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Tales of Series | Community Thread | Localizing more games than Square Enix
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BlakImpaler
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So... why do we want Xillia 2 again? No Ludger voice, reused assets, having to pay off a debt to the mafia. This game just doesn't sound appealing to me other than the ridiculousness of Ludger being an entire army in combat.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
It's more balanced than Xillia 1 and the story's actually pretty good so far. Probably one of the best Tales stories in the series.
Other than that, yeah, it's got major pacing problems. The trophies are more or less the same as Xillia 1's only you have to do the actions 450 times vs 150 or so.
I know a few people who say the story in Xillia 2 is better than the first, despite some of those issues. Not sure about battle gameplay differences though.
RPGCrazied
Member
Does Xillia 2 have more side quests?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
As I posted before, everyone's speed/physics got nerfed. This is for the best in terms of balancing the game properly and not making everyone broken.
Though, ah, you certainly can break the game and reap the EXP bonuses for it still, lol. The same ways as you did in Xillia 1, and Ludger's got a neat exploit with his firearms for certain enemies, too.
I'm not a very big fan of the sidequests, really. I never liked those sorts of sidequests in RPGs (ex: kill these, get these, etc.).
Though, ah, you certainly can break the game and reap the EXP bonuses for it still, lol. The same ways as you did in Xillia 1, and Ludger's got a neat exploit with his firearms for certain enemies, too.
It's how you can pay the debt off. Giganto monster hunting, too.
I'm not a very big fan of the sidequests, really. I never liked those sorts of sidequests in RPGs (ex: kill these, get these, etc.).
BlakImpaler
Member
Urk. Damn that's saying a lot.
They should've tried the silent protagonist gimmick in Graces f. I probably would've been fine with it.
It has a lot of the same kind of quests from Xillia that I personally don't like very much at all, but despite that it also has a much greater volume and variety of optional content than Xillia.
When you put it like this, it sounds really bad. But the game is good, definitely an improvement over Xillia 1. The debt thing isn't that much of a problem after a while. You'll get the minimum for going to the next chapter very easily.
They tweaked some parts of the gameplay, like removing the need to save materials, streamlining the quest system and such. The character episodes are a pretty nice change of pace too. You could say the game is simply tighter than X1.
I'd say the story is fairly good and engaging for a Tales game, it has quite a few moments that'll definitely get a reaction from you.
Also, the added development for the old cast is very welcome and the new cast blends pretty well too, save for Ludger (which is kind of a mixed bag because of the silent thing).
Overall, I honestly enjoyed 2 more than 1.
Oh, but people who didn't play 1 and think "well then, might as well skip Xillia 1!" upon reading this: forget about it, your appreciation of 2 greatly depends of how much you know about 1's lore and characters.
BlakImpaler
Member
Well I feel a little relieved now that I've been called out for being a little harsh
The things I listed were most of the concerns I saw with the game. If it ever does come out here I'm sure I can enjoy... even if getting used to Ludger kills me.
Mind sharing that firearm exploit?
I NEVER use them unless I absolutely have to. I found one boss fight back in like chapter 6 to be annoying due to the weakness being guns.
Anyway, Xilia 2 is really good despite the problems. I will say that until chapter 7 I was getting pretty bored. Then Chapter 7 was really good and it kept getting better afterward. Up to the intermission before chapter 12, chapter 11 was insanely good (and sad
).I haven't finished a Tales game since Symphonia. So really just Phantasia, Destiny and Symphonia.
I have Abyss for 3DS and I'm considering it, but the load times seem annoying. I would like to play Vesperia but I no longer have a 360. Recommendations? I did love all three games I finished.
I have Abyss for 3DS and I'm considering it, but the load times seem annoying. I would like to play Vesperia but I no longer have a 360. Recommendations? I did love all three games I finished.
Mind sharing that firearm exploit?
I NEVER use them unless I absolutely have to. I found one boss fight back in like chapter 6 to be annoying due to the weakness being guns.
Anyway, Xilia 2 is really good despite the problems. I will say that until chapter 7 I was getting pretty bored. Then Chapter 7 was really good and it kept getting better afterward. Up to the intermission before chapter 12, chapter 11 was insanely good (and sad
Yeah it starts a bit slowly, Chapter 7 is definitely where it picks up, and then it doesn't really stops. Chapter 11&12 are the big highlights for me. Chapter 12 is the one where you (don't read people, you'll regret it)
kill alternate future Ludger
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I'm in the minority when it comes to Xillia 2's pacing, then. I really, really don't like how the game's structure and design was handled at all. It's got some good stuff in there, but the manner in which it was stitched is less than stellar and makes for poor pacing.
And you can still pull off the same nonsense you could in Xillia 1 with Rowen in Xillia 2.
Additionally, you can do 3-combo + Negative Holder / (Xillia skill spoilers)
with Milla, too.
Here.Mind sharing that firearm exploit?
I NEVER use them unless I absolutely have to. I found one boss fight back in like chapter 6 to be annoying due to the weakness being guns.
Anyway, Xilia 2 is really good despite the problems. I will say that until chapter 7 I was getting pretty bored. Then Chapter 7 was really good and it kept getting better afterward. Up to the intermission before chapter 12, chapter 11 was insanely good (and sad
And you can still pull off the same nonsense you could in Xillia 1 with Rowen in Xillia 2.
Additionally, you can do 3-combo + Negative Holder / (Xillia skill spoilers)
Sylph / Undine spam
AzureSkies
Member
How is Xillia's storyline compared to Vesperia?
Because honestly, as much as I love Vesperia's characters and the game itself the storyline completely fell apart after
. I thought it would get back together, but it's getting more and more crazy towards the end when
. (I just got to this part an hour ago)
I'm really hoping that the story's going to get better towards the end, but it's really not looking that way.
Because honestly, as much as I love Vesperia's characters and the game itself the storyline completely fell apart after
Yuri decided to murder the unjust
it's revealed that Raven is actually Captain Schwann
I'm really hoping that the story's going to get better towards the end, but it's really not looking that way.
Here's my review for Xillia 2: http://www.rpgsite.net/reviews/422-tales-of-xillia-2-import-review
I think i'm one of the few people who enjoyed the game a lot despite it's shortcomings. I had a great time fiddling with the Aerosal Orb, the various character quests, etc. Some of the problems it has are removing real-time party member swaps, in-field party member swaps, horrible party combinations, tremendously terrible bosses on hard mode, and the silent Ludger.
I think i'm one of the few people who enjoyed the game a lot despite it's shortcomings. I had a great time fiddling with the Aerosal Orb, the various character quests, etc. Some of the problems it has are removing real-time party member swaps, in-field party member swaps, horrible party combinations, tremendously terrible bosses on hard mode, and the silent Ludger.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Did anyone else hate tales of graces battle system? I still haven't finished the game its not gripping me at all tbh
I'm a tales fan definitely with symphonia and abyss being by faves with eternia being really close (finished it 4 times lol) just with graces....nah can't do it :S whats Xillia' battle system like compared to graces?
I'm a tales fan definitely with symphonia and abyss being by faves with eternia being really close (finished it 4 times lol) just with graces....nah can't do it :S whats Xillia' battle system like compared to graces?
Some bosses are crazy cheap.
Oh hey Volt, Musee and FUCKING CHRONOS
@Cisce if you already think the story fell apart, you're gonna hate it later on. I thought the story was great until Act 3. Although Act 3's story is almost completely different, so maybe you'll like it?
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Jude's a pretty good healer, though!
Graces battle system is pretty awesome. I don't remember Xillia's system getting higher praise than Grace's in that department.
R_thanatos
Member
The story in xillia is clearly the good point of the game. but you need to see Both paths to understand properly everything.
True it's so striking because elle has a strong personality and she is there in the middle of the cast interracting with everyone ... they try the same with ludger and.... it doesn't work.
Story is great, better ( more balanced ) battle system with more option to cancel&dual skill , more characters ( after playing xillia 1 , you'll want to play as those characters ) and a Superb chunk of back story on everyone ... Also choices , choices !!!
Also screenshot option.
There is a lot of sidequests in xillia 2 , however not all of them are intresting.
i'd say xillia 1 has more sidequest that are intresting but xillia 1 while having less of them still has more intresting sidequest and character quest to do.
Jude was a much better healer in xillia 1.
Eh, I wouldn't say that. Playing only Jude is good enough IMO. However, Milla is a tad more confusing, you definitely need to play Jude after her.
True and really I didn't have trouble with the boss since all three would heal as necessary. However nothing beat Elise and/or Leia. As soon as someone dies, 2 seconds later they're back up.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
Idk man I just can't get to grips with it half the time I feel like I'm just mindlessly bashing the buttons in hope I win lol I don't feel in control but that's just me i guess :S
SatelliteOfLove
Member
It is a proud stallion, you must dominate it while respecting and working with it. Or something.
Think Fighting games.
R_thanatos
Member
I disagree .. some event flow much better if you've seen both paths .. And mila does have some excellent scenes like the split in ACT1 in the prison.
For me seeing both paths means to get everything properly.
The point of view of the spirits in ACT4 was also a nice touch . While jude path is required , i feel that mila path is as important to see than jude ... The character get much more complex in their motivations once you see both sides and not just jude path.
Is it really that hard to believe when they sort of did the same for Xillia 1?
Also https://twitter.com/kayos90/status/352794480207867904
It's definitely more mashy in Graces, but you can do some really cool stuff if you plan out combos.
Just depends on how you play it.
No one's going to bet against the obvious.
Woah, there's actually a community thread now? I really thought it'd never happen.
I never got around to asking this before, but we're still at zero rumors towards the next mainline Tales release, right? I don't expect anything to come out before late 2014/2015 but I've recently gotten curious. I'd be surprised if there was even a trailer shown at TGS this year.
I never got around to asking this before, but we're still at zero rumors towards the next mainline Tales release, right? I don't expect anything to come out before late 2014/2015 but I've recently gotten curious. I'd be surprised if there was even a trailer shown at TGS this year.
solid mike
Member
Xillia will be my first Tales game when it comes out. I'm really hoping I won't be disappointed because FFXIII left a bad aftertaste.
They already said they had no next gen plans and are currently focusing on PS3.
The next Tales game will probably be announced at the end of the year with a mid 2014 release date.
Jump Festa reveal, betting on it.
Granted, this was before ToSC was announced, but I do think we'll see at least one more game on PS3.
Granted, this was before ToSC was announced, but I do think we'll see at least one more game on PS3.
I'll be damned. I don't mind as long as we get the game, but I'm currently focus on Xillia.
Tales of Symphonia Chronicles confirmed to include both English and Japanese voice track.
Thanks
For a good majority of the people it definitely was not an obvious.
BlakImpaler
Member
Oooh I'm buying this now.
dakkumauji
Member
It's only fun when you lose the bet.
I guess either way I lose and win at the same time. Meh.
R_thanatos
Member
Dual audio is good news.
i'm happy , give me 720p & dual audio and i won't care much
i'm happy , give me 720p & dual audio and i won't care much
That would match up with the current cycle for announcements of mothership Tales games (alternating between Spring/Summer and December, with the exception of Hearts), so it's possible.
DR2K
Banned
...woo I guess.
R_thanatos
Member
Xillia 2 become 200% better after chapter 9 , it's almost incredible.