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[RCU005]

Are we pretending 500$ is a lot for anything tech related? especially a console?
wtf.
Everything got 2-4x more expensive in last 5 years alone. wake up

This way of thinking is why stuff gets more expensive in the first place. Corporations rely on people like you to justify whatever price they want to set regardless of inflation or the economy. They know there are people with this mindset that will swallow whatever kool-aid they give them.

 

[clarky]

The PS3 was sold out everywhere at launch. It was very difficult to find one. That was the most expensive console that gen. Still didn't sell well until after the price cut to $299 along the rebranding.

We have to wait to see until next year to actually know if this console will sell well.

This console is on course to be the best selling launch of all time. No need to wait to find out.


"Bloomberg's Takashi Mochizuki added on social media that the Switch 2 may sell 20 million consoles in its first year. That would surpass the original Switch's mark of 15.1 million units following its 2017 debut and is higher than some previous estimates"

Nintendo Switch 2: 13m sales in 2025; growth opportunity centres on digital content

The Switch 2 launch is vitally important to Nintendo’s future business performance. The company has attempted to diversify in recent years with some success in mobile gaming and IP licensing, but still derives over 90% of its revenue from its console hardware, software and services. With a...

www.ampereanalysis.com

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Let's see how it's doing in 12 months before we say much.

You're in denial if you think it's not going to sell stupid numbers.

 

[Calverz]

Is this an American currency issue?

In the UK the switch is £425 with Mario Kart. The Ps5 is £479 (disc equivalent) with Astro Bots first effort

Mario Kart world is £67 digitally £75 physical
Donkey Kong £59 / £67

Most of Sony's first party efforts are £70

Unsure what the huge outpouring of rage is about in recent weeks unless the States doesn't correlate to the rest of the world pricing...

It's an American thing from what I can see.

 

[LakeOf9]

I've said it in multiple threads, and I will say it here too: while it may not do as well as Switch 1 (I mean how could it, the Switch 1 will end up as the highest selling system of all time by the end of its life), anyone who is expecting the Switch 2 to underperform to any meaningful degree is demonstrating just how disconnected from reality they are, and they will be in for a shock. The whole "preorders were always going to sell out"/"let's wait for sales after the forty few weeks or months or after the Holiday season", all this cope was applied for the Switch 1 too (I was one of the people doing it!). In the end, it didn't matter then, it won't matter now.

Nintendo has made a good machine and has good games lined up. As long as that is true, the sales will come.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Not everyone is as broke as you think either.

 

[Topher]

Not surprising.
That's the thing, if you have a low number of avialble products and they sell out it doesn't necessarily mean there's a large demand for it.
For the Switch 2 I actually do think it will sell millions of units during the first few months.

High end Nvidia gaming GPUs?

Even with plenty of stock available, it wasn't like 4080s and 4090s were the popular choices among PC gamers. It has always been the 3060/4060 variant that sell the most. Not exactly a shock that if a lower price option is available then that is usually what most are going to choose. Same applies to PS5 Pro.

 

[Zannegan]

Is this an American currency issue?

In the UK the switch is £425 with Mario Kart. The Ps5 is £479 (disc equivalent) with Astro Bots first effort

Mario Kart world is £67 digitally £75 physical
Donkey Kong £59 / £67

Most of Sony's first party efforts are £70

Unsure what the huge outpouring of rage is about in recent weeks unless the States doesn't correlate to the rest of the world pricing...

I think, price-wise, we've had it easy for a long time. On the other hand, our prices don't include taxes (because they vary state to state).

Nintendo's US prices may not be out of step with what the rest of the world pays, but it is out of step with what gamers are used to paying on other platforms and even on Nintendo's past consoles. Nintendo's first and only $70 gane was Tears of the Kingdom. For $70 to be the new "floor" and $80 to be the new ceiling, that's a pretty significant jump.

 

[th4tguy]

$499 for a new console and a aaa game with it. Yeah that's about the most I'd pay. $80 up front plus tax for a game by itself? No

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It's Nintendo.

No one should be shocked. Only 1 place to play Nintendo games (non emulated) and that is on a Nintendo console.

No one is buying this for 3rd party, albeit nice to have some options, but it is ALL about Nintendo IP's here.

That isn't any different than literally any Nintendo platform starting with the N64. As for the pricing, they see what others are charging and assess what they should be charging. Clearly they're not wrong

 

[willothedog]

Even with plenty of stock available, it wasn't like 4080s and 4090s were the popular choices among PC gamers. It has always been the 3060/4060 variant that sell the most. Not exactly a shock that if a lower price option is available then that is usually what most are going to choose. Same applies to PS5 Pro.

It's not just gamers who buy a high-end dGPU. The pro is just a one-trick pony, it plays games a little better.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

The price of the console is fine, plus it's $449. Trying to make the argument that it's expensive just because "it doesn't have the power of a PS5" being a device with a battery powered mobile chip is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in an enthusiast forum. It's literally the argument my 11 year old nephew would bring to the table.

Anyway the price of the games is a problem, especially mario kart, and can sadly set a bad precedent for games from other companies.

I agree that the pricing of certain software is outrageous and laughable. That's where the complaining has some merit and Nintendo should be told via lower-than-expected sales that $80 is not going to happen.

The hardware being priced where it is should surprise no one. It was barely realistic to think Nintendo could charge $399 and not take a loss. Not with realities of the economics of making modern game consoles.

 

[IDKFA]

This console is on course to be the best selling launch of all time. No need to wait to find out.


"Bloomberg's Takashi Mochizuki added on social media that the Switch 2 may sell 20 million consoles in its first year. That would surpass the original Switch's mark of 15.1 million units following its 2017 debut and is higher than some previous estimates"

Nintendo Switch 2: 13m sales in 2025; growth opportunity centres on digital content

The Switch 2 launch is vitally important to Nintendo’s future business performance. The company has attempted to diversify in recent years with some success in mobile gaming and IP licensing, but still derives over 90% of its revenue from its console hardware, software and services. With a...

www.ampereanalysis.com

Remember when people thought the Wii U would be a success. 54 million sold in the first four years. How did that then out?

Nintendo Wii U Will Sell Out, Sell Faster Than Wii

Research from IHS Screen Digest suggests Nintendo's video game console will sell 3.5 million units worldwide before the end of the year.

www.forbes.com

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

This way of thinking is why stuff gets more expensive in the first place. Corporations rely on people like you to justify whatever price they want to set regardless of inflation or the economy. They know there are people with this mindset that will swallow whatever kool-aid they give them.

So the Switch 2 should cost the same as the Switch OLED or maybe $50 more, with entirely different components, newer & more expensive, and not take a loss on each piece of hardware sold? Trying to follow your logic here. Care to take me to it? The Switch OLED retails for $50 more than the OG Switch yet has a lower profit margin for Nintendo on each unit sold, due to the cost of the screen. The cost of building these machines no longer significantly decreases over time like the good 'ol days. That ended over a decade ago. You're just gonna have to learn to get over it. No one likes paying more, obviously.

 

[Krathoon]

People are not really fine with paying up. It is just the enthusiasts with disposible income.

Nintendo is really screwing over the families that want this stuff. Disney is also really bad about doing this.

 

[blacktout]

$499? Dude it's $449.

You see this disingenuous shit in every Switch 2 thread and it's driving me nuts. Either the Switch 2 is $449 and Mario Kart World is $80, or the Mario Kart World Switch 2 bundle is $499. It's not a $499 Switch 2 with an $80 game.

At least OP didn't repeat the "$90 Mario Kart" lie, I guess.

This honestly says Switch 2 will sell somewhere between 13 and 150 million. Pachter could probably guess that.

Seriously. People think they're being smart and reasonable when they make mealy-mouthed milquetoast predictions like that, but in reality they're saying absolutely nothing.

 

[Krathoon]

The Switch 2 pro controller is a totally a ripoff. Should be half the price.

 

[LordOcidax]

You're in denial if you think it's not going to sell stupid numbers.

Some people are forgetting that the Switch 2 is going to receive a New 3D Mario, a New Pokemon, a new ANIMAL CROSSING, Fire Emblem, a new 3D Zelda, Xenoblade etc etc etc a New Splatoon, Luigis Mansion, Kirby… The Switch 2 selling +90 million is almost guaranteed.

+ A new Mario Kart game at launch…

 

[Topher]

It's not just gamers who buy a high-end dGPU. The pro is just a one-trick pony, it plays games a little better.

Just like a 5070 Ti plays games better than a 5070. Pro also has increased storage.

 

[Elginer]

Im single, have no kids and live by myself. Since I don't have to spend money on kids or ungrateful girlfriends I can buy what I want. As a coworker told me, don't need it? Nope but I want it and can afford it so fuck it.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

The Switch 2 pro controller is a totally a ripoff. Should be half the price.

So…half the price of the OG Switch Pro Controller? That's been $70 the whole time, back to March 2017. Or are we just mad and not being literal?

 

[delishcaek]

I don't see the problem with anyone raising prices for some of their games if it means they stay MTX free and are polished at launch. This includes other devs as well. I wouldn't mind dropping 100€ on Elden Ring 2 and heck, if the story mode of GTA6 turns out to be as good as RDR2 then I am willing to pay more for that as well (as long as they keep GTA Online its own thing as I don't care about that).

If someone can't afford an $80 game, then they couldn't afford a $70 game either and prolly had to think long and hard about getting a $60 game. The used market is where you should buy your games... and then, you should be thankful for Nintendo keeping prices high, as that means the used $40-50 copy you bought 2 years ago is still being sold for 40-50 bucks. Can't say that about Playstation and especially Microsoft games.

 

[dorkimoe]

Its gamers as a whole, look at the ps5 pro, look at these $250 collector editions, gamers are willing to fork out money

 

[Krathoon]

Nintendo is kind of in a weird place now because they have adult fans willing to fork over the money. So, they are charging premium prices.

 

[xandaca]

I'm one of those people who complained about the prices and then went ahead and preordered. It's mostly the cost of the games and accessories I take issue with, the price of the console itself is high but not completely unreasonable. The Mario Kart bundle, about £30 more expensive than the console on its own, seemed passable in that respect, and I wouldn't have preordered the console on its own or bought the game at its RRP. Similarly, while I'm interested in playing Cyberpunk, I'm not paying £65 for it so will wait a few months to see if it drops in price; the same goes for the other games, which are not worth what's being asked for them, both in terms of price and being on a game keycard (or, for Split Fiction, a code in a box), and for the accessories, of which I haven't bought any despite a Pro Controller normally being an instant buy (I'll either use the one from my original Switch or the joycon grip).

In other words, the prices are very much affecting what I'm willing to invest in, even though I'm lucky enough to have some disposable income at the moment. MKW is the sort of game I'll likely be coming back to for years so don't mind Switch 2 being a MK machine for a fair old while, and having the option of buying new games on while mostly carrying over my original Switch library. The big questions are how many early adopters are thinking like me, buying into the console and MK specifically but holding off on everything else, and for those not jumping in immediately, will the prices deter their willingness to jump in at all further down the line, particularly with the hardware price seeming more likely to go up than down? I seem to remember the Wii U broke sales records at launch and then fell off a cliff, while the 3DS sales tanked so badly as a result of overpricing that Nintendo reduced the cost very swiftly, apologised and gave early adopters some games as compensation. I don't think the test of the Switch 2's success will be how well it sells at launch, but what its tail is looking like in a year or so.

 

[rofif]

This way of thinking is why stuff gets more expensive in the first place. Corporations rely on people like you to justify whatever price they want to set regardless of inflation or the economy. They know there are people with this mindset that will swallow whatever kool-aid they give them.

it is what it is.
It's not getting easier for these companies to source components and people for work either.
It's not kool-aid to really think switch for 500$ is not too expensive. It's not charity and I wonder what margins are on it

 

[SnapShot]

They're massive, out of touch, anti-consumer scumbags, yet people love their children's Marios and Zeldas so much they will forgive them for anything the moment one of these gets announced

 

[Krathoon]

I think $500 a decent price considering you are getting Mario Kart World for $50 which is probably it's real value.

 

[semiconscious]

$499 switch 2? $80 game? In this economy? Should be a problem but consumers show time and time again that they are willing to pay up.

Don't ask me why, but the reality is a small minority may complain but people don't speak with their wallets. Or rather they DO speak with their wallets and what they are saying is: charge me more plz, I'm ready to pay whatever it takes

the switch has sold 150 million units. there're 8 billion people on earth. so, out of that 8 billion, 1.9% have a switch. meaning 98.1% of us don't. hang in there, op...

 

[daffyduck]

..

$450 for the system isnt a problem.

As for up pricing, I dont blame nintendo for the current economics, shit is getting more expensive. Just within the last few months, a ton of the groceries I get have gone up in price as much as 25%

I do, especially for the games.

Have wages gone up by 25%? Or anywhere near 4-5x, as someone was saying about the inflation rate?

Plenty of them here in Canada. Just because your country applies stupid tariffs and screw u over doesn't mean it's the Same for the rest of the world bud lol

Even the switch 2 is not sold out here. You can still go to GS and preorder one.

It's better than the stock situation of the last two gens, but 5080/90s are not plentiful. Add the lousy exchange, and *distributors adding the tariff cost even though it doesn't apply*, the value proposition is bad.

* Just watch them do it.

 

[SJRB]

 

[Fabieter]

The price of the console is fine, plus it's $449. Trying to make the argument that it's expensive just because "it doesn't have the power of a PS5" being a device with a battery powered mobile chip is the stupidest thing I've ever seen in an enthusiast forum. It's literally the argument my 11 year old nephew would bring to the table.

Anyway the price of the games is a problem, especially mario kart, and can sadly set a bad precedent for games from other companies.

Honestly, I actually liked the showcase aside from that ridiculous paid tutorial. But hell no to a 30% price hike.

 

[Ulysses 31]

No problems coughing up 450 Euro for the hardware, since there's Switch 1 games I wanna play in enhanced mode. Haven't bought any pure Switch 2 games yet.

 

[Sooner]

Yeah, when people actively support bad business practices, that undermine the hobby for me, I get upset. That's why Nvidia is pricing their GPUs at 2 grand. Because people like you happily paid a scalper 1800 for a 3090.

 

[Horseganador]

Well, it's the same old story: people complain on the forums, but then they buy whatever the price is, and Nintendo know it.

 

[AndrewRyan]

Still on the fence but proud for passing on a best buy preorder last night. My mind says to wait/skip but my heart is screaming: GET IT NOW!

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Are we pretending 500$ is a lot for anything tech related? especially a console?
wtf.
Everything got 2-4x more expensive in last 5 years alone. wake up

It's what you get for that $500 which is an outdated console with terrible online services where the only redeeming quality is playing Nintendo games.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

Guys, I wasn't around when the PS3's price was announced. Did GAF produce the same amount of threads for that as for Switch 2? We're beyond beating a dead horse here. We're beating the putrefied cadaver of a horse that was beaten to death and beaten again and again and again after dying.

What do the haters hope for, exactly? That if Switch 2 sales lag behind expectations, the prices of hardware and software in the market at large will go down? I'm almost willing to wish that Switch 2 sells mediocrely just to see these people watch prices go up anyway and keep blaming Nintendo for something that would have happened regardless.

 

[clarky]

Remember when people thought the Wii U would be a success. 54 million sold in the first four years. How did that then out?

Nintendo Wii U Will Sell Out, Sell Faster Than Wii

Research from IHS Screen Digest suggests Nintendo's video game console will sell 3.5 million units worldwide before the end of the year.

www.forbes.com

You think the S2 will sell around the same as the WiiU?

Get real.

Its a proven form factor that everyone loves but this tme with what looks to be great third party support as a cherry on top.

Only WW3 would stop this thing selling less than 100 million.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Some people are forgetting that the Switch 2 is going to receive a New 3D Mario, a New Pokemon, a new ANIMAL CROSSING, Fire Emblem, a new 3D Zelda, Xenoblade etc etc etc a New Splatoon, Luigis Mansion, Kirby… The Switch 2 selling +90 million is almost guaranteed.

+ A new Mario Kart game at launch…

Yep. People want the system to fail but it's not going to happen.

Nintendo basically hit it out of the park with the Switch and despite it being extremely underpowered and having a lot of issue it's gone on to be the highest selling console of all time (if it hasn't broken the inflated number given by Sony for the PS2 it will very quickly). Switch 2 may not sell the same 160M units it will still sell a shit ton.

Honestly, I actually liked the showcase aside from that ridiculous paid tutorial. But hell no to a 30% price hike.

Are you okay with the pricing of PC handhelds?

I don't understand the people complaining about cost especially in today's climate with how terrible inflation is. You have a handheld gaming console with:

• 1080p 120hz HDR display with Gsync
• Nvidia powered with access to DLSS and capable of outputting 4K and 120hz (4K 60 with 120 for 1440p/1080) with HDR. This is all in a device that is slim and quiet.
• Removable controllers capable of being combined into a albeit mediocre controller
• Dock for seamless switching from portable to docked
• Access to not only future Nintendo exclusives that nobody else will get, and a huge library of amazing games on the original Switch.

I'm not saying that Nintendo is a consumer friendly company or that they don't do anything wrong as they do plenty wrong and have for a long long time but the price for what you are getting isn't bad. We live in a time of $1000 phones, and $2000 GPUs.

 

[darrylgorn]

At the end of the day, the market speaks for itself.

Time to consider a new hobby if this is too expensive for you.

Not because you can't complain, but those complaints will fall on deaf ears, so save yourself the stress and go touch some grass.

 

[tr1p1ex]

Well, it's the same old story: people complain on the forums, but then they buy whatever the price is, and the companies know it.

Yeah you get 2 for $900 with the hope you can scalp the 2nd for $900 to reduce your cost of the 1st by ~75% which then in turn allows you to afford $80 games.

 

[RoboFu]

The switch 2 isnt a 3ds , it's better than a steam deck. Mobile tech cost more than a hulking console tower. Get over it it's never going to be $300.

Stop with these threads.

 

[kremit]

Some people are forgetting that the Switch 2 is going to receive a New 3D Mario, a New Pokemon, a new ANIMAL CROSSING, Fire Emblem, a new 3D Zelda, Xenoblade etc etc etc a New Splatoon, Luigis Mansion, Kirby… The Switch 2 selling +90 million is almost guaranteed.

+ A new Mario Kart game at launch…

He said the thing

3000 scalpers of Allah inbound

 

[KaiserBecks]

RTX 5090s have sold out everywhere. RTX 5080s have sold out everywhere. Switch 2 has sold out everyone.


Looks like everyone's willing to pay up despite the noise. Well, except for for the PS5 Pro lol

I don't know if Sony has released any numbers on the Pro but what if they're simply able to offer more supply? I'm not unhappy that I was able to buy one without any hassle or fear of getting ripped off by scalpers.

 

[Andyliini]

I can't deny gaming is getting expensive, Nintendo Switch 2 included. Then again, it has games I want to play and I can afford one. Ot's an easy choice for me to get it as soon as I can. Games are expensive, and as European, we are getting even more royally screwed.

But I talked with my colleague about this, and the thing is, even if games like GTA6 cost 120€ or more, those who want it, will get it, no matter the price. There might be less people getting it, but companies will make decisions based on calculations on how these bring in most money. And as of now, it seems like rising game prices is their way to go. It probably means I buy less games than before, but there still are lots of games I will buy. It stings, but that's life.

 

[Generic]

$499 switch 2? $80 game? In this economy? Should be a problem but consumers show time and time again that they are willing to pay up.

Don't ask me why, but the reality is a small minority may complain but people don't speak with their wallets. Or rather they DO speak with their wallets and what they are saying is: charge me more plz, I'm ready to pay whatever it takes

No they aren't, most people are buying the Switch 2 version with Mario Kart bundle instead of paying $80 for the game.

 

[BlownUpRich]

The funniest thing is Youtubers with the most ragebait tweets were the 1st ones doing livestreams & videos about "mY sWiTcH 2 pRe OrDeR eXpErIeNcE!" lmao it's all ragebait content to farm money, the market will always speak, ladies & gentlemen, I know, it's the hard truth, but it's just that. I pre-ordered the Switch 2 Mario Kart World bundle & DK Bananza.

 

[Walter Matthau]

This honestly says Switch 2 will sell somewhere between 13 and 150 million. Pachter could probably guess that.

I was just going to post the same exact reaction.

"I don't think this will sell as many units as the best selling console of all time"

I'm shocked at such a bold prediction.

Personally I think Switch 2 will sell around 105m with its successor released either holiday 2031 or spring 2032. It might sell more or have a slightly longer life if it gets a true "Pro" model instead of an OLED variant.

I bought the Wii U when it was already assumed to be a failure right after the Wind Waker edition console was released. I had a blast with it and this is coming from someone who completely skipped buying the Wii. If Nintendo showed that level of support to a console that sold 13m then I'm pretty sure they'll still put up a good showing in the unlikely scenario that Switch 2 only manages to squeak out 40m units.

 

[kremit]

The funniest thing is Youtubers with the most ragebait tweets were the 1st ones doing livestreams & videos about "mY sWiTcH 2 pRe OrDeR eXpErIeNcE!" lmao it's all ragebait content to farm money, the market will always speak, ladies & gentlemen, I know, it's the hard truth, but it's just that. I pre-ordered the Switch 2 Mario Kart World bundle & DK Bananza.

YouTube stopped being a somewhat credible source when YouTube Shorts dropped.

Now you can just whine on a 30 seconds video and employ a few bots and baboom you successfully convinced everyone.

Everyone being 10 terminally online people btw. Still quite profitable since it usually gets picked up by the algorithm.

The PS5 "liquid metal" hoax comes to mind.