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Tales of Xillia |OT| - Teach me about Bazongas!
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Nope, doesn't matter. Use it how you want to. And yes, it can be eventually maxed.
Luckily he does'nt go BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE !
You mean unluckily.
Yeah, a goddamn shame. I wanted to see
Alvin make up with everyone in greater length. Alvin is fantastic.
Kagari, as good as you can tell me without spoiling it, what's Xillia 2's story about?
Is it a completely new story with most of the same old cast, same world(s) etc? I remember reading something like it being a "what-if" story, a different way Xillia's story could unfold or something? Honestly makes it sound maybe a bit boring, I can't see it offering any omg mind blown twists if it's pretty much the same stuff
AmaterasuOkami076
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Is that because
you unlock a second Lilium Orb and therefore it costs less to upgrade? I've just unlocked a second one for most of the characters but I haven't levelled up since. I didn't know if this was even worth a spoiler tag, thought I would anyway.
Why would you do that?
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That makes me a bit happy to hear because ever since I got Elize, I've been beating too many battles with her dead, including a boss, so she's one level behind now. Hopefully I can make her catch up, soon...
And here I thought Milla had bad defense...
Luckily he does'nt go BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE !
I haven't played Vesperia, but is that something as annoying as "Go, Teepo! Sharing is caring!"?
Yeah same here. Plus
the Gaius and Muzet partnership needs to be explored more. And then there's Elympios being so empty, though that's rectified in 2. As for the Xillia 2 storyline, it involves alternate worlds, so in some of them different things happened compared to what happens in Xillia 1.
The story is a continuation from Xillia 1 in that
Jude is trying to figure out how to get Spyrites working so the world doesn't have to rely on Spyrix which kills spirits. The research is going well. Ludger is the MC and he lives with his brother Julius but he ends up running into a weird girl named Elle and is pulled into alternate worlds. He's trying to discover the nature of the alternate worlds, his mysteriously awakened power, while trying to protect Elle from the many dangers of the world. That's the really really basic gist of it.
Elize has better survival than Rowen though. Rowen gets sneezed on (at least on Hard) and dies haha.
It takes place a year after the events of Xillia with a new main character, although he eventually encounters everyone from the original cast including playable Gaius and Muzet. It's definitely not a 'what-if' story although it does deal in alternate histories in a way. Basically these pockets of alternate timelines keep popping up all over the world and need to be destroyed. The main character is given this task and you're able to see certain parts of the world in different ways because of it. Xillia 2 begins in Elympios as well, so you'll be getting a lot more time with familiar and new areas there.
The story in Xillia 2 really isn't boring at all though. By allowing players to play as an all new character with some new NPCs tied to the story it works out well and it's definitely a more emotional story than Xillia since you'll be making a lot of choices that impact the outcome of the game.
The story in Xillia 2 really isn't boring at all though. By allowing players to play as an all new character with some new NPCs tied to the story it works out well and it's definitely a more emotional story than Xillia since you'll be making a lot of choices that impact the outcome of the game.
chickdigger802
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harem setup makes bosses tolerable for me (leia jude milla elize).
that spam of healing.
that spam of healing.
dakkumauji
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Elize is actually developed like a tank. She gets all the guarding related skills and has high defense and magic defense. Just not that much HP.
Rowen on the other hand has low HP and low defenses. Instead, he's basically your glass cannon.
AmaterasuOkami076
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Only if you exploit a broken character by spamming the hell out of it for infinite combos for late game GRADE farming. Otherwise you barely notice it.
"I am so gonna-- blah blah blah"Luckily he does'nt go BLAH BLAH BLAH TIDAL WAVE !
Shouta
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Yes, it's rushed but as a result, we get Xillia 2. In retrospect, I'm ok with where they left off for Xillia 1.
Yeah that too,
Muzet just went from calm and collected to a crazy, problem-ridden woman in a matter of hours. And then Gaius recruited her. And she got instantly better. And yes, I'm looking forward to seeing more of Elympios in X2.
You know, that actually sounds like the most interesting premise for a Tales of story so far lol. Maybe because I love
the concept of alternate worlds
Sure hope that "early 2014" I read somewhere was true, I'm already getting pretty goddamn pumped about the game!
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Choices and more emotional
YuriLowell
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Yeah Yuri was dope.
Yup, I haven't unlocked them yet but she has two skills that make everything do 1 damage as long as you guard. Sounds ridiculously broken. I should start playing as her, I never tried her before.
I love that the AI immediately casts Dispel as long as 2 people have an ailment. So awesome. They really should have given Leia Dispel, poor girl can't compete with Elize (though that's usually the case with single target healers, and I don't think Leia is really meant to be a main healer anyway, just back up).
As for Rowen, he's awesome but his damage output isn't as great against enemies with no weaknesses or no water or earth weaknesses. If the AI used tuning more he would be great against fire weak enemies too, Fireball is super strong when tuned.
That's another thing that suffered due to being cut.
There was supposed to be a part where you played as Gaius and Muzet but it was cut.
chickdigger802
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is tox2 a full fledge game or some weird thingy like tos2?
I'm not sure it was necessary to say it out loud with that username :lol
Aww you party pooper, I'm gonna stick with my optimism!
Well no matter, got to study in the city I wanted to so next year will go by in a flash
It's a full length game.
It's a mainline Tales with a usual Tales budget (well they probably cut a lot of corners with reusing but still).
There's optimism and then there's blind optimism. There's no way Xillia 2 is coming out before August 2014.
dakkumauji
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Good, gives me more than a year to clear my Asian copy.
Why would you do that?
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Darn, I didn't fight with him yet, now I'm not looking forward to it. lol. Maybe I can sway the table by purposely focusing on leveling up his HP.
The only thing that I'm worried about is, well, the longer it takes for Xillia 2 to come out, the less I think we're going to get the next Tales game (the unannounced Tales of Z). I don't know if they would bring it to America two years after the PS4 comes out and the PS3 generation ends...
YuriLowell
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Just wanted to make sure we are clear on the best JRPG main character.
Also does anyone else find it weird that the dialog bubbles are gone?
Which reminds me, I forgot to ask: is it as rushed and short as X1? I know most people prefer short games but with JRPGs, I really expect, and hope for, a massively long game. I can't remember exactly how long Vesperia or Abyss took me, but both should be around 60 hours for the first playthrough.
Now I have 38 hours logged in Xillia, of which probably 5 are idling, and I'm ready to enter the final dungeon. And I have done pretty much everything so far. Honestly a very disappointing length.
Rude! I'm not that optimistic, I'm also expecting Q3 release tbh
dakkumauji
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Honestly, playing as him was a lot better than playing with Malik from Graces. There's a lot less enemies targeting only the human controlled character in this game so it's a lot easier to actually use the mage. His physical moves aren't bad either. It's more of take care of watching his HP.
His tuning ability is also loads of fun and he gains a bunch of skills that really reduces his spell casting time.
Xillia 2 took me about 35 hours without doing many of the side quests iirc. The story definitely didn't feel rushed. To me, it seemed they had more time to focus on the characters this time since most of the world was already built.
Sorry. Not trying to be rude.
chickdigger802
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tales games shouldn't be over 40 hours.
jrpgs shouldn't be over 40 hours unless they can sustain it in terms of story and skill progression.
maybe i'm just getting old and cranky (even though im 23), but my tolerance for 'padding' is getting quite low :S
i'd probably think more highly of most tales games if they ended about 20 hours earlier.
jrpgs shouldn't be over 40 hours unless they can sustain it in terms of story and skill progression.
maybe i'm just getting old and cranky (even though im 23), but my tolerance for 'padding' is getting quite low :S
i'd probably think more highly of most tales games if they ended about 20 hours earlier.
Well I wasn't exactly offended lol so no worries dude
Ah yeah, that's true. So it's probably a fairly good length for it.
I'd honestly just say that read short plot summaries for both and choose the one you find more interesting. Xillia and Vesperia pretty much share the first place on my "favorite Tales game" list.
But Xillia's story is paced well and with fast travel there's like no padding. There's little going back to other locations like TotA too. If anything, the story should've been longer.
Dark Schala
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They wanted to go for a more cinematic style with this one (notice that the cutscene direction and blocking is better than before), and from here on out, this is probably how Tales games are going to be designed in terms of cutscenes/NPC dialogue.
If you have access to both, I'd strongly suggest Vesperia, just because I feel like Vesperia's sidecontent and skill acquisition is more meaningful. Xillia's still a good starting point for people, though.
Hey, I agreed with your points about Legendia and Abyss's cast. >.>
Eh, I feel like the pacing in this game is pretty good. Outside of little bits and pieces here and there, the pacing and flow of how the game is put together is pretty solid.
chickdigger802
Banned
haven't had a problem with xillia yet, but i'm not done lol. these dungeons seem to drag though... and i feel like i'm wasting a bunch of time going off the beaten path to look for shit, because well... everything is shit.
whatever happen to getting dope new weapons in dungeons?
all i find is garbage donation stuff and some armor thats worse than the shit im wearing.
I actually don't much care for Xillia's world. Rieze Maxia feels too small IMO. It's well realized otherwise though, but I prefer Vesperia.
Anyone else find it amusing that you have these giant fields but then some towns are really small. Leronde is literally a single street with 2 buildings you can enter lmao.
Be excited when you find donation stuff. Means you can upgrade your shop more and get some phat lootz
Well this is partially because the scope of Terca Lumereis is well conveyed through the usage of world-map travel. In Rieze Maxia, this doesn't happen. While it's true that RM is definitely smaller than TL, I think the world of RM and its mythos is very interesting in relation to the Guild vs Empire dynamic presented in TL.
Oh god no. Not even close to that horrible mess.