Makoto Yuki
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Lol, I thought I was watching somekind of movie trailer. Totally expecting the narrator to go "Rated PG-13" or something at the end.
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Tales of Symphonia Chronicles |OT| 60FPS? I lied. Its actually 30FPS
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Lol, I thought I was watching somekind of movie trailer. Totally expecting the narrator to go "Rated PG-13" or something at the end.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I dunno if that is possible considering the box is quite... like a box. Would not be able to fit that into a bubble mailer.
RPGCrazied
Member
The fact it runs 720p its already better than the gamecube version, aside for the framerate, not to mention it runs in widescreen. Sure some of the textures could have been redrawn, but it should look vastly better on an HD TV than the gamecube version, component cables or not.
Don't tell Aeana that :x
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Well, blowing up the Gamecube/PS2 textures wouldn't result in a better looking game would it?
RPGCrazied
Member
I guess, but I'd rather play it with a few blurry textures, then massive jaggies, which is what you'd get by playing a 480p game on an HD TV. See most Wii games.
It's more cohesive than Vesperia's I think, but more generic/basic and a little stretched out. It doesn't have overly stupid plot twists like Abyss (although it does have plot twists), and it is better than Graces in probably every regard.
It's serviceable.
foobarry81
Member
I can't help but feel that the CEs, both the EU and the US ones, are terribly overpriced for what they're offering.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
Yeah, I guess so. Still pretty damn inexcusable in my opinion.
RPGCrazied
Member
Don't know about that, not that I'm going to resell any of those, I hear the chibi figures alone can resell for $60 - $80.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2 and I believe it was equal to the Xbox. GC is the last console that Nintendo went all out on from a technical standpoint.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon tries to stuff it into a bubble mailer, then when the envelope tears apart, just shrug it off and tape the remains to the sides of the box and ship it out.
Vane_MagicCity
Banned
The Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2 but not the Xbox. I believe the Gamecube had a 485 Mhz CPU and the Xbox had a 700 Mhz CPU. I think the Xbox had a better GPU as well but I am not certain.
I'm not a fan of the PAL font they're using for the HD collection either, and although I liked the original NA font it only looked right on a smaller resolution.
And then "oh well looks like the item's out of stock, here's some credit". Which is pretty awesome, but they could improve their shipping to make sure collector/limited edition stuff could at least get better packaging. :/ I've received HDMI cables that was better packaged from them.
And then "oh well looks like the item's out of stock, here's some credit". Which is pretty awesome, but they could improve their shipping to make sure collector/limited edition stuff could at least get better packaging. :/ I've received HDMI cables that was better packaged from them.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
In all seriousness, I've only ordered one collector's edition from them in the past, and it was a larger box. It arrived in a box loaded up with air packets, so it was in pretty pristine condition. I've been hearing about the experiences that others have been having lately, especially with the Bravely Default collector's edition, though, and I think that it's a big strange that they've been doing so poorly in this department. They are usually pretty good on service, but oh well, I guess things change.
considered giving up my CE at amazon... but it looks like it is actually fairly limited.
Hopefully it comes in better shape than my Bravely Default CE (friggin bubble mailer..... really amazon?!?!?! I mean not hideous... but a bubble mailer for a boxed product WILL end up with some damage, in this case two knicks. assholes.)
blowing up? No. Better filtering. Probably a tiny bit.
Hopefully it comes in better shape than my Bravely Default CE (friggin bubble mailer..... really amazon?!?!?! I mean not hideous... but a bubble mailer for a boxed product WILL end up with some damage, in this case two knicks. assholes.)
blowing up? No. Better filtering. Probably a tiny bit.
Yeah I've ordered many CE's/LE's from them and every once in awhile they somehow ship in a bubble mailer instead.
foobarry81
Member
Liferebooted
Banned
Amazon was great with my Tales of Xilla and Bravely Default CE. They were both shipped in oversized boxes with lots of bubble wrap.. However my normal games are always in bubble envelopes.
Madrugador
Member
WTF, 30 FPS? I played ToS at 60 FPS on my GC years ago.
Not cool Scamco
Not cool Scamco
Impeccable
Member
Argh, so torn on whether or not to get this is with how much time I have to play games.
I started with Graces F, loved it. Played Xillia, enjoyed it. Never played these games in the past. So on paper it should be a no-brainer. Maybe I'll wait and see how the trophy guides and stuff pan out.
I started with Graces F, loved it. Played Xillia, enjoyed it. Never played these games in the past. So on paper it should be a no-brainer. Maybe I'll wait and see how the trophy guides and stuff pan out.
Yes, my backlog is so big at the moment trophies can impact what I choose to buy.
Reluctant-Hero
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I cancelled my Amazon CE as Club Namco shipped the CE before I could cancel it instead. So keep yours eyes on the Amazon page.
WTF, 30 FPS? I played ToS at 60 FPS on my GC years ago.
Not cool Scamco
Hopefully when more reviews come out reviewers will highlight that as a con.
Gillian Seed
Banned
How bad does 30fps make combat in this? I mean was Xillia 60fps? I loved Vesperia and Xillia, and never checked this it out when I had my Gamecube.
Are those official numbers? 10k is quite a low number, I'm glad I managed to procure one (some, just in case they cancel the other) in that case.
Hmm, I have two CEs ordered myself. One at Amazon and one at Namco's store. Haven't gotten any shipment notification from either. I'm also still trying to decide if I want to keep both or cancel one of them.
Good luck cancelling the one at the Namco store, lol. D:
Keep both. Sell the other when it gets more expensive.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Seriously. I sent my cancelation request on Wednesday. Then on Thursday CN/DR sent me an email saying they processed the cancelation and there shouldn't be an issue unless the item already shipped. WTF, they can't track orders to see what is shipped and what has not?! Finally, two hours later on Thursday, I get the shipping notice with UPS tracking number.
So yeah, don't order from a Digital River store unless you fully intend to have the order fulfilled. And don't try to cancel one of their orders six days until it's official release date.
ummm.. wut? 30fps locked is still 100% playable. It's disappointing yes, but it doesn't magically make the gameplay bad.
foobarry81
Member
US CE, not really.
The Tales Of Symphonia soundtrack is OOP in Japan and was around 3800 Yen (==$37) and it seems that the US CE contains exactly those discs.
I would be happy, if more games included the full soundtrack, because that will actually save me money.
Spent $40 on the Xenoblade OST, $52 on Tales Of Graces OST, $22+$22+$28=$72 on NieR OST, $27+$42=$69 on Fragile Dreams OST
GreatMightySymp
Member
I know GameStop went overboard (in a good way) when my Zelda WW statue version was shipped by them. One of the few times there wasn't a issue with CE's (well, that and Ni no Kuni's was shipped right). Even my LE Danganronpa had a small issue due to the form-fitting packaging that was used.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Swiss or Cheddar?
Monterey Jack.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
That's acceptable. If you said American, particularly the Kraft kind, I may have barfed.
Gillian Seed
Banned
That's what I figured since most games are 30fps anyway. It just seems that everyone is making it sound like its a deal breaker since the Gamecube version was 60fps.
foobarry81
Member
Ok, but that artbook is a joke. Even the artbook in the European Tales of Xillia CE was way better, and that says a lot.
Importing the US CE would cost 72 (the $99) + shipping + at least 15 VAT (unless you succeed in 'evading' the latter), so probably around 95-100.
So that would still be over 65 for everything but the OST. I guess if you value the chibi figurines a lot too...
Anyway, I got in on the £39.99 Amazon UK thing myself. Didn't even find that that great a deal.
With Japanese games that is always going to be a problem. There are lots of intellectual rights issues around game soundtracks over there it seems. So I guess that's why publishers might avoid getting the OSTs in, or add some of that half hearted stuff in like the OST samplers and stuff.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
just sent a cancellation request for my CE. the things they changed in our version is just too much of a piss take and I can get the game itself on PSN for 25 so I think i'll be doing that instead....as long as i can cancel of course
leonemesis
Member
I'm glad I managed to pre-order the US CE. While I agree the artbook is underwhelming, I'm not too bothered by it because the novel is still there and is hardcover as promised. Add up the awesome steelbook and manual, I'm good.
They should have made the artbook and novel into a single hardcover book but I'm guessing they probably re-used assets of the japanese lalabit market edition, minimizing costs.
They should have made the artbook and novel into a single hardcover book but I'm guessing they probably re-used assets of the japanese lalabit market edition, minimizing costs.
Ok, but that artbook is a joke. Even the artbook in the European Tales of Xillia CE was way better, and that says a lot.
Yes, that's the only fault of the US CE.
My order is 97EUR.
BUT you have to consider - folks in US don't pay $33 extra b/c no VAT and no international shipping.
It's 72EUR/$100 total. You can't even use the original OST price ($37) because the OST is OOP. You can't get it anymore/pay insane prices on ebay. Even if you could still get it for $37, you would still have to pay for shipping. The game(s) is 40EUR/40$. Which is again a rip-off for Europe. Even if you use the original OST price, there are $23 left. $23 left for some nice figurines, the steelbook, the novel and the packaging? I can't complain.
The European CE is obviously overpriced though
I paid 100EUR for the (shitty) Metal Gear Solid 4 LE. Compared to that it's totally fine.
I rather think they are being cheap and know that fans will import the soundtrack from Japan. Fragile Dreams for example had a sampler included as preorder bonus, but only for US. And that one included the 2 songs by Teshima Aoi, so it can't be that complicated. btw. they didn't include those 2 songs on the official 2-disc OST. Instead fans had either buy the single, which was OOP pretty fast - or wait for her collection album to get released ("Collection Blue").
Not for who its primarily being sold too, and it looks to be actually limited.
foobarry81
Member
Yeah, okay, but I looked to it from the perspective of a European importing of course. Would Namco release the same CE in Europe as the US got, they would likely charge €99 or more for it, which would make it overpriced again for us.
Following your reasoning, for Americans it may not be as bad a deal provided you really want that soundtrack or maybe the figurines.
But all in all, I'm not impressed with these CEs. Maybe I'm still a bit sour over the previous Tales CEs I got...
Them being cheap is plausible too, but from what I've seen with the Class of Heroes 2 release last year, the rights seem to be a complicated matter in Japan.
They are limited, but 10,000 and 18,000 are fairly large numbers still. Anyway, better this way than the stunt Namco pulled with Ni no Kuni's Wizard's Edition in the US.
The US CE is $100. When I add 20% VAT to that, I get 85/86EUR. Which is 6EUR more than the current price of the European CE.
But sure, maybe they would have changed that to 100EUR. Would still be more acceptable, than the crap that they sell us for 80EUR.
JennyTablina
Member
Well yes, Fans will see more value in a CE than those not really interested.
But even I feel like the EU CE is a bit much. The US one is fair enough, the EU one feels like it's a lot for what amounts to some chibi figures (that I can't really see holding much value) a dinky artbook and not even a full OST.
I kind of wanted it for the figures, I could of excused the price maybe if the port was a top-notch effort. But this thread is suggesting the port is kinda half-hearted. Maybe not bad...but, that's also not helping. Likely gonna cancel my order and just get it digital.