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Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment |OT| Now in English | #YOLO - You Only Live Online
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names2hard4you
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I only got home now. I wanted to reply but typing on my phone can lead to some auto-correct jankiness so let's see if I can help you out, I'll go in the same order as your posts:
>Yes press O, but don't do it when your burst bar at the bottom of your screen is depleted. Not only will it raise your heat level, it'll also do less damage. Use skills if you have SP, or don't press anything so you can Auto-attack and regain the burst bar back! (which segways nicely with the next question)
> Heat level is 5? SWITCH!
> DO NOT SPAM GOOD! Your goal is to nurture the AI, not only to raise specific stats but to also make those specific actions that you say "Nice" to happen with more occurrence, what you are telling her now when you say "nice" all the time is that every action that she makes is good! That's bad!!! Before you get into any battles, talk to her and change her fighting style to ATK, BUFF, or DEF. From there, let's say you choose to pursue attack. Use the Heroine command wheel and ask her to perform skills (for example) in your fights. After doing so if you see "Atk Skill" on the bottom left, you will want to say "Nice"! By doing this you will be telling the AI "this is exactly what I want you to do when I ask you to perform a skill". If you are nurturing attack you don't want to say nice to anything else but that. Not only will this make the parameter that you chose level up faster, since you are focusing on it, it'll unlock that particular costume faster as well!
>Last two you got correctly!
That's it I think. If anyone wants to add on to this list, you are welcome to, but this one already a bit longish aha, sorry about that. Hope it helps you and that you enjoy the game more Hasemo!
Japanese VA, proper translation.
BeatnikGunsoo
Member
ah ok got it thanks
Pretty much.
You'll want to focus on one action to praise them on.
Skills is a good place to start IMO until you get the Attack costume.
Edit:
Let us know how the English translation is compared to the Asian version if you can. That's what bothered me the most about the import copy.
names2hard4you
Member
Yes ATK is a good start because it is fairly easy to get it filled.
BUFF too since even when you ask a heroine to use a skill, rather than to block specials (which when you pick buff would be ideal) she will still use some buff actions, mixed up with atk.
Now DEF? That takes the longest. In order to level that up you will need to ask the Heroine to actually defend, heal, or to become the bait. Asking her to perform a skill when you pick DEF, more often than not will result in what I call a "Null action" in which she performs a special skill, but it doesn't belong to neither of the 3 stats. You can praise it, but it won't raise any of characteristics...
BUFF too since even when you ask a heroine to use a skill, rather than to block specials (which when you pick buff would be ideal) she will still use some buff actions, mixed up with atk.
Now DEF? That takes the longest. In order to level that up you will need to ask the Heroine to actually defend, heal, or to become the bait. Asking her to perform a skill when you pick DEF, more often than not will result in what I call a "Null action" in which she performs a special skill, but it doesn't belong to neither of the 3 stats. You can praise it, but it won't raise any of characteristics...
Defense can be raised more quickly via the "Guard" command or threats commands which shift the focus of enemies over to them via skills such as "duel shout".
Buff (or support) skills typically I rely on "Stop sword skill" command using which they will stun the enemy, or simply spam sword skill till they pull out the Buff-type. Take note of what your companion is saying. If they ask you to stun the monster, do so. Their follow-up e.g Sonic Resonance is usually a supportive-type as well.
Yea, don't praise if you don't see the AI using your ideal skill type.
Also...how are costume conditions filled? Just have them fill out the ATT/DEF/BUFF to a minimum of maximum two categories e.g Buff-> Stun+Sword Skill usage category?
Buff (or support) skills typically I rely on "Stop sword skill" command using which they will stun the enemy, or simply spam sword skill till they pull out the Buff-type. Take note of what your companion is saying. If they ask you to stun the monster, do so. Their follow-up e.g Sonic Resonance is usually a supportive-type as well.
Yea, don't praise if you don't see the AI using your ideal skill type.
Also...how are costume conditions filled? Just have them fill out the ATT/DEF/BUFF to a minimum of maximum two categories e.g Buff-> Stun+Sword Skill usage category?
names2hard4you
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If you go look at your character's stats you'll see 3 different shapes for each stat. Inside those shapes you'll see a smaller grey shape. your goal is to get one of the 5 (or 4?) substats from the main stat to go over that shape. Once it's done, you'll have that costume forever, and you can just change your Heroine's attacking style to something else to unlock the next one. Once you have all 3, the 4th and last one unlocks.
Piercedveil
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Going to rewatch the show up to episode 14 this weekend I think so I can have it fresh in my mind before Tuesday.
Can't wait to play this.
Can't wait to play this.
Wait, so it's bad to press ""Great" whenever I have a chance? So far it's been helping me a lot. I never run out of SP during boss fights.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
if you are trying to make a specific AI type than it is not suggested. if you dont care about that or the extra costumes spam away!
It helps with SP regain, but when you want to unlock costumes, it becomes a big pain in the butt trying to nurture the AIs to the specific growth path that you want to, since they are already accustomed to using a wide variety of skills.
names2hard4you
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A well nurtured AI will do the same, give you SP and level up faster. Whenever you ask her to do a skill, she will 80-90% of the time use one from her battle style, let's say ATK. You say nice to that, you will gain SP and make her level up faster.
You obviously don't need to nurture the AI, but if I can fight bosses that are 50+ levels above me, in part, is thanks to my Heroine and me knowing safely that she will do what I ask her to do when I bring up her command wheel.
Arpeggio23
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So, should I play the PSP game first? I wasn't planning on even touching it, but the way you describe it, it seems like they should be played in order.
Also, are we even sure that this is actually releasing next week in NA? There is literally no mention of it anywhere...nothing on the PS Blog, etc. I'm starting to become skeptical.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Dont touch the PSP game since the Vita game is a remake of the PSP one.
The initial news the west was trying to give out was incorrect making it sound like its something different from Hollow Fragment. The only real difference for the most part are 3 things. Some of the early events are shortened / compressed, tutorial is different and the way the combat and UI works is completely redone.
The game is still Infinity Moment just that it also has the Hollow Fragment content included.
I can't speak about the Asian version since I never played it but... There are still some typos here and there and the words run off the screen... Otherwise, this is more or less a competent localization. Some lines feel awkward and crap but I'm enjoying it. I do think my 2 hour impression of the game has been mostly grindy which isn't the best thing in the world and the way the skills take up so much SP is annoying. However, there are systems in place to compensate for that. I'm not sure why but the mechanics work well. The part that really really annoys me is how cluttered the screen can get so sometimes it's hard to know when to JF shit.
Allocate 3.5gigs with patch and DLC.
It was 3 gigs without patch.
Yeah.... Took me a while.
what is in the patch anyway
I wouldn't know since the patch is not available.
225+ hours, still playing the 2nd play through, so many things left to do if you keep playing.
Still at level 149, not all hollow areas at rank 3, still have a lot of implement untouched, not all missions unlocked, not all characters unlocked, not all costumes unlocked, not all CG unlocked ...
edit: And OSS, you really need it, it is very handy.
Still at level 149, not all hollow areas at rank 3, still have a lot of implement untouched, not all missions unlocked, not all characters unlocked, not all costumes unlocked, not all CG unlocked ...
edit: And OSS, you really need it, it is very handy.
OSS?
I'm surprised by how gamey this game really is. I thought it'd be a cheap cash in but there is some really cool stuff in this game and a lot of stuff to do. Granted when you boil down to it, you're just doing the same thing over but a lot of the auxiliary stuff is neat and how it all meshes is really well done.
names2hard4you
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If we are to be overly technical, isn't that what videogames are about? Doing the same thing over and over
There is variety in missions, specially in the hollow area. The way you play too can be different, since you have different skills, different weapons, different equipment parts, different heroines with multiple battle patterns for you to nurture, etcIf we are to be overly technical, isn't that what videogames are about? Doing the same thing over and over
Yes but most games are good about disguising it. Here I don't think so much.
Btw, having cleared the Hollow Fragment story mode (finally...I died once at the end and was beyond pissed for a while) and all of the heroine HF quests, now there's this
Any idea where's the location?
Also, after the 1.03 patch, gosh, the Hollow Fragment area is so much easier to navigate now. In vanilla build it was mostly bumping around till you got to the correct map. Really loving the change. Text still doesn't look all that fixed from that July update. I'm still getting assault and penetrations.
additional pink icon quests called "request for kirito or something? I cleared most of Sinon's, since hers was mostly getting involved with Hollow missions where you have to kill things...and now she's asking me to go to this garden to rest. I tried checking the lover to rest area, where I got the bird eggs she needed from...but it wasn't there
Any idea where's the location?
Also, after the 1.03 patch, gosh, the Hollow Fragment area is so much easier to navigate now. In vanilla build it was mostly bumping around till you got to the correct map. Really loving the change. Text still doesn't look all that fixed from that July update. I'm still getting assault and penetrations.
names2hard4you
Member
I still need to get around the patch content... As for what i bolded, the script wasn't changed, they just cleaned up the typos I find. Made some of the sentences look clean, it's all.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Gotta get their friendship level high enough if its armor you want to switch. dont remember if you get the old shit back though. dont think so.
I assume I just give weapons for weapons then, right?
"Original Sword Skills", chaining sword skills
edit: every additional chained skill will have their power increased by 20%, the power of the 6th chained skill will increase by 100%
edit2: a purple light will appear at the chaining moment, you just need to invoke the next skill at that very moment, but for sure you need to have enough SP, you need to complete some implement quests to unlock higher than 2 chains OSS and OSS SP savings.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Yeah pretty much and if its better what they have they will equip it. Be careful not to give em something that you only can get once though. Unless you dont really care about giving it away.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Hollow Area ones yes. Main story ones no.
Hollow Area quests seem to reset by time. No idea how long the reset timer is though.
Thanks Parekeetman! Ugh. Give me the game Grace Chen.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Just keep in mind the balance / design of some of the hollow quests can be a little maddening. So just roll with it and know there are a bunch of others out there to find if you think one is too stupid. Which there will be a few like that.
names2hard4you
Member
Do not quote me on this, it might of been just me, but post patch I have noticed that at least for the armor that you give them, if you switch it to something else, you get the one that you gave her first back, if what she had equipped was originally given to her by you.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
if so thats good! i never paid attention but was pretty sure they didnt give stuff back initially.
Yea, you will get back the previous stuff that you gave them, but US players will only get the patch around September or so.
I'll imagine Kayos is currently playing the old build without the detailed Hollow maps etc.
names2hard4you
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Yup like I said this is post patch, so to US players be careful of what you give them.
Tbf, the game is great even without the patch so it shouldn't be an issue (though it wouldn't hurt for reviewers to mention a patch coming with 20 - 30+ hours of content
)Why is it frustrating for reviewers? It's relative. If nothing is there to be compared to yet then it shouldn't matter.