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Tales of Series | Community Thread | Localizing more games than Square Enix
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So I beat Xillia 2 a few days ago. Some general thoughts but I will spoiler just to be nice
Endings -
Dunno that I'll bother with the EX dungeon, but I do want to try and clear the debt and do the cameo battle (which I think I need to do the EX dungeon to grind for).
I'm gonna wait to play it in English before making a last call, but it was a really good game brought down by some strange design choices that I hope are ditched for the future. Tentatively I'd give it like a 8.5, definitely a top tier Tales game.
I finished the last two bosses on Normal. One because I just wanted to beat it. Two because they were fucking hard and unfair.
Endings -
i thought both endings kinda sucked. Tales really needs to expand their endings, one measly cutscene is not enough honestly. At least Vesperia showed pictures of what characters did afterward, most don't even have that much. I want to show if, say, Milla left again or if she stayed with Jude (I'm guessing no but eh).
Dunno that I'll bother with the EX dungeon, but I do want to try and clear the debt and do the cameo battle (which I think I need to do the EX dungeon to grind for).
I'm gonna wait to play it in English before making a last call, but it was a really good game brought down by some strange design choices that I hope are ditched for the future. Tentatively I'd give it like a 8.5, definitely a top tier Tales game.
Actually Keroro RPG is heavily based on Hearts DS (which makes Hearts Vita's departure from the original the more curious).
Their list of games on their own site: http://www.7thchord.co.jp/page/service.html
Didn't realize they are that young (established in July 2008, Keroro RPG was released mere 20 months later). In any case their grasp of battle system mechanics is the best outside of Tatsuro Udo so I hope they get to do an original Tales game sometime.
Oh yes you're completely right, don't know why I said Narikiri X instead of Hearts (but isn't Narikiri X itself some kind of rehash of Hearts ?)
NDX is similar to Hearts in terms of graphical style and battle system, yes ^^
Oh? Nothing since Hearts R? All teams going ham on for Tempest R? q:
Oh? Nothing since Hearts R? All teams going ham on for Tempest R? q:
Not really, it shared some staff (being the last ever 2D Tales game ;_; ) but the battle system is quite different.
2D aerial friendly battle system that doesn't use TP. I would call them similar at that level
If you put it that way, yes. But "a system not using TP" and "aerial friendly" has been very common in the last couple Tales games, and the unique part about NDX is the application of Symphonia's shared gauge bar on the CC/EG system as well as the extensive costume/job/class system have no counterparts in Hearts DS.
I agree. I personally think that aerial is somewhat superfluous in 3D as originally it was a mean to add an additional movement vector in the limiting 2D plane while in 3D this movement flexibility was essentially already covered by free run, combined with which it tend to add complexity that's more able to slow down the battles instead adding fun.
While I do think this is somewhat true, doing combos in the air adds more of a definite staggering and the ability to juggle off ground. There isn't that much of a difference but it does exist. It just has to be somewhat more meaningful.
It's okay, here's how I see the ending.
Milla visits Jude every other day to takes care of his needs and go on intimate dates.
Yeah, screw you Namco.
Saw this in my twitter feed
https://twitter.com/miladesn/status/357691824732782592
Tales of Zestoria, Tales of Creales, Tales of Catastora
Google them, you'll find Japanese boards are talking about them
AT LAST A NEW GAME IS NIGH
https://twitter.com/miladesn/status/357691824732782592
Tales of Zestoria, Tales of Creales, Tales of Catastora
Google them, you'll find Japanese boards are talking about them
AT LAST A NEW GAME IS NIGH
These sound particularly bad...but who cares.
I like Catastora the most out of those though.
Also, new thread?
I'm not exactly sure what this site is, but it's where I read about the info: http://anago.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1374110139/83
Credit to @miladesn
Credit to @miladesn
Ah, thanks, but it seems Soriku has made a thread ^.^
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=71219386&posted=1#post71219386
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=71219386&posted=1#post71219386
So I heard Hideo Baba wanted to stay on the PS3 for awhile longer before moving over to the PS4? Is this true because I will be a sad panda.
Welp, guess we won't see glorious next gen Tales for awhile. Makes sense though, gotta wait for the number of PS4 owners to increase.
Finished Xillia 2 just now and got only 2 of the endings so far. My opinion's probably going to be different from others but here's what I thought about the ending. Don't highlight obviously if you haven't beaten it.
I know a lot of people didn't like Ludger being silent, but I didn't mind it so much later on. IMO, they did a pretty good job for making a silent protag actually feel important and that you can understand how Ludger was feeling in certain events unlike some games. Less was more for me. Of course, I wouldn't want another silent lead in a Tales game.
Overall, I thought the game was great. Being a sequel really helped in a lot of ways, including the strength of the cast. They already developed so they didn't have to go through those stages most JRPG characters go through. The battle system is the best as far as a 3D Symphonia-styled battle system goes. Having less of a linear path in a Tales game was actually pretty interesting.
The only issue I have with ToX2 are mostly issues that retained from Xillia 1 along with other things. OL being tied to linking is really dumb. Ruins solo stuff and hinders some enjoyment if 4 people wanted to play the game. Recycled content was slightly annoying for the field areas. Debt system was interesting but slightly annoying when I just wanted to see the next main chapter.
Gonna let it sit before truly judging ToX2. I liked it more than the first Xillia though (which I also enjoyed). The battle system is one of my favorites. They just need to fix linking, bosses, and make it more multiplayer friendly. Destiny PS2 still reigns as my favorite battle system. I don't know what to think about the ending quite yet. It was good but lacked that extra punch to make it even more emotional, but still pretty good for Tales. Abyss still has my favorite ending though, even though that game isn't even close to being one of my favorites lol.
ToX2 experimented a lot more than I thought it would've. Making the story a lot darker was neat. Also a bit surprised that they're willing to make so many button combinations. I hope they stick with it. Side stepping, aerial combos and "otg", and of course the returning Artes Ball was good.
Normal Ending - A little short, but not too bad. It's sad to sacrifice Elle after all that time you spend with her. The very end scene was nice though with Ludger shedding tears after seeing who will be Elle's mom.
True Ending - Another sad ending, but good that you actually get to save this Elle. I actually thought it was a nice bittersweet ending. What Ludger fought for didn't go to waste, even if he had to sacrifice himself. Also nice to see Elle older and how her personality is now.
As for the endings not going into detail of the ToX1 cast, I didn't mind at all. You can pretty much guess how they continued to live their lives, and Elle did keep in touch with them too. Their story's already been told. I didn't need a Graces f type ending where they had to explain almost everything. Every ending was rather sad in a way, but it was nice being different from other Tales.
True Ending - Another sad ending, but good that you actually get to save this Elle. I actually thought it was a nice bittersweet ending. What Ludger fought for didn't go to waste, even if he had to sacrifice himself. Also nice to see Elle older and how her personality is now.
As for the endings not going into detail of the ToX1 cast, I didn't mind at all. You can pretty much guess how they continued to live their lives, and Elle did keep in touch with them too. Their story's already been told. I didn't need a Graces f type ending where they had to explain almost everything. Every ending was rather sad in a way, but it was nice being different from other Tales.
I know a lot of people didn't like Ludger being silent, but I didn't mind it so much later on. IMO, they did a pretty good job for making a silent protag actually feel important and that you can understand how Ludger was feeling in certain events unlike some games. Less was more for me. Of course, I wouldn't want another silent lead in a Tales game.
Overall, I thought the game was great. Being a sequel really helped in a lot of ways, including the strength of the cast. They already developed so they didn't have to go through those stages most JRPG characters go through. The battle system is the best as far as a 3D Symphonia-styled battle system goes. Having less of a linear path in a Tales game was actually pretty interesting.
The only issue I have with ToX2 are mostly issues that retained from Xillia 1 along with other things. OL being tied to linking is really dumb. Ruins solo stuff and hinders some enjoyment if 4 people wanted to play the game. Recycled content was slightly annoying for the field areas. Debt system was interesting but slightly annoying when I just wanted to see the next main chapter.
Gonna let it sit before truly judging ToX2. I liked it more than the first Xillia though (which I also enjoyed). The battle system is one of my favorites. They just need to fix linking, bosses, and make it more multiplayer friendly. Destiny PS2 still reigns as my favorite battle system. I don't know what to think about the ending quite yet. It was good but lacked that extra punch to make it even more emotional, but still pretty good for Tales. Abyss still has my favorite ending though, even though that game isn't even close to being one of my favorites lol.
ToX2 experimented a lot more than I thought it would've. Making the story a lot darker was neat. Also a bit surprised that they're willing to make so many button combinations. I hope they stick with it. Side stepping, aerial combos and "otg", and of course the returning Artes Ball was good.
If those are the only titles you've played, I think you can expect it being between Graces and Symphonia. You'll like Symphonia more most likely but Xillia's still a lot of fun. Pretty fun battle system and the story pacing is decent at the start nor does it drag on.
Just had this emailed to me about my Xillia Collectors edition (EU)
Dear Ben,
Your Tales of Xillia: Milla Maxwell Collector's Edition is now available!
We shall proceed to the shipping and debit of your order according to the information that you have provided us.
And the rest is usual invoices gumf. Still, that sounds early. Be nice if it ships out now!
Dear Ben,
Your Tales of Xillia: Milla Maxwell Collector's Edition is now available!
We shall proceed to the shipping and debit of your order according to the information that you have provided us.
And the rest is usual invoices gumf. Still, that sounds early. Be nice if it ships out now!
irriducibile87
Member
Received the same email, they even charged my credit card.
Normally means they're about to ship then. Thats like 3 weeks early. Neat!
rocketskates
Member
less than 3 weeks, cant wait.
ive been replaying tales of the abyss on the 3DS to kill the time, i forgot how funny this game was.
ive been replaying tales of the abyss on the 3DS to kill the time, i forgot how funny this game was.
irriducibile87
Member
So they are still shipping the first week of August
I hoped they were shipping early.
So they are still shipping the first week of August
I hoped they were shipping early.
I'm hoping it means my worry (that it won't get here til later than the release date) won't happen then if they are preparing things now.
irriducibile87
Member
Yeah I agree. They are preparing the orders three weeks earlier so I really think we will get them in time for the 8th and not later.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Yes! Got my confirmation email and invoice now to await for the game =D, for those who played Xillia already, did you like starting off with Jude or Milla?
I started off with Jude myself and most will tell you to start with Jude first for story reasons.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Oh good lol was leaning to Jude having not played a martial artist Tales character in a while =D
Start off with Jude. Jude's side feels a bit more "whole" compared to Milla's, whatever that means.
Started with Milla in my JPN playthrough. Go with Jude. You'll be less confused.
This EX dungeon in Xillia 2 is a real pain. But at least getting costumes is a lot easier compared to getting Narikiri Dolls in Destiny (although that was really worth it).
I didn't realize Xillia's release date is so soon. Guess I'll be revisiting these maps sooner than I thought.
I didn't realize Xillia's release date is so soon. Guess I'll be revisiting these maps sooner than I thought.
I probably won't bother, but I did look up the prizes list and
having a Julius costume kind of takes the sting out of him not being playable.
RPGCrazied
Member
Any videos of English Tipo?
Cornbread78
Member
OK, I haven't complained in awhile, any signs that they will localize the already translated Tales VITA games in JPN (HRTS/Innosc)
Yes. It's in the 1 hour Xillia gameplay video. Sounds like a dude.
A super deep voice?
clay_ghost
Member
Has the digital per order for TOX started in the US PSN ? I can't buy the physical copy because my disc drive died I want the DLC too.
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I want the DLC too..
RPGCrazied
Member
I thought it was all in German?