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[Aeana]

I'm sticking with the default ones, they seem to be by far the best. Symbols beside them are gold, so I'm guessing they're at max rank.

If you're not playing on hard, changing the heal/defense setting to "when over 75%" is enough for 95% of the fights (so far for me) and in the other 5% you'll just have to manually use Life Bottles lots of them.

Sometimes, different titles will teach you different artes, so it's still beneficial to switch between them.

 

[Rhapsody]

Thanks for the replies. So maybe not as addicting as Graces when the difficulty is turned up.

As long as it's more fun that Xillia's and Abyss's higher difficulties, I guess I'm satisfied.

 

[InternHertz]

Here's an example of how it looks when you have your 加護 level at 1 ~ 3 for all

http://blog-imgs-78.fc2.com/s/k/y/sky1923/201501220901362bd.jpg

Mh, I see...

Only

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7 different Nushi

then? Any indication of the max level each can go?
I suppose they chose a roundabout way of doing it, but they retained a hard cap like Xillia 1 and 2...I just hope this time the hard cap is actually enough for me to pick every positive bonus I actually want (F you, 10000 Grade cap in X1/2). I miss Vesperia/Graces days where I could pick for sure everything first try
But I'm too low on information right now so any sort of planning may need to wait until I know just how much I can potentially gain.

 

[keisuke999]

Mh, I see...

Only

Spoiler

7 different Nushi

then? Any indication of the max level each can go?
I suppose they chose a roundabout way of doing it, but they retained a hard cap like Xillia 1 and 2...I just hope this time the hard cap is actually enough for me to pick every positive bonus I actually want (F you, 10000 Grade cap in X1/2). I miss Vesperia/Graces days where I could pick for sure everything first try
But I'm too low on information right now so any sort of planning may need to wait until I know just how much I can potentially gain.

There are 7, yeah. Also, there is a trophy you get for getting one of them up to level 20, so I assume the max level is at least that much.

looking at the pic, seems that level 3 gets you 36 points, so getting to level 20 should be at least 2000 points.

Also, there is one Grade shop bonus that costs 8000 by itself, so I doubt 10,000 is the limit.

 

[jae]

It's great how a million different things are triggered by contextual pushes of R2. Maybe I just suck at timing but I always trigger a blast when I want to mystic arte. At least its easy to get the timing right for healing in kamui form, since that is all I ever do in bigger fights because the AI sure won't.

As everyone else has said, the skill system is garbage. Totally destroys the excitement of finding new equipment in dungeons.

I do like a lot of things. The story is fine, and I am warming up to the cast a bit. Ednas' bullying of Mikleo and the ensuing nicknames is amusing. Didn't follow the game much before release so the stuff that is annoying everyone about the party members doesn't phase me.

 

[Hasemo]

I usually don't like loli characters, since they feel go into a creepy fanservice territory, but Edna's personality alone makes the cast of ToZ awesome.

 

[Mieu]

I usually don't like loli characters, since they feel go into a creepy fanservice territory, but Edna's personality alone makes the cast of ToZ awesome.

Hmm, I wonder who'll be the english VA for Edna?

Can anyone confirm if

Spoiler

(Sophie and Jade are the only two cameo fights in the game)

,

I think so. That's what I've stalked so far. I haven't seen a full party arena battle yet.

 

[Finalow]

So yeah, if anyone's interested, I'll throw the stuff up somewhere. If not, that's cool too.

um, if I can search for whatever kanji and look that up here on my pc or get the reading out of it, it should definitely help me.

* in the end I didn't understand if are you going to upload those tools somewhere or not. :<

 

[Aeana]

* in the end I didn't understand if are you going to upload those tools somewhere or not. :<

Sorry, I didn't see your response.
Quote this post for a link with a small readme attached. Hope it helps.

 

[Bladenic]

You need to play on hard to get items that have the "double skill" skill. This is required for a trophy, but if you aren't into that then there is no real reason to change the difficulty.

Hard gives you less EXP but more Gald, because in this game leveling doesn't mean shit. TO get stronger you have to combine weapons.

Hard gives less exp? That's weird.

 

[Aeana]

Hard gives less exp? That's weird.

Both second and hard give less exp according to the ingame tips, yeah.

 

[Bladenic]

Both second and hard give less exp according to the ingame tips, yeah.

That's a first for the series no? Is there bonus exp? Maybe the multiplier there is raised instead?

 

[gashikunFLCL]

Finally, it's here!

Time to play it with my brother.

 

[Soriku]

That's a first for the series no? Is there bonus exp? Maybe the multiplier there is raised instead?

I heard weapon fusion is more crucial than levels. Not sure how true that is.

 

[Rhapsody]

I know it's early, but relative to the other PS3 Tales titles, how do people feel about Zestiria so far?

 

[Datschge]

I know it's early, but relative to the other PS3 Tales titles, how do people feel about Zestiria so far?

I feel the pre-Xillia polish of the series is still not back with Zestiria.

 

[Dice//]

I feel the pre-Xillia polish of the series is still not back with Zestiria.

It feels like that's a state with a lot of games these days.

Honestly, that extra few weeks could do a game wonders, I feel.

 

[InternHertz]

Also, there is a trophy you get for getting one of them up to level 20, so I assume the max level is at least that much.

According to http://ds-can.com/toz/sub/nushi.html there are at least 24 known levels, and speculative max of 30 right now.

According to this chart, leveling up those Nushi will take a LOT of Grade. Multiply that by 7...oh man it's going to be a long road until 100%. I hope someone'll find a Grade farming technique ^^;

Now if only the wiki would confirm what the last Nushi level is, and how much that translates to &#24341;&#32153;&#12366;&#12509;&#12452;&#12531;&#12488;. I'd need 12885 of those to have what I want to take ^^ (1840,7 per Nushi would be enough)

 

[Finalow]

Sorry, I didn't see your response.
Quote this post for a link with a small readme attached. Hope it helps.

great, as soon as I get the game I'll give it a try. thanks.

 

[LX_Theo]

As a person who has played and enjoyed Tales of Symphonia and Xillia 2 (only ones I've played, watched an LP of Xillia), does this one look like it'll be good for me? Thanks to the kind person who answers this. Trying to decide whether to look for this near the western launch or wait for lower the prices.

 

[Jiraiza]

I usually don't like loli characters, since they feel go into a creepy fanservice territory, but Edna's personality alone makes the cast of ToZ awesome.

Yeah, definitely love Edna. Her snarky attitude is pretty cute. I even got her keychain, fate must be at work here.

 

[demonkaze]

I was wondering what the level of Japanese is like in this game? I'm studying Japanese at the moment and was considering importing this to aid me with my studies, giving me something to actually practice what I'm learning.

 

[Datschge]

I was wondering what the level of Japanese is like in this game? I'm studying Japanese at the moment and was considering importing this to aid me with my studies, giving me something to actually practice what I'm learning.

Has been discussed in this very thread before, I'll look for the post number. Edit: Post by Bebpo: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=148528889&postcount=110

Essentially the Tales games are good for learning once one doesn't need Furigana anymore (otherwise Level 5 games are better). What's great about Tales are the huge amount of voiced scenes, so understanding that already is a huge plus for learning Kanjis etc.

 

[Aeana]

It's like Christmas again!

So, yeah, if anybody wants a brand new Asian copy of Tales of Zestiria, let me know. I'll let it go for a discount.

 

[Peff]

Has been discussed in this very thread before, I'll look for the post number. Edit: Post by Bebpo: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=148528889&postcount=110

Essentially the Tales games are good for learning once one doesn't need Furigana anymore (otherwise Level 5 games are better). What's great about Tales are the huge amount of voiced scenes, so understanding that already is a huge plus for learning Kanjis etc.

From what I've read the skill and fusion systems sound fairly confusing even without the language barrier, not to mention the apparent lack of waypoints, so this one might not be the best point of entry. That said, I'm sure guides will pop up in the coming weeks, so it shouldn't be too hard to brute-force with some help.

 

[Hasemo]

I was expecting to clear the game yesterday, but I was only able to get to the entrance to the (hopefully) last dungeon. I just hope it's not Kiseki levels long, ha ha.

The skill system really is terrible. At this point, getting a new piece of equipment usually means that one or two stats get a huge boost, but the rest takes a dive because of losing fusion skills. The stuff that I'm getting now is also probably limited to enemies/chests, so it's not like tinkering with synthesis would be easy.
I also don't get enemy levels in this game. I went somewhere, story related, with really tight corridors, where it's nearly impossible to not engage, and enemies were 15-20 above me. As the story progressed, I ended up in another dungeon, also story related and the enemies were 10 levels lower those before. What.

 

[Aeana]

I was expecting to clear the game yesterday, but I was only able to get to the entrance to the (hopefully) last dungeon.
I don't get enemy levels in this game. I went somewhere, story related, with really tight corridors, where it's nearly impossible to not engage, and enemies were 15-20 above me. As the story progressed, I ended up in another dungeon, also story related and the enemies were 10 levels lower those before. What.

And that wasn't an effect of Normin or anything like that?

 

[Aeana]

I love Dezel's dash support talent so much. Especially in cities where it gets faster every time you pass people.

 

[Hasemo]

And that wasn't an effect of Normin or anything like that?

Normin can only give you skills that can be on equipment iirc and I don't think there's a skill related to enemy levels.

As for the dash ability skill, later in the game a second party member can learn it - you get even faster. Too bad I noticed that I can choose it so late.

 

[Aeana]

Normin can only give you skills that can be on equipment iirc and I don't think there's a skill related to enemy levels.

As for the dash ability skill, later in the game a second party member can learn it - you get even faster. Too bad I noticed that I can choose it so late.

I thought that using the Normin advantages raised enemy levels in the area. I'm pretty sure I read that...

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[FSLink]

My copy just came in, a day earlier than expected. (and a few JPN Amiibos. :v)

 

[Hasemo]

I thought that using the Normin advantages raised enemy levels in the area. I'm pretty sure I read that...

EDIT:

Oh wow, I totally missed that part. Thanks. Guess I'll have to be smarter about my Normins, although this doesn't seem to affect bosses. That said, those enemies 20 levels higher than me weren't that hard anyway.

 

[Aeana]

Welp, I just got to the first actually large field. First time I've felt overwhelmed entering an area in this game.

 

[Sakura]

Hmm... I don't really like the way the story is going in this game. It is unfortunate but I think I may just end up selling it

 

[Aeana]

Hmm... I don't really like the way the story is going in this game. It is unfortunate but I think I may just end up selling it

Where are you in the game?

 

[HeelPower]

so how is the gameplay in this game ?

Exploration ,battle system,quests,linearity etc..

 

[demidar]

Welp, I just got to the first actually large field. First time I've felt overwhelmed entering an area in this game.

That looks about as big as Gran Pulse's main area.

 

[keisuke999]

Hmm... I don't really like the way the story is going in this game. It is unfortunate but I think I may just end up selling it

Story gets pretty dark later on... unless you're at the end and hate it.

 

[Hasemo]

keisuke, what was your level when you foughtthe last boss?
Spoiler it to be on the safe side.

 

[Sakura]

Where are you in the game?

After that

Spoiler

big war part. I don't care at all for how the game handled Alisha.

 

[Aeana]

After that

Spoiler

big war part. I don't care at all for how the game handled Alisha.

Seems like a major complaint a lot of people have.
I can't say it matters much to me, personally. I'm just happy to finally have a full party with full capabilities.

 

[Sakura]

Seems like a major complaint a lot of people have.
I can't say it matters much to me, personally. I'm just happy to finally have a full party with full capabilities.

Well for me

Spoiler

Alisha was kind of a big part of why I bought the game. I liked her character, design, etc. Considering her in the anime I watched before I bought the game, the fact they were selling DLC costumes for her and stuff, etc I didn't think I would have to worry about her leaving in like literally less than the first 10 hours. And when she does leave, the scene is just garbage. If the staff MUST write her out of the story, then surely there are better ways than that!? I'm not really hooked on the story or rest of the characters, which is the same reason I eventually dropped Innocence, nor does the story/setting entirely make sense to me.

 

[Reishiki]

Darnit, I wasn't quick enough on my preorder to get the Mystic Arte code with my copy :<

 

[artsi]

Yay, my copy was shipped today. Late to the party, but seems like I'll get to explore Zestiria in the weekend.

 

[raven777]

Alisha DLC story confirmed.
1,300 yen

Edit: it's free for limited time (February 12th to 28th)

 

[Soriku]

Alisha DLC story confirmed.
1,300 yen

Source? lol if true...

 

[raven777]

Source? lol if true...

scan so I cannot post it here. It's floating around.

 

[RyougaSaotome]

"Alisha After Story"

The episode is told from her perspective.

 

[Soriku]

I see the scan. lmao. There's a shot of Alisha with Rose. Alisha's new costume is really good.

Does the DLC story take place after the game is over or during the main story?

Edit: February 12 release.

 

[raven777]

I see the scan. lmao. There's a shot of Alisha with Rose. Alisha's new costume is really good.

Does the DLC story take place after the game is over or during the main story?

Edit: February 12 release.

Yea I really like Alisha's new costume.