesn't make much sense to be quite honest, I would love to hear why exactly they weren't compiled for RT.
It doesn't even really sync between the desktop and modern ui versions on the same device does it?
brotkasten said:
It doesn't even really sync between the desktop and modern ui versions on the same device does it?
catashtrophe
Member
Surface took a battering in the Eurogamer review
brotkasten
Member
They don't, afaik. They're both separate apps.
Very surprised they published that today and left the Office Preview stuff in there. It has been available for 3 or 4 days now.
I happen to type quite well with the touch cover.
Gaming complaints are right on the money. But I hate most mobile games anyway, well, except stuff like Wordament and Sudoku.
I happen to type quite well with the touch cover.
Gaming complaints are right on the money. But I hate most mobile games anyway, well, except stuff like Wordament and Sudoku.
LukasTaves
Member
There's a smartglass demo where they showed session syncing between Xbox, wp8 and W8... I have no idea why is that not automatic, though...
Well, the sentences after that one are rather important ;-)
Office Preview is still idiotic.
fluffydelusions
Member
Basically. I think the iPad is a nice device don't get me wrong but I think the scoring (mini especially) is off. It looks nice and everything but the mini is basically an iPad 2 in smaller form.
It should! would be sweet.
To be fair, Windows Phone had (and still has) shit market share. We're talking about single digit percentages here.
They should start measuring apps/market share ratio, WP would be king!
I still haven't found any evidence of a tablet optimized Android app. It'd be great if it was available for Win8/RT but it doesn't make sense to act like it is a big deal that it isn't there given its history and that it doesn't appear to exist on the #2 platform either.
brotkasten
Member
Android on tablets is no competition and never was. Windows 8 already surpassed Android as tablet OS, which is why I ignored it.
There's always a decent amount of retard around MS launches. The current retard of the day with the Surface appears to be the fact these "writers" are apparently incapable of updating their stuff before trying to write a balanced review.
Windows 8 will be on 10's of millions of PC's in the near future, the market place will have a dozen fart apps in no time...
The only real issue I have with the Surface but not sure it will be fixed. Im more worried about the quality of games than the amount of the games on there.
That someone would have to be Cisco. Don't get why this wouldn't have been high priority for MS to get them on board. Is there bad blood between the two companies?
Oct 22 said:
More like... next month, or next next month.
Because the only people who really needs the app would be people on Windows RT. And the number of people on Windows RT isn't exactly significant yet.
Yup, I agree with that. Of course, the tablet has been out for a handful of days, so perhaps time will change. iPad just has so many great, great games. If you're a tablet gamer, there's not much comparison yet. At least until I can play Planescape on my surface.
brotkasten
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And I already said why it doesn't matter for the reviews. Scroll up to read the post.
Meanwhile, Facebook completely ignores Windows 8, as you can see in my post in the Windows 8/RT OT.
Things should get better over time, as Nvidia announced the TegraZone for Windows RT.
Rowi seems to be the best twitter client there right now, but the interface is kind of kludgey and it doesn't appear to be snappable
Rowi can be snapped.