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[Zafir]

Alisha was in the party for a significant enough time for her to grow on us. Not to mention for those of us who watched the ova.

Oh boy was it uncermonious. You could be forgiven in thinking that she would be back later in the game but the fact that she doesn't makes it feel all the more insulting and it does sour my impression against Rose which is a shame because I find Rose likeable as well, in a different way. I'm not looking forward to confirming the tumors whether or not the rest of the cast were trying to make Rose better than Alisha in skits.

And wtf?! They made her VA apologise?? That's horseshit! Don't tell me the fans accepted that it's her fault?

Yep, I just got to the point where Rose joins yesterday, and man the entire thing felt rather forced.

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Oh, Alisha was weakening Sorey, she can't stay with us any longer! The reason of leaving due to wanting to help the kingdom was fine, but my god the seraph couldn't get rid of her fast enough for Rose. Rose comes along, and they've barely even spoke for a few minutes before they're all like "We should ask her to join us!" even though she's running an assassins guild, and then to top it off she joins because she gets herself into a tricky situation in the ruins. There's no speech of it being their dream or whatever like any previous seraph/character who joins.

Rose is a more interesting character, and the VA apologising for it seems utterly ridiculous, but I do admit the entire thing was just really poorly handled in my opinion, both in advertisement and in the game.

 

[texhnolyze]

Alisha was in the party for a significant enough time for her to grow on us. Not to mention for those of us who watched the ova.

Oh boy was it uncermonious. You could be forgiven in thinking that she would be back later in the game but the fact that she doesn't makes it feel all the more insulting and it does sour my impression against Rose which is a shame because I find Rose likeable as well, in a different way. I'm not looking forward to confirming the tumors whether or not the rest of the cast were trying to make Rose better than Alisha in skits.

And wtf?! They made her VA apologise?? That's horseshit! Don't tell me the fans accepted that it's her fault?

What? Alisha doesn't

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come back later? So why is the merchants still selling her higher level spears in later cities then?
That particular fact made me wonder if she'll be joining up the team again some time later in the game.

I hope it's not a spoiler, but I'll just tag it just in case.

 

[Sandfox]

What? Alisha doesn't

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come back later? So why is the merchants still selling her higher level spears in later cities then?
That particular fact made me wonder if she'll be joining up the team again some time later in the game.

I hope it's not a spoiler, but I'll just tag it just in case.

That was one of the things people brought up in the initial complaints.

 

[texhnolyze]

That was one of the things people brought up in the initial complaints.

I see.
So, they kinda ditch the story and revise it at the last minute or something like that. Interesting.

 

[adamsapple]

What? Alisha doesn't

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come back later? So why is the merchants still selling her higher level spears in later cities then?
That particular fact made me wonder if she'll be joining up the team again some time later in the game.

I hope it's not a spoiler, but I'll just tag it just in case.

Late game spoilers.

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She does come back for one small dungeon and boss fight at a certain point in the story near the final stretch. But it's only temporary and for a story reason, party reverts back to Rose and she goes off to do her own thing after her dungeon is over.

Even more late game spoilers, unrelated to above.

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MAN that fight with Rose and Zeveid was hard as fuck.

and a late game question.

Do I have to max out all the stores to get the mythril stuff ? or a certain level will be OK ? Because I don't think i'll be able to do that without money cheats or a crap ton of grinding

 

[Vex_]

So question: What's the point of playing without doing the fusion dance? Like, why even bother playing as just Sorey? Just go super. EVERY. BATTLE.

It seems like you can fuse almost every battle.
Almost no negatives: more health, more attack power
AOE attacks galore
Kyuubi regeneration
Quincy arrows

I feel like this entire game is like that. Redundant. Why do this when there are clearly superior ways of doing that?

Like, why do they have that SKILL chart for the equipment? They could have omitted that chart (as it looks confusing as hell anyway), and just used the item description already provided (difens +40%, spirri+10%, etc/stacking bonuses). You dont need that chart to know you are stacking traits. You can read it right there.

 

[Ketkat]

So question: What's the point of playing without doing the fusion dance? Like, why even bother playing as just Sorey? Just go super. EVERY. BATTLE.

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You'll have a much more limited number of hits, won't be able to get big combos for larger damage bonuses, you're losing a party member in order to fuse so you'll lose some versatility there as well. Fusion forms are certainly strong, but they come with a tradeoff that you might not see till later in the game where it gets harder to stagger bosses.

 

[adamsapple]

So question: What's the point of playing without doing the fusion dance? Like, why even bother playing as just Sorey? Just go super. EVERY. BATTLE.

It seems like you can fuse almost every battle.
Almost no negatives: more health, more attack power
AOE attacks galore
Kyuubi regeneration
Quincy arrows

I feel like this entire game is like that. Redundant. Why do this when there are clearly superior ways of doing that?

Like, why do they have that SKILL chart for the equipment? They could have omitted that chart (as it looks confusing as hell anyway), and just used the item description already provided (difens +40%, spirri+10%, etc/stacking bonuses). You dont need that chart to know you are stacking traits. You can read it right there.

There's a few negatives.

- less characters, i-e more focused enemy attacks, can be really sucky in boss fights if they end up using a mystic art on you
- attacks are slower, less chaining and staggering opportunities
- generally the damage per second is lower with 2 characters (even if the attack power is a big higher) than with 4 doing it.

 

[Vex_]

You'll have.

There's a few negatives.

Oh... well then. I see. Thanks guys. Strange I dont feel too slow right now in early game (moderate difficulty).

Since I have you: does the person I fuse with still get EXP? Or is it only Sorey?

 

[adamsapple]

Oh... well then. I see. Thanks guys. Strange I dont feel too slow right now in early game (moderate difficulty).

Since I have you: does the person I fuse with still get EXP? Or is it only Sorey?

Everyone gets XP, even the out of battle people, only case someone misses getting XP if they are KO'ed at the end of the battle.

 

[Falk]

Everyone gets XP, even the out of battle people, only case someone misses getting XP if they are KO'ed at the end of the battle.

This game rewards people who do nothing over those who give their life for the cause.

Shameful.

Changing my rating from 8/10 to 4/10.

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

the KO penalty could potentially mess some characters up as they wouldn't be able to catch up with the rest of the group- especially in boss fights where the whole party gets a huge boost in EXP.

 

[Bladenic]

the KO penalty could potentially mess some characters up as they wouldn't be able to catch up with the rest of the group- especially in boss fights where the whole party gets a huge boost in EXP.

Trust me, it does. Poor Lailah died during the Echidna fight and I killed it right before the life bottle went off, and she's a whole level behind now. And with the Hard exp decrease she'll never catch up.

 

[zakujanai]

Reached the part where

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Dezel dies.

Was I supposed to understand

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the flashback

because I had no idea what was going on other than

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Dezel's mate died protecting Rose.

Who exactly were

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the Windriders?

Why were the

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two wind seraphim traveling with humans?

I've got zero chance if finishing this in the next 6/7 hours have I. And with Trails out on Thursday I'm never going to play this again after today. Guess I'll just Google the rest once I give up.

 

[adz2ka]

So I've always maintained the thought that this has the best OST of any Tales game.

I get to the Earth temple and this starts playing (no spoilers in link). What an amazing song!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rNeIZkZTRA

 

[Droplet]

Reached the part where

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Dezel dies.

Was I supposed to understand

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the flashback

because I had no idea what was going on other than

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Dezel's mate died protecting Rose.

Who exactly were

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the Windriders?

Why were the

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two wind seraphim traveling with humans?

I've got zero chance if finishing this in the next 6/7 hours have I. And with Trails out on Thursday I'm never going to play this again after today. Guess I'll just Google the rest once I give up.

Lol, I honestly don't blame you. Some of the cutscenes are really obtuse with the most important parts. The (beginning spoilers)

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part with Sorey losing his eyesight due to Alisha being his squire

and (big spoilersish)

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reveal flashback of the final Earthern Historia

were kind of mind-boggling until I read the synopsis.

Anyway, to "explain",

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I think the Windriders was the name of the mercenary group that the Sparrowfeathers used to be. Dezel's friend didn't die, he became the hellion they were fighting prior to the flashback...somehow...because he was protecting Rose from her now-hellion fiance.

...yep.

And yeah, you're probably not finishing that fast, but if you're good at the game you might in the next 10? I haven't been keeping good track of my time.

 

[zakujanai]

Thanks, totally missed the fact that

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Dezel's friend was the hellion.

I might try to power through before work this week and try to make it to the finish. It'd be nice to be able to wrap it up, leaving RPGs half finished is just the worst.

 

[Arkeus]

Trust me, it does. Poor Lailah died during the Echidna fight and I killed it right before the life bottle went off, and she's a whole level behind now. And with the Hard exp decrease she'll never catch up.

Yeah, my lowest level characters are Laihla and Rose, because I use Laihla a LOT for fusions, which means that she has high chance of being left dead at the end of the fight if I need to rez Sorrey by switching with another Seraph as they are both dead.

As for Rose, well, she is in every fights, so her dying happens.

 

[Alucrid]

it's really annoying when the message pops up that screenshot functionality is disabled when you get a trophy. thanks namco

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

Unsurprisingly my favourite tracks in the game are the ones by Go Shiina. I've loved his work in all the games he has composed for.

 

[tauke]

Alisha finally left the party and the game is pretty tricky on Hard with Sorey alone.

Also Edna is such a troll. I like.

 

[aitakute]

Unsurprisingly my favourite tracks in the game are the ones by Go Shiina. I've loved his work in all the games he has composed for.

I seriously hope he would work on Berseria and the games from now on

 

[Zafir]

Lol, something tells me you should come back to do the Lailah crucible. The Sorey one was pretty easy but that one, man fuck the lailah one at the moment. You can do the first few rounds okay by attacking with B a bit and then ending the combo with an art(otherwise you just can't get arts off), but then they start chucking like 6 enemies at you, which means it's practically impossible to get your arts off...

 

[Anteater]

damn the lastonbell scene was hilarious

 

[tauke]

Ok stupid question here, it is worth the trouble to endure Hard difficulty for majority of the battle?

The

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dragonewt

battle is owning me badly and I barely pass after switching to Moderate difficulty.

 

[stephencottontail]

Any one tried this on remote play (vita) yet? How's it run

Runs fine for me with no lag, though I find R2 hard to hit on the Vita. YMMV.

 

[rockmanjoe]

There's a few negatives.

- less characters, i-e more focused enemy attacks, can be really sucky in boss fights if they end up using a mystic art on you
- attacks are slower, less chaining and staggering opportunities
- generally the damage per second is lower with 2 characters (even if the attack power is a big higher) than with 4 doing it.

You also lose access to Martial Artes, so you won't be able to interrupt enemy arte casting.

 

[Jisgsaw]

Like, why do they have that SKILL chart for the equipment? They could have omitted that chart (as it looks confusing as hell anyway), and just used the item description already provided (difens +40%, spirri+10%, etc/stacking bonuses). You dont need that chart to know you are stacking traits. You can read it right there.

You do know that stacking skills or building rows/columns unlocks other traits, right?
You have to show that somehow, which is the reason for the chart.

 

[Anteater]

shepherd.

 

[zakujanai]

Just fought a giant elephant hellion at about 3fps, it was honestly one of the most frustratingly ugly battles I've ever witnessed in a game. Massive elephant and it did instant 180 turns with not a single frame in between. My character running around looked like it was being animated by a zoetrope. PS4 version by the way.

 

[Bladenic]

I seriously hope he would work on Berseria and the games from now on

I'd be fine with it continuing like this, but I would like another full game soundtrack by him, maybe with a few Sakuraba tracks.

 

[DXLelouch153]

sweet mother of god this Ai is horrible
will someone pls and i dont care if its spoilers tell me the best settings in the strategy menu for each character
before i go insane

 

[Dice//]

Yeah, I've figured that out after I posted it earlier. I'm so dumb lol.

loool I got stuck there too, I felt like such a donut when I just didn't CUT IT. x)

 

[tauke]

shepherd.

Wrex.

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I got no idea who is that character yet

 

[irfaanator]

am I only supposed to do blasts when the enemy is stunned? they seem hella slow and i still dont know how you're supposed to chain combos with it.

 

[Anteater]

man this game is fun, maybe because I haven't played a jrpg since ff13...

Wrex.

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I got no idea who is that character yet

just some dude who show up for like a minute

 

[Dude Guy]

This OST, man. So good.

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The scene in Lastonbell, after you defeat the dragon. SOOOO GOOOOOOOD

 

[Taruranto]

Finished the

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Water Temple

The gimmick was annoying as I heard, but it didn't take me that much.

 

[Bowlie]

damn the lastonbell scene was hilarious

came here to post this, it's really good!


I just got to that city, and I don't know how far I'm into the game, but I wish it had more sidequests like in the previous games. Or at least something that would give more life to the world.

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I know almost nothing about Hyland or Rolance, who are their governors, why they're fighting, to the point that I couldn't care about that battle and their losses.

Can someone tell me if it gets better?

 

[demidar]

Okay I finally figured out the "Use higher seraphic arte" Battle Action. So when you're casting a seraphic arte (so spells only), hold down the artes button (A/Cross) so you're holding the spell after it's finished, then press the attack button (B/Circle) and you'll start casting the higher seraphic arte (with reduced cast time, probably equivalent to the time spent casting the lower arte). You can also hold down the attack button just before the casting finishes (while still holding down the artes button).

This means you gain access to all of your seraphic artes on your directions as most of them are just higher forms of each other.

 

[VanillaCakeIsBurning]

So for this sidequest in the Ladylake Hyland city, do you

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report the pickpocket kids to the guards or not?

 

[Bladenic]

Okay I finally figured out the "Use higher seraphic arte" Battle Action. So when you're casting a seraphic arte (so spells only), hold down the artes button (A/Cross) so you're holding the spell after it's finished, then press the attack button (B/Circle) and you'll start casting the higher seraphic arte (with reduced cast time, probably equivalent to the time spent casting the lower arte). You can also hold down the attack button just before the casting finishes (while still holding down the artes button).

This means you gain access to all of your seraphic artes on your directions as most of them are just higher forms of each other.

Interesting, I'll try that.

 

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Just finished a lengthy session

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cleared the temples (Water of course sucked, Earth was nice and breezy), lost Dezel and gained Zavied, and am now just running around getting Earthen Historian and other side stuff.

I'm having a blast, honestly, but I enjoyed all the Tales games. Even Graces f and Hearts R, both which I found really fun in terms of combat.

 

[adamsapple]

So for this sidequest in the Ladylake Hyland city, do you

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report the pickpocket kids to the guards or not?

Report them,

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I don't think it makes a difference. I chose not to and it still proceeded with the 'we should report them' cut scene.

 

[DXLelouch153]

after extensive testing i can definately confirm
Titles effect AI
hell with casting titles Lailah even STAYS AWAY from the enemy when casting
i guess Bamco developed new AI tech

 

[Jathaine]

In the dark I see you with hope and despair all around


Oh man, I'm never going to be able to get this out of my head, am I?

 

[Dougieflesh]

Is there a strategy you can set that makes a character more of a designated healer?

 

[DXLelouch153]

Is there a strategy you can set that makes a character more of a designated healer?

titles affect AI now so get a healer title i guess

 

[Bladenic]

Is there a strategy you can set that makes a character more of a designated healer?

You can give the prioritize defense command and they stay back and heal. Not sure if that applies to the whole crew or can be individual.

 

[Jathaine]

after extensive testing i can definately confirm
Titles effect AI
hell with casting titles Lailah even STAYS AWAY from the enemy when casting
i guess Bamco developed new AI tech

How did you go about testing them?