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[Kataploom]

you are right, there is no HDMI 2.0 VRR... and guess what, there's also no HDMI 2.0 anymore..it doesn't exist officially anymore. it's not an official standard anymore.

every single HDMI 2.0 device is officially an HDMI 2.1 device. any Device that has an HDMI bandwidth of between 18Gb/s and 48Gb/s is officially HDMI 2.1
Xbox One S? HDMI 2.1! old 2018 era Samsung TVs? also HDMI 2.1!

every feature associated with HDMI 2.1 is also entirely optional. VRR, ALLM etc. and can be in theory implemented to any of them but can also just be entirely missing.

I told you that in that other thread already.
and then you claimed the PS5 supports freesync, at which point you demonstrated that you are talking out of your ass.


Here's 2 monitors.

ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG Review

The ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG is a 27-inch, 1440p gaming monitor with a 240Hz refresh rate. It has a variant sold at Best Buy called the XG27AQDMGZ. It uses ...

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AOC Q27G3XMN Review

The AOC Q27G3XMN is a 27-inch budget gaming monitor. Competing with the Acer Nitro XV275U P3biipx, it's rather unique for a low-cost monitor as it features Mini ...

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both "HDMI 2.0",
both Vesa Adaptive Sync, Gsync and FreeSync Premium compatible.
the PS5 meanwhile supports VRR only on one of them. explain how that can be the case, if HDMI 2.0 doesn't support HDMI Forum VRR.

at which point, you'd also disagree with the people working at RTINGS.com... who will tell you that the ROG supports HDMI Forum VRR and the PS5 doesn't support any screen other than HDMI Forum VRR compatible ones...

I wonder if you have the hubris to still claim you're right.


edit: also, technically HDMI 2.1 also doesn't really exist anymore it's all HDMI 2.2 now. all current HDMI 2.1 certified devices can get 2.2 certification... and before that 2.0 devices could get 2.1 certification... which in return means that 2.0 devices can now be 2.2 certified while supporting or not supporting VRR, ALLM or any special features, and having an 18Gb/s bandwidth

The HDMI Forum everybody! they make it so simple and easy to understand!

I agree with everything you're saying in this thread basically, there must be something else than just HDMI approval since I was also expecting them to have Freesync or something and hope that when they mentioned VRR they only referred to HDMI forum VRR, then I learned all the problem with HDMI VRR in other devices and everything made sense.

It's probably as hardware limitation, even if not a problem of every unit, but some specific units with a specific HDMI component whatever. But I doubt it's just HDMI Forum approval.

 

[kevboard]

I agree with everything you're saying in this thread basically, there must be something else than just HDMI approval since I was also expecting them to have Freesync or something and hope that when they mentioned VRR they only referred to HDMI forum VRR, then I learned all the problem with HDMI VRR in other devices and everything made sense.

It's probably as hardware limitation, even if not a problem of every unit, but some specific units with a specific HDMI component whatever. But I doubt it's just HDMI Forum approval.

HDMI Forum certification shouldn't be an issue unless there is some hardware quirk for sure. like, basically anyone and their mom gets HDMI Certified without issue.
it's really purely speculation at this point why they don't have VRR support of any kind.

IMO if it's technically possible to just enable Gsync Support tomorrow, they should do it. the question is, why don't they...

it could be an API issue. maybe they still are trying to figure out how to handle VRR in-game, especially with undocking and docking coming into play.
they'd need to instantly switch (hehe) from Gsync running through the HDMI VRR compatibility fallback using a Displayport>USB-C>HDMI connection, to an onboard Gsync screen running through display port, and all that without the VRR breaking in the game somehow.

I have had VRR issues on PC even, with a Monitor that has full hardware based Gsync support, where suddenly Gsync would just disengage until I rebooted the game and stuff like that.

so if something is keeping them from supporting VRR that isn't a hardware issues inside the Switch 2... then my bet is a software issue, not a certification issue.

 

[Gitaroo]

it should atleast support 4K+60hz+HDR+VRR like xbonex HDMI 2.0B no?

 

[Mozza]

'(HDMI implementation) sloppiest of all the console manufacturers', John Linneman 'Digital Foundry'

Base of what evidence?. This seems more like a personal opinion as the HDMI chipset on the Switch 2 more than capable to offer VRR support. And pretty sure it's the same chip set as on the PS5 slim.

 

[Mozza]

Never underestimate the capacity of some people to create a shit storm on everything especially the console community, if Nintendo said that the Switch 2 is VRR capable only for Gsync panels that would create caos here… Trust me.

How dare yo suggest that some on here make mountains out of mole hills.

 

[kevboard]

Base of what evidence?. This seems more like a personal opinion

it's not.
1: 1440p is handled weirdly and has handshaking problems with some TVs that should support it.
2: no VRR support even tho the built in screen having it.
3: extremely weird HDR settings that you need a full tutorial for to get right
4: HDR issues with non-HDR TVs, where if you enable HDR in handheld mode, it will stay in HDR mode when getting docked, leading to a washed out TV image and the need to manually turn it on and off every time.
5: no 4k 120hz Support, meaning many people who own TVs that aren't supporting gaming centric features (Sony TVs, some cheaper Phillips etc. ones) will need to switch to 1080p for every game that uses 120hz for any reason (40fps modes, 120fps modes, low latency modes like in SF6 etc.) this already has a negative effect on one of the launch titles, Cyberpunk. Cyberpunk forces 120hz, which means you will lose image detail on such TVs as it tries to reconstruct to 1440p. so there you have to always go into the system settings to manually enable and disable 120hz to get the best possible image quality for different gamers

 

[IlGialloMondadori]

Dunno if it's been posted or if it's worth a damn, but this dude claims the dock is capable of vrr.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/s/TVw6cdSt3u