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Tales of Graces |OT| Gracing the PS3 with the Best RPG Combat
- Thread starter kayos90
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Why would you do that?
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I'm what I think might be the end of the game.
.That boss battle... I used all-divide, got it so close to death, but then lost at the very end. I had a 102 combo, too... So crushed...
I have two options... 1) load my save file, go to the entrance of the dungeon, and buy extra equipment, but I'd have to navigate through the dungeon and
. 2) lower the difficulty from Moderate to Normal.
Beat Richard and then Lambda went inside the woman from that other planet, which was another boss battle
I have two options... 1) load my save file, go to the entrance of the dungeon, and buy extra equipment, but I'd have to navigate through the dungeon and
fight Richard again, plus spend lots of money on Mythril stuff
So I just finished up
and although I have really enjoyed it, it has not quite grip me like vesperia did. That's not a bad thing though because it is still amazing and it is really starting to get really good now. It just has a slow start. Also the battle system is a lot more complex than vesperia. All in all it's amazing. It's so pretty. I love it, please namco more tales!!!
the Malik fight on some bridge
Disgaeamad
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Maybe I'm a bit less annoyed about that whole thing because I bought it planning on doing Jude's side followed by Mira's side, and thus when I did Mira's side for the plat run I could appreciate all the stuff that was unique to it while knowing about the gaping plot hole. It's definitely a flaw, and they should have pointed out that you should do Jude's side first, but I know people who ended up doing Mira's first and then Jude's and still thought the narrative was brilliant.
Not trying to say the game's perfect and does no wrong, but some of the criticisms you and kayos give it (some of which I even agree with!) are expressed in ways that make them seem like devastating flaws and is kinda unfair.
I feel like some sort of one man Xillia Defence Force, maybe I should stop haha.
Keep trying! I went into that fight with 7 life bottles on Evil first time round and always used them all about 3/4's into the fight, which ended up in me dying a lot, but after refusing to submit I eventually managed to win. Persistence is the key.
Fahrenheit
Banned
I'm really glad I stuck with this game. Getting though the first act almost made me shelf the game. I'm now 10hr in and very involved with the plot and chanters and having a blast with the fighting system.
I dunno if it will over take Vesperia as my favorite Tales game but its almost a lock for number 2.
I dunno if it will over take Vesperia as my favorite Tales game but its almost a lock for number 2.
RPGCrazied
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Anyone know how to create a Fame and Faith sword? Its an inn request.
I haven't played Vesperia, but I don't see how the other parts of ToS2 are better than what's in Graces. :\
I have that sword so next time I play I'll check (unless someone tells you by then). I do know it's a weapon for Richard you buy in Graylside with a crystal.
Not to be the bearer of bad news but you might be disappointed later. Of course YMMV. For all the shit some people in this topic have given Vesperia's story, Graces's suffers from the same problems except the first parts are less interesting and the cast is worse.
But dat battle system! Still love the game.
1 hours after first arc...
not bad, not bad.
i still don't understand a thing of the battle system but it's fun: robably i should set combat to semi auto o manual to learn things as the ai and quick battles don't help the process...
i have some problem also with the dodge system, half of the times asbel go in parry mode in place of dodging at ease...
loading could be better, music is ok, far better than the early preview imho.
art design interesting, town design nothing special, dungeon design nothing special.
plot slow but interesting, lol at sophie (kosmos\momo rip off?)
not bad, not bad.
i still don't understand a thing of the battle system but it's fun: robably i should set combat to semi auto o manual to learn things as the ai and quick battles don't help the process...
i have some problem also with the dodge system, half of the times asbel go in parry mode in place of dodging at ease...
loading could be better, music is ok, far better than the early preview imho.
art design interesting, town design nothing special, dungeon design nothing special.
plot slow but interesting, lol at sophie (kosmos\momo rip off?)
I'm one of those who plays Tales solely for the gameplay (none of the stories in the series did anything to me) so Graces is easily my favourite Tales game to date. By quite a margin too.
I'm in the same boat. I don't fully understand the battle system, but I'm slowly learning little things here and there as I play. I thought Sophie was fucking annoying in the child arc, my friend and I were making fun of her the whole time "Flowers?" "Love?" "Friends?" "Parents?" "Sadness?"...lol
-Pyromaniac-
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What would people consider to be a high level for the first time reaching Fendel? I need to know if I'm grinding too much or too little lol...
I know it depends on difficulty but just generally speaking..
I know it depends on difficulty but just generally speaking..
Chaos since basically the start of the game and I hit 50 on the way. It's probably overleveled but the fights are still worth a good amount of EXP (1k+ on some of them). Most my "grinding" has just been getting Soul Orbs or respawning an area for shinies for Carta cards.
chickdigger802
Banned
Mocapped rigs is one.
Better music IMO. Better dungeon/ world design.
Story in symphonia 2 is god awful though, so I'll give that to graces.
Mattakuevan
Member
So beat the main game last night and I have to say I'm a bit disappointed.
Ending Spoilers ENDING SPOILERS!:
Ending Spoilers ENDING SPOILERS!:
Wow was that an unfulfilling ending. It pretty much didn't resolve anything for any of the characters. I understand that there's still lineage & legacies, but damn people must have been pissed at the original release.
Also, damn Lambda's VA was terrible in the ending. It might have been some of the worst I've ever heard. He single handedly ruined that part of the ending.
Also, damn Lambda's VA was terrible in the ending. It might have been some of the worst I've ever heard. He single handedly ruined that part of the ending.
Parts of Graces is mocapped as well I thought.
And better music, eh, I did like the new tracks, but a lot of it is remixed Phantasia/Symphonia tracks.
-Pyromaniac-
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Well, the mocapping is most certainly more noticeable in ToS-R since everyone is shaking their heads as if it's right before falling off the shoulder. I personally found that awful if funny.
chickdigger802
Banned
Yeah. I believe when the dialogue does not have the text bubbles = that. But still nothing really happens during those sequences. All the 'action' usually transpires with some out of place anime sequence. And when I mean out of place I mean that the VA sound completely different! Different studio?
BassForever
Member
Just beat
Enjoying the hell out of this game
Kurt, had to drop the game down to Hard and I still barely beat him
Koroviev
Member
Ending spoilers:
They... weren't? In fact this is the first time I've seen someone complaining about the ending specifically. A lot of people said the story was too generic and whatnot, and most people agree it's fairly typical of the genre for better or for worse, but no, you're really the first person I've seen who thought the ending was unsatisfying. Other than that very last scene with the book, which is pretty puzzling before the extra chapter, I liked it personally. Not as much as the postgame chapter's, but I didn't have any issues with the game ending on it in the Wii version.
Though I didn't have to put up with the dub at least. Lambda's voice in Japanese is pretty much spot on. Part of me is curious how bad it can be.
Though I didn't have to put up with the dub at least. Lambda's voice in Japanese is pretty much spot on. Part of me is curious how bad it can be.
Mattakuevan
Member
Well, I just thought it was a very mediocre way to end a relatively mediocre story.
I still love the game to death, but the ending just felt off to me.
Awesome, ordered! Will cancel later in case I am no longer interested, but I really want to pledge my support for Vesperia.
Mattakuevan
Member
Does "f" resolve any of the many plot/character points left unresolved?
Lol, that's not different at all from the lines in game lol.
Anyway I think the map in the game could be a lot better. I mean world map exploration is similar to ffx before calm lands, seeing the early pics of graces I was hoping for a dq8 like approach
First Strike is surprisingly well done. Well worth it!
aliencowz7
Member
Just beat the main story arc final boss last night on evil with my party at 71, Let me just say that he is a gigantic cheesy douchebag, particularly when he gets low hp.
Yeah. The "enemy" didn't make too much sense, but it's good. The picture quality and animation are excellent.
BassForever
Member
Playing Carta Card on hard to unlock the costume
*starts game*
*computer grabs first card before I can even think*
*gets on gaf to wait til I lose*
*repeat*
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*starts game*
*computer grabs first card before I can even think*
*gets on gaf to wait til I lose*
*repeat*
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
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Just bought Tales of Vesperia (Xbox 360), Tales of the Abyss (3DS), and Tales of Graces f (PS3). So much JRPG goodness.
Say Goodbye to my non-existent social life.
You, sir, have improved your quality of life ten fold.
Mattakuevan
Member
Oh god, the last 10% might have taken me almost as long as the rest of the fight.
You can pause the game as soon as the quote is said if you need the time to think / remember what that character looked like.
BassForever
Member
It's mostly the Swordians that screw me over, I played Destiny PSX but those 5 pictures are from the Remake version, so I don't recognize them at all
LOL Start spam made this a joke thanks
LOL Start spam made this a joke thanks
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Did they put another trailer up? -_-
No, I agree with you with regards to Xillia's narrative flow:
they really should have told the player that you should've done Jude's side first. I did Jude's side first, but I recall a lot of people saying in the OT that since they picked Milla's side first, they had no idea what was going on in the narrative until they picked Jude's side, which is quite unfortunate and somewhat odd storytelling. And then doing Milla's side for myself and seeing that there were plotholes, I just thought they should've had the player do it from the perspective of Jude first and then have Milla's side as an unlockable. If they wanted more than one protagonist, something like the Trinity Sight System from Genso Suikoden III would have been more favourable to the narrative. Instead, the storytelling is a bit of a mess if the player picks the wrong choice.
Either way, they could have picked a better way of telling the story from both perspectives, I guess.
Either way, they could have picked a better way of telling the story from both perspectives, I guess.
And I'm mostly poking fun at Xillia. Even though I like it, I just don't like some of the things it did with the gameplay (in terms of streamlining or a lack of skills balancing in some parts) or environment design (save for towns). kayos likes Xillia more than I do but he's trying not to show it!
Lambda's voice in the JP version is pretty badass.
I don't know who did it in the English version, but from what I've seen, it kinda... well... it's not as good, to put it lightly.
I don't know who did it in the English version, but from what I've seen, it kinda... well... it's not as good, to put it lightly.
In class I'll post when I get back
Well naturally I'm not going to tell you the story was anything amazing (for some reason I seem to like it more every time I play through the game, but the first time I played it back on the Wii I was pretty disappointed overall), but I still liked the ending.
Curious, what points did you feel were unresolved?
Ending:
Yeah I looked it up on Youtube and... no. For some reason in my mind I can't help but picture a moustached Disney villain talking. "Work together? REEEEEEALLY?" I loved his Japanese voice.
Also I was one of those people who picked Mira first and really wished there was some kind of 'Recommended for your first time' note on Jude's. But after playing both routes and doing all the subquests I don't really hold it against the game. It was annoying though.
Man, some of the invisible wall/cut off points early in the game are starting to bother me. I've been trying to farm enemies until I earn their Soul Orbs before moving on with the game. There was a moment where I didn't save for awhile and I walked out of a particular dungeon and now I can't go back into it. I'm sure you can explore old areas by the end/post game, but the little speech "I can't go here right now" bubbles are a bit excessive at times.
I understand that you are constantly on the run from the Dukes of Whatever Houses, but why design the fields and flow of the game like this if you are going to have to put up move-location barriers at practically every intersection? At least the battle system continues to be everything it was made out to be.
I just got Pascal too and she is super annoying. Not Feather-Folk SO4 bad, but still unarguably obnoxious. Oh, I do like how a lot of character specific Titles in this game are tied to other game elements like talking to NPCs, finding treasure chests, filling up the monster books. I noticed Pascal has treasure chest related titles and she kind of has that spelunker/treasure thief-kinda look to her. I know previous Tales games have done shit like this before, but it's still a neat idea in general.
I understand that you are constantly on the run from the Dukes of Whatever Houses, but why design the fields and flow of the game like this if you are going to have to put up move-location barriers at practically every intersection? At least the battle system continues to be everything it was made out to be.
I just got Pascal too and she is super annoying. Not Feather-Folk SO4 bad, but still unarguably obnoxious. Oh, I do like how a lot of character specific Titles in this game are tied to other game elements like talking to NPCs, finding treasure chests, filling up the monster books. I noticed Pascal has treasure chest related titles and she kind of has that spelunker/treasure thief-kinda look to her. I know previous Tales games have done shit like this before, but it's still a neat idea in general.