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Tales of Symphonia Chronicles |OT| 60FPS? I lied. Its actually 30FPS
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TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
30fps? Wha?!
Anyway, didn't realize how blurry the GC was!
Anyway, didn't realize how blurry the GC was!
wth
I hope they won't pull that stunt for international packages as well. :/
/me slightly worried
I thought Richter was great.
I think the best way I've found to describe it is that your party and the enemies are positioned on a 3D plane, but it draws a line between you and the enemy you are targeting, so that you can only move along that line.
The combat itself is kind of like other Namco fighters. Specifically it reminds me of a simplified Soul Calibur.
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Tales of Symphonia is one of my favorite RPGs (I actually played through it again on Dolphin last year and it held up) but I'm kind of shocked at the incompetence of this port.
I'm on the fence about getting this. I've always thought the combat in Symphonia was pretty stiff, but maybe I should play it like the 2D games, not the later ones. People often say it's the best in the series, but maybe it's just nostalgia.
The 30FPS issue doesn't really bother me in this case, it's that or the slowed down, interlaced PAL version, and I managed to beat Abyss on 3DS.
The 30FPS issue doesn't really bother me in this case, it's that or the slowed down, interlaced PAL version, and I managed to beat Abyss on 3DS.
It's mostly nostalgia, and it honestly plays a lot like Eternia aside from looking 3D and having 3D Overworld so playing it like the 2D games is correct. It also has some of the better dungeons in the series (and a few of the worst, hello Ymir Forest), and the locales, despite being Phantasia remakes for the most part, are really cool and some of the better ones in the series.
30FPS isn't a huge deal gameplay wise considering Destiny 2 and Abyss's portable ports were 30FPS (I think Destiny 2 became 60 with a higher clock rate on the PSP), but it's highly disappointing and incompetent for an anniversary release of the "definitive" version.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Tales of Symphonia is one of my most played games of all time, I finished it so many times...
I would have bought it if it was 60fps, but I think it's better this way. I hope everyone that buys it enjoys it.
I would have bought it if it was 60fps, but I think it's better this way. I hope everyone that buys it enjoys it.
akidnamededdy
Banned
Not gonna pay again for a decade old game that "could've been a lot worse." Devs are getting lazier and lazier with these HD collections and I don't like it.
Still upset about SH Collection.
This aint as bad as SH. Wasnt the Xbox version an unplayable mess for some?
akidnamededdy
Banned
I know, I just wish devs would stop half-assing collections like this. At least this one has some neat trinkets with it, I guess.
The XBox version of the SH HD Collection, you mean? Both versions are kind of a travesty in several ways but I think one of them got patched to fix a FEW things...don't remember which one.
Ps3 version got fixes but I think the 360 fans had a free game from Konami cause the 360 version was an unfixable mess *BS*
Black Republican
Member
So in this version, did Sheena let Lloyd stab it? 
Wanna Avatar bet that?
It will do pretty well telling Namco we want more PS2 ports. Which means they're giving us Legendia HD and not ToD/ToR/ToD2.
Did you miss the wanted poster Lloyd picture on the first page about coffee?
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Tenebrae MADE that game.
Done. Name your terms.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I think I kinda prefer the thicker, black outline that the characters have in the GC version. It fits with their super-deformed look and flows with the sorta anime style. Almost made it look a bit cell-shaded.
With that said, PS3 version looks fine.
3 weeks and we have a deal.
Still gonna pick this up. Only got to play a little bit of Symphonia from Gamecube rental and never had the chance since. No 60fps is mind boggling though.
Didn't Symphonia have some sort of issues with Dolphin emulation? I remember trying it a few years back and the game ran smoothly but the sound was messed up and laggy and Googling told me it was unfixable. Can't play without good sound.
Didn't Symphonia have some sort of issues with Dolphin emulation? I remember trying it a few years back and the game ran smoothly but the sound was messed up and laggy and Googling told me it was unfixable. Can't play without good sound.
Nah.
Thread title killed me.
Sounds issues have been long resolved.
TOS2 actually benefits from Dolphin / Wii more so in the gameplay aspect, get those Codes to unlock the TOS1 cast for leveling. This PS3 rerelease still has them locked down to force you to play with monsters.
Sounds issues have been long resolved.
TOS2 actually benefits from Dolphin / Wii more so in the gameplay aspect, get those Codes to unlock the TOS1 cast for leveling. This PS3 rerelease still has them locked down to force you to play with monsters.
CaptainSchwann
Member
Didn't know about the whole fps issue. I'll have to check out the videos when I get home from class.
I'm expecting the worst
Not defending them going 30FPS but come on now anybody who has played the GC version knows there are many many time the game is running no where even close to 60FPS. The battle slow down during heavy spell use is insane. I might still take that over a locked 30FPS but I'll withhold judgment (hehe) till I play it myself. Glad I kept my GC version all these years though.
I think I'll wait for them to be released separately and get the first Symphonia when it eventually goes on sale. I don't feel like rewarding this effort.
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Have you played it recently? It only really lagged with stuff like Meteor Storm, Judgement + a high tier spell, any of the higher tier water spells, and certain Unison Attacks (Prism Stars mostly). I wouldn't say it was too crazy or anything. It was still 60FPS most of the time, plus on the overworld too. The slowdown was also not so slow that it was unbearable, sometimes it just lent itself to a cool slow down effect and not "oh my god the game can't handle this" like it does in Xillia sometimes.
The PS2 version was definitely not a locked 30FPS either from what I recall, but they fixed certain Unison Attacks up to be 30FPS (Prism Stars looks quick now). I heard they fixed this in the PS3 release so it may be better along with the better load times. The PS2 version had moments where it had worse loading than PS2 Abyss.
You can blame the PS2 port of Symphonia on the crappy PS2 Abyss loading btw.
Professor Beef
Banned
30 FPS? Cancelled my preorder. >:|
On Amazon, that is. Decided to go for the digital version instead.
Game always had weird out of focus elements. I'm not sure if the PS2 version kept with that; I'm assuming so.
PS2 made it worse actually. Really blurry textures and stuff. PS3 version is relatively improved in comparison.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
Member
Well there it is... my favourite thread title ever.
Amazing!
Not getting this until it hits bomba prices as I never did play the sequel but what I will do is dig my GC copy out at some point this week. OP has me all excited to go through this again.
Amazing!
Not getting this until it hits bomba prices as I never did play the sequel but what I will do is dig my GC copy out at some point this week. OP has me all excited to go through this again.
I have the imported ps2 version as well and it's terrible compared to the GC version but it's 30fps with slow down. Locked 30fps might not be too bad but to be fair no I have not played the gc version in several years now so maybe I remember it slowing down more often than it really did. Still excited to play this. Tales of symphonia is among my all time favorite games... hence owning both versions lol.
Yeah locked 30FPS and not taking years to load between battles/towns will help a lot. The PS2 version was seriously one of the worst ports I've personally played at the time. Still played the crap out of it because I had nothing else to play + high school summer.
Professor Beef
Banned
Yeah, I personally don't care about 30 FPS but I can completely understand the frustration people have. I just want to be able to play it again since I can't hook my GCube up to my monitor.
poopninjamvc3mk
I sucked six dicks to get this tag.
What was the framerate on Gamecube like? Never played Symphonia but always wanted to.