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Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together |OT|: Fat Bottomed Girls
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Dead Prince
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font size 8. Comic SansSkilletor said:
RPG_Fanatic
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Can't wait for this and Dragon Quest VI next week.
I'm still hoping that the pre-order bonuses make it to Canada.
I'm still hoping that the pre-order bonuses make it to Canada.
Fimbulvetr
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duckroll said:
The world ends next year.
The universe decided to give us one last amazing thing to enjoy. Thanks universe!
gunstarhero
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new (2.10.11) ATB podcast (Active Time Babble) is all about this game - good listen so far.
So STILL pissed I can't get this game thru PSN...
So STILL pissed I can't get this game thru PSN...
If any of you guys are interested, Amazon has the strategy guide listed for $12.50.
TheRagnCajun
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Peff said:
That sucks, at this point going forward, the proposition of buying UMDs is looking worse, given that PSN titles will probably be playable on NGP and possibly some phones.
DiscoJer
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mjc said:
Oooh, 400 pages.
I actually have the strategy guide for the Atlus PS1 release. Terrible. Missed much of the secret stuff.
edit: Found it. 96 pages, $14.99. As I remembered, just a bare bones walkthrough.
I will have to get the new one, hopefully it doesn't sell out as I am broke...
Dead Prince
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bradygames... hmmmjc said:
Dead Prince
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oh. i want to see what it is if it's 400 pages then lolShadow780 said:
mjemirzian
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Bradygames tactics advice is usually poor imo, but you'll probably get some nice artwork included. Only 'official' guide writers I respect right now are Futurepress.
TurnipFritters
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I can only hope it has artwork for all the characters and classes.
Dead Prince
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gross. i'm just going to get it laminated then.
PataHikari
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mjemirzian said:
Because your definition of balance is stupid.
mjemirzian
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Whatever you say chief!PataHikari said:
mjemirzian said:
I bitch about balance constantly, and I somehow think your definition of balance is stupid, too. If time genuinely wasted when you die is somehow a measure of balance, then I simply don't know what to say. I guess long load times and time consuming battle animations can help with balance.
DMPrince said:
This is like the LOST |OT|
PataHikari
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Also, mr.mjemirzian, you seem to think that difficulty = penalty for failure.
This is not the case.
The act of rewinding your turn itself shows that the game has difficulty. The fact that you can rewind it has nothing to do with the games difficulty.
Just because you can see the credits doesn't mean the game is easy. After all, it's entirely possible to just download a save and beat the game in five minutes! According to your definition this is entirely fair!
After all, the player is to use every tool at their disposal. And guess what? For a PSP game it's perfectly possible to download a save from the internet five minutes from the last boss with a maxed out character and infinite lives and what have you. Therefore, according to your definition of difficulty no PSP games are balanced.
This is not the case.
The act of rewinding your turn itself shows that the game has difficulty. The fact that you can rewind it has nothing to do with the games difficulty.
Just because you can see the credits doesn't mean the game is easy. After all, it's entirely possible to just download a save and beat the game in five minutes! According to your definition this is entirely fair!
After all, the player is to use every tool at their disposal. And guess what? For a PSP game it's perfectly possible to download a save from the internet five minutes from the last boss with a maxed out character and infinite lives and what have you. Therefore, according to your definition of difficulty no PSP games are balanced.
Dead Prince
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here comes a winded reply in 5...4...
mjemirzian
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It doesn't have anything to do with time wasted, it has to do with manipulating and avoiding the RNG, as I've already said. For example, Advance Wars has quicksaves, but they don't reduce the difficulty much if at all because it's almost entirely a deterministic game. Valkyria Chronicles quicksaves on the other hand open the door to all manner of difficulty reducing features based on the RNG.Yaweee said:
This is called cheating. Hope that helps.PataHikari said:
BentMyWookiee
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Excuse my noobiness, but would somebody mind explaining what RNG is? I keep seeing it mentioned.
BentMyWookiee said:
Random Number Generation, i.e. how the game determines "randomness".
In Fire Emblem, even if you turn the system on and off again, the autosave will produce the same results because the "randomness" is reading off a table of values already determined, so the same actions will produce the same events no matter what the shown probabilities are.
Different games use different methods for determining randomness, and if you know what you're doing, you can use quicksaves and the CHARIOT system to abuse things.
Fimbulvetr
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BentMyWookiee said:
Random number generator.
Basically, the game rolls an invisible 20 sided die to see if your attack hits or not(other factors contribute as well, obviously).
BentMyWookiee
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Ahhhh ok. Thanks! I played a lot of Final Fantasy XI, so everytime I saw RNG, I thought it had something to do with a Ranger class... haha.
But now life makes sense again
But now life makes sense again
Fimbulvetr
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Yaweee said:
CHARIOT doesn't reroll.
Going back to use your super special attack that missed the first time won't work, it will miss every time.
We don't know if quick-save works that way yet.
Change topics: This track is awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayymvmuAu2M&feature=related
mjemirzian
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Oh yeah, the soundtrack for this game is certainly glorious.
On the one hand, the removal of the Training command makes it impossible to pit one half of your hapless soldiery 'gainst the other, placing friend against friend and brother against brother in a contest of brutality possessed of neither purpose nor reward, embarked upon for no reason other than sadistic fiat.
On the other hand, being able to rewind turns makes it possible to subject unsuspecting members of your militia to a nigh-infinite variety of grim fates in perpetuity, forcing them to endure endless fatal slashings, bludgeonings, and burnings as they ponder what manner of capricious god would subject them to such cruel purgatory.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. This sounds like a step sideways, at best.
On the other hand, being able to rewind turns makes it possible to subject unsuspecting members of your militia to a nigh-infinite variety of grim fates in perpetuity, forcing them to endure endless fatal slashings, bludgeonings, and burnings as they ponder what manner of capricious god would subject them to such cruel purgatory.
I'm not sure how I feel about this. This sounds like a step sideways, at best.
mjemirzian
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That reminds me of Fire Emblem Shadow Dragons side quest requirements where you needed to off more than half your cast to reach them. I don't know why people were so upset over that change. Good times were had sacrificing worthless units to their doom.ixix said:
PataHikari
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mjemirzian said:
Why? After all, it's allowed by the game.
Or are you putting some arbitrary restriction? I thought you said a player could do whatever it takes to win?
After all, it's entirely possible to make a game where you can't download and transfer saves. Put it on the DS, which is impossible to transfer saves without a cheating device.
If a developer doesn't want players downloading completed saves and actually have some semblance of balance then they shouldn't make save files transferable, or don't put their games on systems that can do this.
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