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Isn't Wacom the only solution with the eraser at the end?
Engadget also mentions "modified Wacom".
not sure if this forum post confirms it's wacom or the wacom guy is just guessing?
http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12120
it was mentioned on their site last year that Surface Pro uses their tech but then they removed it, confusing.
http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12120
it was mentioned on their site last year that Surface Pro uses their tech but then they removed it, confusing.
6/10
- Bigger & heavier than an iPad
- Feels heavier than a Apple device with identical weight
- Only runs Windows
- Configurability and Options
(judging from their other non-apple reviews)
Truly intriguing use case with the large monitor mirroring and using the surface as a large artboard/trackpad. Never considered that. Looks like I will be ebaying my surface rt using the money to get a surface pro then ebaying that again to get a Haswell machine.
Too bad Intel couldn't get their processor ducks in a row in time for win 8 launch. Things would look quite different in the Wintel universe. Wonder what apple will do with mbp with a Haswell chip. They could potentially design something special although they have sworn off using touchscreens on laptops.
Too bad Intel couldn't get their processor ducks in a row in time for win 8 launch. Things would look quite different in the Wintel universe. Wonder what apple will do with mbp with a Haswell chip. They could potentially design something special although they have sworn off using touchscreens on laptops.
biosnake20
Member
According to The Verge's Surface RT review almost every problem they had with it will be solved with the Surface Pro. So in reality it should at least get around an 8.5 or so. But we're talking about The Verge here. They're reviews can be pretty outrageous some times. So I wouldn't be surprised with something like a 7.3.
I don't think they completely discount touch on other devices and I wouldn't be surprised to see them add touch in the not-too-distant future. It's just really hard to bring touch to a desktop OS. If it was easy to adapt the entire OS they already would have done it. MS basically added a layer on top of their OS and left the rest completely untouched (pun intended). No idea how Apple is going to do it but they surely must be thinking about it (maybe somehow bringing iOS into it to leverage their success there).
From a ZD Net article a couple of days ago.
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-sales-intel-confirms-hurry-up-and-wait-scenario-7000009516/
I might wait.
http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-sales-intel-confirms-hurry-up-and-wait-scenario-7000009516/
I might wait.
The Nokia tablet would have to come with Tegra 4 and Nokia apps for me to switch.
Or you can buy now and eBay later and consider the depreciation the cost of using the device now.
PCWorld Surface Hands-On
Ignoring the RT mistake, how is this a revelation to anyone?
PCWorld person said:
Ignoring the RT mistake, how is this a revelation to anyone?
I already do this with my RT via HDMI. And to be honest it was kind of a revelation to me, because it makes the RT screen both control surface and monitor and I am sort of into it.
Anton Sugar
Member
Urgh. Surface Pro impressions sound fantastic. Told myself I'd hold off, but very tempting.
Eel O'Brian
Member
Yeah, anyone who completely blows the device off like that is not a person whose opinion anyone can seriously consider.
I never understood this stance. I like being able to see and use the desktop on the Surface RT. I see it and I don't get confused about not being able to install desktop apps. I like being able to access the file system and it made it much easier for me to manage work files, images, and music.
I recently sold my RT so I can put the money towards a pro because I do need to install desktop apps for work. If it weren't for that I would have kept the RT and waited for gen 2 of the Pro.
Yeah, it is certainly cool, but I thought that was one of the first things everyone thought of when they saw W8. Devices that work great as tablets and then work great as productivity devices when docked and/or when keyboard/mouse are attached.
Agreed.
Not terrible, but not amazing.
DataStream
Member
Has anyone mentioned the clock on the i5?
A mini display port. There are probably converters for whatever input your monitor needs.
iFootball
Member
After seeing the final specs, reading the hands-on previews, I'm sincerely considering buying the Pro now... HYPE ++
I sold my Laptop just in time a couple of months ago and this would be a great replacement for my needs... no need for a Laptop+iPad if I've get the Pro... hopefully it also comes day-1 to Best Buy and I can take advantage of the finance options there
I sold my Laptop just in time a couple of months ago and this would be a great replacement for my needs... no need for a Laptop+iPad if I've get the Pro... hopefully it also comes day-1 to Best Buy and I can take advantage of the finance options there
Isn't there only one though?
Sorry, for some reason, I read that as "the two" and not just two. No idea about hooking up two monitors.
Typhoon_Ex
Member
I am so HYPED to get a Surface Pro it's not even funny.
Why would you get a Surface Pro over a Yoga 11S?
Damon Bennet
Member
Dont like Keys on the back of my Tablet
brotkasten
Member
I'd like the Yoga 11 even more if it had a pen.
Domcorleone
Member
I wonder how gaming on this thing would be like. I am seriously considering ditching my ipad 4 for this baby and side loading a mac os for music programs, and using metro for tablet stuff and the x86 aspect for gaming. Is this all possible or am I a big dreamer?
its a traditional pc so of course you can do that.
Domcorleone
Member
hmmm just as I hoped then, I just wonder if I put lion os on it whether or not I will still be able to use the touch screen and use my finger as a mouse. Too early to say I suppose...
Dead Prince
Banned
don't know why i came back in. now i want the surface pro D:
brotkasten
Member
The Surface Pro is nothing more than an Ultrabook without the keyboard and a touch screen. Gaming is possible, but it has only an integrated Intel GPU, so don't expect high performance at 1080p.
Then again, this video of the Acer W700, which has similar hardware, impresses me every time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCJ5-GRPF0s
zephervack
Member
Holy shit, is he running wii,ps2 emulator flawlessly on an integrated intel???
Is the pro gonna do that???? Omg
brotkasten
Member
I wouldn't call it flawlessly, at least not in terms of FPS (you can see GoW struggling), but yes, the CPU power of the Core i5 certainly helps.
Domcorleone
Member
Id be fine with gaming at 720p 30fps with most games on medium/low settings. If that is possible consider me sold completely.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
Yup
brotkasten
Member
30-ish FPS at 720 is certainly possible in some games. Check out the benchmarks on Anandtech and keep an eye on the Intel IVB prototype results.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6194/asus-ux31a-putting-the-ultra-in-ultrabooks/6
That's pretty much what you can expect from the Surface Pro.
Apparently there are compatibility problems with some games from GoG, but they're working on official Windows 8 support.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
Pfft that link doesn't have enough bar graphs.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4000-Benchmarked.73567.0.html ( benchmarks)
brotkasten
Member
I didn't pick the Notebook Check review, because their system has a quad-core i7, which is a completely different beast. The Intel prototype in the Anandtech benchmarks has a i5, which is similar to the Surface Pro/W700 CPU.
Complex Shadow
Cudi Lame
My bad. I thought pro had a 7. Kinda makes me want it less....just a little though.