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Team Fortress 2 Official PC Thread. SO. WORTH. IT.
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Giganticus
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Speculation based on the leaked achievements and the image datamined from Steampowered.com mentioning a "tweak to the ol' flamethrower" suggests that the flamethrower will now destroy incoming explosives such as rockets and grenades.
Oh shit, there it is!
CP_FASTLANE
created by Arttu "skdr" Mäki
A control point map with five points, in the style of Badlands. Its symmetrical layout provides for high-speed and well balanced gameplay, while the multiple indoor routes, connected to larger outdoor arenas, provide a wide set of interesting and varied combat spaces. The arena-style control points require solid teamwork to capture and hold.
CTF_TURBINE
created by Bill Johnston
A CTF map inside a large industrial compound. It's clean and straightforward, making it easy to learn, but its well balanced layout ensures there are still a wide variety of strategic choices for teams to make, and for individual classes to shine. Competitive teams and players have already popularized this one.
The first Pyro unlockable is The Flare Gun, which replaces the shotgun. It allows the Pyro to ignite an enemy at long range, but does require careful aim on their part. Its particularly useful for causing havoc on Snipers and Engineers who want to keep their distance.
The second Pyro unlockable is The Backburner. This flamethrower is built for the Pyro who likes to ambush their opponents. It removes the compression blast capability, instead guaranteeing critical hits whenever its used on an opponent from behind. To aid in survivability, it grants the Pyro an extra fifty health.
The third Pyro unlockable is The Axtinguisher. This mighty axe guarantees critical hits on any enemy thats currently on fire, although its significantly weaker against enemies who arent. A great combination with the The Flare Gun, or with another Pyro buddy riding alongside doing the igniting.
Also, Pyro now overpowered confirmed:
In addition to the three unlockable Pyro weapons, we've made a significant addition to the base Pyro flamethrower. By hitting the alt-fire key, the Pyro is able to produce a blast of compressed air that knocks enemies away, and redirects enemy projectiles. Its a highly versatile tool, allowing Pyros to get away from nearby enemies after igniting them, to kill enemy soldiers with their own rockets, or to separate enemy Medics from their healing targets. In particular, it allows a skilled Pyro to contain an enemy invulnerability push, and even to separate the Medic completely if the surrounding terrain supports it.
http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview
CP_FASTLANE
created by Arttu "skdr" Mäki
A control point map with five points, in the style of Badlands. Its symmetrical layout provides for high-speed and well balanced gameplay, while the multiple indoor routes, connected to larger outdoor arenas, provide a wide set of interesting and varied combat spaces. The arena-style control points require solid teamwork to capture and hold.
CTF_TURBINE
created by Bill Johnston
A CTF map inside a large industrial compound. It's clean and straightforward, making it easy to learn, but its well balanced layout ensures there are still a wide variety of strategic choices for teams to make, and for individual classes to shine. Competitive teams and players have already popularized this one.
The first Pyro unlockable is The Flare Gun, which replaces the shotgun. It allows the Pyro to ignite an enemy at long range, but does require careful aim on their part. Its particularly useful for causing havoc on Snipers and Engineers who want to keep their distance.
The second Pyro unlockable is The Backburner. This flamethrower is built for the Pyro who likes to ambush their opponents. It removes the compression blast capability, instead guaranteeing critical hits whenever its used on an opponent from behind. To aid in survivability, it grants the Pyro an extra fifty health.
The third Pyro unlockable is The Axtinguisher. This mighty axe guarantees critical hits on any enemy thats currently on fire, although its significantly weaker against enemies who arent. A great combination with the The Flare Gun, or with another Pyro buddy riding alongside doing the igniting.
Also, Pyro now overpowered confirmed:
In addition to the three unlockable Pyro weapons, we've made a significant addition to the base Pyro flamethrower. By hitting the alt-fire key, the Pyro is able to produce a blast of compressed air that knocks enemies away, and redirects enemy projectiles. Its a highly versatile tool, allowing Pyros to get away from nearby enemies after igniting them, to kill enemy soldiers with their own rockets, or to separate enemy Medics from their healing targets. In particular, it allows a skilled Pyro to contain an enemy invulnerability push, and even to separate the Medic completely if the surrounding terrain supports it.
http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview
Giganticus
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the achievements too
"BarbeQueQ: Cause a dominated player to leave the server."
the best one.
"BarbeQueQ: Cause a dominated player to leave the server."
the best one.
Can't wait to try the flamethrower now.
I don't think it's overpowered now, just more competitive.. I played a lot as a pyro, and sometimes it felt like a week matchstick against the stronger classes, considering that it's an attack class.
Still, better try it before jumping to conclusions.
I don't think it's overpowered now, just more competitive.. I played a lot as a pyro, and sometimes it felt like a week matchstick against the stronger classes, considering that it's an attack class.
Still, better try it before jumping to conclusions.
PillowKnight
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I like the idea...but , wtf!? Another soldier nerf, well playing Pyro just got all the more fun.Capndrake said:
Capndrake said:Oh shit, there it is!
CP_FASTLANE
created by Arttu "skdr" Mäki
A control point map with five points, in the style of Badlands. Its symmetrical layout provides for high-speed and well balanced gameplay, while the multiple indoor routes, connected to larger outdoor arenas, provide a wide set of interesting and varied combat spaces. The arena-style control points require solid teamwork to capture and hold.
CTF_TURBINE
created by Bill Johnston
A CTF map inside a large industrial compound. It's clean and straightforward, making it easy to learn, but its well balanced layout ensures there are still a wide variety of strategic choices for teams to make, and for individual classes to shine. Competitive teams and players have already popularized this one.
The first Pyro unlockable is The Flare Gun, which replaces the shotgun. It allows the Pyro to ignite an enemy at long range, but does require careful aim on their part. Its particularly useful for causing havoc on Snipers and Engineers who want to keep their distance.
The second Pyro unlockable is The Backburner. This flamethrower is built for the Pyro who likes to ambush their opponents. It removes the compression blast capability, instead guaranteeing critical hits whenever its used on an opponent from behind. To aid in survivability, it grants the Pyro an extra fifty health.
The third Pyro unlockable is The Axtinguisher. This mighty axe guarantees critical hits on any enemy thats currently on fire, although its significantly weaker against enemies who arent. A great combination with the The Flare Gun, or with another Pyro buddy riding alongside doing the igniting.
Also, Pyro now overpowered confirmed:
In addition to the three unlockable Pyro weapons, we've made a significant addition to the base Pyro flamethrower. By hitting the alt-fire key, the Pyro is able to produce a blast of compressed air that knocks enemies away, and redirects enemy projectiles. Its a highly versatile tool, allowing Pyros to get away from nearby enemies after igniting them, to kill enemy soldiers with their own rockets, or to separate enemy Medics from their healing targets. In particular, it allows a skilled Pyro to contain an enemy invulnerability push, and even to separate the Medic completely if the surrounding terrain supports it.
http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview
Holy ****! Pyro's gonna be a beast. That second upgrade addresses why I quit playing pyro. I always felt there was zero reward for being a skilled ambusher.
Although let's face it, this only highlights why Valve should have did all the classes at once. Pyro is hella overpowered with all these new additions. It's not even debatable. He's got all these cool and lethal toys, and everyone else is stuck with old, nerfed stuff. Soldier, especially, now he has no defenses for onrushing pyros. He's got a miserable 4 rockets in his clips, runs like he has cement on his feet, and he can't pop up a rushing pyro to retreat? Is any soldier not gonna switch to Pyro class until soldier is updated?
Turbine's a good map. When I was speculating maps, Mach and Turbine were the two I was thinking of (just couldn't remember Turbine's name. New it was named for the middle room's features, just couldn't remember it.)
EDIT: Duh. I was reading backburner wrong. Initially read it as Backburner disabled compression when firing weapon. Shows I've never gotten any medic upgrades. Cause it'll obviously be disabled at all times. So a pyro will have access to decent upgrade abilities or, if he's a hack and sucks at Pyro, can continue to play his awful ways and have newb capabilities to allow him to survive in situations he shouldn't. Valve addresses their entire userbase
Giganticus
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Even if a pyro is really good, he can still get popped in the face by a rocket from close range. His Air burst will need good timing, you wont just be able to hold it down. Therefore a Soldier can still do the "shoot at my own feet" or at least shoot point blank - this already kills a lot of pyros, it will continue to do so.
To be honest, I feel most sorry for the spy. A pyro chasing you with the new crit flamethrower is gonna suck. You'll be rocked by spycheckers even worse than before, as they can now punt you away before you get to sap, or alternatively punt away incoming rockets and grenades at the sapped sentry to keep it alive long enough to be repaired. Pyros will spycheck from afar now with the flare gun, whereas avoiding them was your only option. Tight areas and chokepoints which were difficult to get through as it was without dying are going to be even worse with deflected grenades and rockets coming back through them. And this is before you consider the fact that there's the plain and simple achievement whoring that's gonna make EVERY pyro spycheck now.
EDIT: the backburner is Valve's way of rewarding playing the Pyro like it was originally meant to be played I think. More hp than a soldier and guaranteed crit ambushes? Nice.
To be honest, I feel most sorry for the spy. A pyro chasing you with the new crit flamethrower is gonna suck. You'll be rocked by spycheckers even worse than before, as they can now punt you away before you get to sap, or alternatively punt away incoming rockets and grenades at the sapped sentry to keep it alive long enough to be repaired. Pyros will spycheck from afar now with the flare gun, whereas avoiding them was your only option. Tight areas and chokepoints which were difficult to get through as it was without dying are going to be even worse with deflected grenades and rockets coming back through them. And this is before you consider the fact that there's the plain and simple achievement whoring that's gonna make EVERY pyro spycheck now.
EDIT: the backburner is Valve's way of rewarding playing the Pyro like it was originally meant to be played I think. More hp than a soldier and guaranteed crit ambushes? Nice.
Giganticus said:
For a defense map like Dustbowl 2, ubered Heavies will be the only way to kill tuff sentries. I know I'll mostly use backburner, but that's a situation where newb abilities are to be skillfully exploited (to a game breaking degree IMO.)
EDIT: On second thought, I'm sure Valve has given it a short burst and then a reload time of the rocket. Right? Valve is smart enough to do that, right? Cause being able to hold down a "win" button and hold off 3 ubered Demoman and Soldiers from killing a sentry would break the game completely.
fallengorn
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There's no doubt that there's going to be a "refractory period" for the compression bursts.1-D_FTW said:
Wow, pushback on the flamethrower? It will be interesting to see how much 'ammo' that uses. Maybe like 25 per push? Also - they should make the pushback put the fire out. Pyros are going to be so OP. Imagine 2 pyros at the top of granary point C just puffing air, launching people off the tower.
EDIT: And if I'm understanding this correctly, the backburner is basically the weapon pyros have now, except it gives them 50 more health and 100% crit when attacking from behind? Nice....
EDIT: And if I'm understanding this correctly, the backburner is basically the weapon pyros have now, except it gives them 50 more health and 100% crit when attacking from behind? Nice....
ThaiGrocer
Member
I wonder... will you have to hold down the alt-fire for a strong pyro air blast? I mean, kind of like the stickies for demoman. We'll see tomorrow.
sonicspear64
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CajoleJuice
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This update is going to be FUCKING AWESOME.
I've been playing Pyro a lot lately anyway, and now I'm just going to be a fucking beast.
I've been playing Pyro a lot lately anyway, and now I'm just going to be a fucking beast.
omgimaninja
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Gotta finish some work then I'll hop on, hopefully in an hour.
omgimaninja
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Right when we switched to castle, I remembered I had to run an errand
Herpes Reasons
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quick question guys. my boss is allowing us to play tf2 during work. but the only catch is we can only play lan. we can't play outside our network for security purposes. my question is, is there lan option, or do we have to create our own private server? there's only 12 of us that play, so how about bots?
thanks in advance!
thanks in advance!
omgimaninja
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I HATE scouts on Gravelpit
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