brotkasten
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It's new, it's expensive and it's somewhat exclusive, because no one else has it.
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It's new, it's expensive and it's somewhat exclusive, because no one else has it.
I couldn't care less about exclusivity. And I don't know anyone who finds high price points appealing.
So probably the new factor.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I find high price points appealing for basically everything but games..
DukeTogo1300
Member
Finally got a chance to demo a Surface at BB and OHMAHGAD! Such a sexy and solid-feeling device, and it seemed significantly more compact than I guess I was expecting. There was no pen to demo though, but even so there will be no talking me out of one now.
Its a shame that best buy and staples don't allow you to use the pen because using that at the MS store is what sold me on getting one. The best digitizer I've ever used.
What the hell are you doing to it. I have an RT and never got scratches. Hell, they use it as a skateboard.
DukeTogo1300
Member
I should also mention my thoughts on the touch cover, because I've been dying to see how it feels. Certainly a step up from an on-screen kb, and I consider it a fine form/function compromise that will be perfect for many, but I think a type cover is a must for me.
It will be interesting to see the kb technologies improve in later generations along-side the obvious stuff like size and battery life.
SlipperyMoose
Member
I work in a big box retail store. This is anecdotal of course but there was a pretty good demand for them on launch. Not only that but it feels like a lot of people ask about the Surface and end up buying it. A good word of mouth I suppose.
BrownChickenBrownCow
Banned
Touch cover is O-K, Id say I type about twice as fast on that as I do via touch. The type cover I am almost full speed with little errors. I also recommend the touch arc mouse. That thing is pure on the go sex. Fuck the wedge.
it's just thin scratches, not visible unless you look on it from an angle
also, a note about the pen/digitizer:
it's impossible to calibrate it to get a 1:1 response
this is because when you calibrate it, you are doing it in one orientation, say landscape
when you use the tablet in portrait mode, the position is off by maybe a millimeter or 2
this is due to the pen orientation + calibrated in different rotation
it is not noticeable center of screen, noticeable in the screen edges
What?
actually, how do you calibrate it?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Where would be the best place to get news regarding updated drivers to get Adobe and other products working properly?
Alec
Member
I picked up one of these yesterday and I'm pretty in love with it.
I immediately erased\formatted all partitions to get the maximum amount of space (it's a 64GB) and re-installed Windows 8...now I'm missing drivers.
Yes, it was stupid of me to not back them up, but I didn't even think about it. There is one "Unknown Device" in Device Manager and Windows Update has no idea what it is. Does anyone have a driver backup from a stock Surface that they might be able to share with me? Googling "Surface Pro Drivers" gets me absolutely nothing.
I immediately erased\formatted all partitions to get the maximum amount of space (it's a 64GB) and re-installed Windows 8...now I'm missing drivers.
Yes, it was stupid of me to not back them up, but I didn't even think about it. There is one "Unknown Device" in Device Manager and Windows Update has no idea what it is. Does anyone have a driver backup from a stock Surface that they might be able to share with me? Googling "Surface Pro Drivers" gets me absolutely nothing.
Remember your device could be the screen or the keyboard. But you probably thought of that. Why not do a RESET from the control panel menu and see if it restores the missing stuff?
I admit I just sniffed my Surface. It smells vaguely of metal, but is almost odorless.
Alec
Member
Because the "Reset" function uses the Recovery Partition...which I erased.
The camera, microphone, display adapter, speakers, touch screen all work...no clue what the "Unknown Device" could be. Everything seems to be working fine, but it still bugs me. =P
LukasTaves
Member
Look for Vendor and Device ID's on Device Manager, from those you can find out which device it is and the drive it needs.
Because the "Reset" function uses the Recovery Partition...which I erased.
The camera, microphone, display adapter, speakers, touch screen all work...no clue what the "Unknown Device" could be. Everything seems to be working fine, but it still bugs me. =P
SD card reader?
Alec
Member
Hardware Ids:
ACPI\VEN_MSHW&DEV_0006
ACPI\MSHW0006
*MSHW0006
Everything else is either blank or says *null*. Not a single indentifying thing.
There isn't one on the Pro.
Robobandit
Member
Hardware Ids:
ACPI\VEN_MSHW&DEV_0006
ACPI\MSHW0006
*MSHW0006
Everything else is either blank or says *null*. Not a single indentifying thing.
There isn't one on the Pro.
Yes there is.
It's the small slot on the left side of the unit (same side as the mini displayport output) it's a microSD slot, spring loaded.
LukasTaves
Member
Hardware Ids:
ACPI\VEN_MSHW&DEV_0006
ACPI\MSHW0006
*MSHW0006
Everything else is either blank or says *null*. Not a single indentifying thing.
There isn't one on the Pro.
Yeah, that's a bogus vendor Id... really weird XD (But it looks like it spells Microsoft Hardware).
There is indeed a micro SDXC card reader on pro, tough, it's probably that
Robobandit
Member
both cameras working?
LukasTaves
Member
How about the pen?
I bought the Sony Duo 11 when I didn't get my Surface. i7 8GB ram 256SSD.
Best Buy just got a Pro 128 for me, and I am thinking about taking back the Sony.
How is 4GB of ram for you Pro owners? This is a desktop replacement for me, and I use Lightroom and Photoshop a lot.
On my Sony my ram usage never got past 3GB while using Lightroom. I only have 400 pics in there right now though.
Best Buy just got a Pro 128 for me, and I am thinking about taking back the Sony.
How is 4GB of ram for you Pro owners? This is a desktop replacement for me, and I use Lightroom and Photoshop a lot.
On my Sony my ram usage never got past 3GB while using Lightroom. I only have 400 pics in there right now though.
Anton Sugar
Member
Seems like impressions have been pretty good so far from GAF, at least compared to the RT. It's so damned tempting...
I think both cameras are angled for a reason.
Why? Unless you have only around 24GB of space you have a 128.
Yes that is the case =/ Even says 64GB behind the back stand. WTF MS D:
This ought to be very easy to address.
Anton Sugar
Member
I await the "MS scamming customers out of 64GB" thread!
It's not so much that I doubt it'll be addressed or that the CS reps will give me a hard time (currently talking with them). It's moreso that I'm pretty much free this weekend and wanted to spend time tinkering around with it. I mean I guess I can still do that but now I can't even go and install everything I wanted to
128GB Surface Pro actually comes with 24GB of storage!
Domcorleone
Member
Has anyone tried to install mac os on it as well? Im thinking of picking this up and getting rid of my ipad 4. its so tempting...
a secret-boss
Banned
Sigh
Hate it when ur early users of first machine
Keyboard will not pop out on tablet mode especially on IE METRO
Oh and I can't rotate my screen anymore even when I try to unlock the screen lock because it's grayed out. SWEET
EDIT: the cause of all this. Detaching the Type cover while the machine is asleep even when u restart the tablet. Only way is to attach cover and detach. Stupid
Hate it when ur early users of first machine
Keyboard will not pop out on tablet mode especially on IE METRO
Oh and I can't rotate my screen anymore even when I try to unlock the screen lock because it's grayed out. SWEET
EDIT: the cause of all this. Detaching the Type cover while the machine is asleep even when u restart the tablet. Only way is to attach cover and detach. Stupid
plagiarize
Banned
So, no real surprise here, but the Surface Pro handles AVP Classic without breaking a sweat. I've got the Monkey Island Special Editions downloading to see how they are with touch on the steam versions. For a laugh I'm going to try Alan Wake's American Nightmare too.
ambientmystic
Member
I await your findings on the performance of this game.
There should be a Surface OT for gaming in the gaming side to entice buyers who may be considering getting one for some light to medium gaming on the go.
Actually... it's broken, I went to the Microsoft Store and they put me in the line for a new Surface.
The camera was tilted to the right.
brotkasten
Member
I think there's a laptop gaming thread.
This is about as far as it got. It's funny now seeing the amount of people who seemed to be interested in getting one, but when it came to the actual launch, most of them seem to have completely forgotten about it. (Or just ignored it)
Nope.
plagiarize
Banned
I'm updating the drivers atm. It ran okay on low, performance wise, but everything other than the ground was white. Surprisingly still playable, but not ideal at all. I will update in a bit. Its good to get some use out of this wired controller I have. Monkey island wasn't touch friendly. Sam and Max season three was pretty touch friendly from what I played, which wasn't enough to say for sure. Had to play at 1080p to get the cursor to properly line up, with graphics settings on 3.
Edit: Its okay at 720p and very low detail. Playable, but the framerate spends a good deal of time sub 30fps. Dunno that I'd recommend a purchase it the surface is your only option.