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[Kuro Madoushi]

Nice novelty. Forced me to play solly, got a cheesemint I needed

 

[GatorFan]

Trading my Quick-Fix for Battalion's Backup!

 

[Conceptor]

Stallion's just wrecking people with this new Cow Mangler

Edit: Nabs too :lol

 

[DarkKyo]

WOW! Just tried it in itemtest and it's so badass, can't wait to use it in-game. Finally nice to see some more types of particle effects come from weapons(rather than just explodey, bullets, or fire).

 

[Forkball]

The hell, I don't think anyone expected the rockets to be related to that. The stuff sounds hilariously OP though.

Also this picture is relevant again:

 

[MatthewB92]

Anyone willing to do 1 weapon for 1 series 24 or 25 crate?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

New weps. Cool.

 

[Wendel Clark]

Anyone willing to do 1 weapon for 1 series 24 or 25 crate?

Do you want the crates? Or are you on the other end of the trade? I have 24 and 25.

 

[MatthewB92]

Do you want the crates? Or are you on the other end of the trade? I have 24 and 25.

I want them. Add me. Matt

 

[vehn]

Eh I just bought a black box on man co. store to craft the new wep. can you not craft with purchased weps? I'm not seeing it when I try to craft.

 

[Cuban Legend]

Eh I just bought a black box on man co. store to craft the new wep. can you not craft with purchased weps? I'm not seeing it when I try to craft.

There might be something in RED in item descriptions @ the Man Co store you might want to read.

 

[vehn]

There might be something in RED in item descriptions @ the Man Co store you might want to read.

Yeah just read that :/ Oh well just a dollar

 

[Taco_Human]

Eh I just bought a black box on man co. store to craft the new wep. can you not craft with purchased weps? I'm not seeing it when I try to craft.

Everything you buy in the store is not tradeable or craftable. (Unless its keys or any other tradable miscellaneous things)

 

[MisterAnderson]

What is the recipe for the new hats? And how high do the numbers on the hats go before they are no longer numbered?

 

[Zerokku]

Anyone willing to do 1 weapon for 1 series 24 or 25 crate?

I want them

Edit: And beat.

 

[MatthewB92]

I want them

The weapons? Or the crates because I want crates lol.

 

[Wendel Clark]

IDK why i couldn't trade them

 

[Doncamatic]

What is the recipe for the new hats? And how high do the numbers on the hats go before they are no longer numbered?

Recipes are the craft set headgear ones, so 4 Refined Metal and a set weapon.

Also just crafted the Pipe and Mutton Chops #77 so the new headgear are about to enter the triple digits.

 

[Conceptor]

Recipes are the craft set headgear ones, so 4 Refined Metal and a set weapon.

Also just crafted the Pipe and Mutton Chops #77 so the new headgear are about to enter the triple digits.

edit: nvm

 

[mojiimbo]

The weapons? Or the crates because I want crates lol.

What's your Steam ID?

 

[XeroSauce]

Thoughts on Cow Mangler: No critical hits. Whatsoever. Dunno if this is a bug but Kritz doesn't work, Flag Cap doesn't work, Humiliation doesn't work.

Charge is not worth it on players unless you get a big clump, because with this RL, you get 5 shots that all do regular damage to players and reduced damage to buildings. They should really have a +25% clip size notation.

The reduced building damage? They meant it. I did almost nothing to the sentry I was fighting, but my shottie took care of it. The building stun is about as long as the Wrangler's stun when you switch to another weapon.

The weapon looks great and sounds great. However, the particles and kill animations are destroying my frames.

 

[MatthewB92]

What's your Steam ID?

Matt

 

[Wendel Clark]

im a retard

 

[thunker 9000]

Cow Mangler 5000 - Destroying Framerate Since 2011


DEM PARTICLES

 

[BY2K]

The new weapons are amazing. The Charged Shot of the Rocket replacement is devastating.

 

[Salsa]

great now i NEED to play soldier

 

[Drkirby]

The new rocket launcher seems too powerful. 5 shots, no ammo, what is the downside?

 

[BY2K]

The new rocket launcher seems too powerful. 5 shots, no ammo, what is the downside?

No random crits. Charged Shot takes all 5 shots, it's pretty long to reload.

 

[Salsa]

outside of the awesome hats, i really hate this set

it puts the camp on campy, i think one class has officially gone too far. Desintegrating enemies? lasers? weapons that require no ammo? :/ this is either gonna get heavily balanced or im missing something

biggest departure from the game's artstyle and theme yet

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Can I assume if I crafted one of the new hats, it won't be one of the first 100?

 

[parasight]

Can I assume if I crafted one of the new hats, it won't be one of the first 100?

At this point, yes it probably won't.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

At this point, yes it probably won't.

cool. I'll wait until the temperature on them cools down and just enjoy my 2 new update weapons.

 

[Hylian7]

I'm out of town at the moment, so I can't play at my desktop right now (will be back tomorrow). Is the new set really as overpowered as it sounds, or does the reduced building damage actually balance it out? It sounded pretty OP at first, but then I remembered that Soldier is intended to be a Sentry-destroying class, so maybe this isn't so bad.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I'm out of town at the moment, so I can't play at my desktop right now (will be back tomorrow). Is the new set really as overpowered as it sounds, or does the reduced building damage actually balance it out? It sounded pretty OP at first, but then I remembered that Soldier is intended to be a Sentry-destroying class, so maybe this isn't so bad.

I don't know if it's op yet...but it's definitely different. very clear disadvantages.

 

[Blizzard]

outside of the awesome hats, i really hate this set

it puts the camp on campy, i think one class has officially gone too far. Desintegrating enemies? lasers? weapons that require no ammo? :/ this is either gonna get heavily balanced or im missing something

biggest departure from the game's artstyle and theme yet

They're old-timey style spytech rayguns, steam-punkish, fitting right in far more than a redneck engineer, a pyro, a scottish demoman, or an australian sniper. Furthermore they're less silly than the fish on a stick, candycane, or medieval-style weapons. And no one used baseball bats in spytech bases!

 

[Hazaro]

No random crits. Charged Shot takes all 5 shots, it's pretty long to reload.

**Blame tr_walkway and item test

 

[Salsa]

They're old-timey style spytech rayguns, steam-punkish, fitting right in far more than a redneck engineer, a pyro, a scottish demoman, or an australian sniper. Furthermore they're less silly than the fish on a stick, candycane, or medieval-style weapons. And no one used baseball bats in spytech bases!

well, i havent seen footage of the weapon, but ive heard there's lasers and desintegration involved, that's mostly what im talking about rather than the weapon design itself.

 

[Blizzard]

+ No self damage

- No rocket jumping

Reload seems pretty similar

Rocket jumping seems about the same.

 

[XeroSauce]

+ No self damage

- No rocket jumping

Reload seems pretty similar

Wrong, and wrong? Rocket jumping is exactly the same, self damage is exactly the same.

 

[Hazaro]

Blame tr_walkway and item test

 

[Drkirby]

Wrong, and wrong? Rocket jumping is exactly the same, self damage is exactly the same.

Except with your charge shot you can also end up putting your self on fire.

Really, the only two down sides are:
- No Random Crits
- Less Damage to Buildings

Less Damage to buildings isn't a big deal since you already shut them down for 4 seconds, enough time for a demoman to get to right spot and blow it up. Random Crits isn't a big deal ether IMO.

To balance it, it should do less damage to all targets, and have only 4 shots.


Edit: It does seem to have a few other downsides speculated, but I don't see any hard evidence.

* Laser goes slower
* Smaller Splash damage
* Can't crit in anyway

 

[Blizzard]

It FEELS like it fires and reloads more slowly than the normal rocket launcher, but that's probably just my imagination.

 

[evlcookie]

So how does one craft the new stuff? What's needed.

How long until the drop resets as well? Maybe i should try idling tonight!

 

[Azure Dream]

Stupid prices for the items in the store, of course...

Edit: A video of the rocket launcher replacement, although he kills a sentry at least three or four times, and has something like Tron skins on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRAVuYcLbw

 

[JackEtc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPZCKW8XHtc

Looks OP as fuck.

"Thank you Valve for not beta testing your weapons"

Fuckin' A.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

So how does one craft the new stuff? What's needed.

How long until the drop resets as well? Maybe i should try idling tonight!

for the guns, you need a blackbox or batallion's backup, depending.

 

[Yeef]

The new rocket launcher seems too powerful. 5 shots, no ammo, what is the downside?

The reload animation is longer, it does less damage vs. buildings and it kills your frame rate.

Also, no random crits.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

At this point, yes it probably won't.

got #93 of the hat!

 

[XeroSauce]

The Cow Mangler 5000's actual stats:

Regular Shots:
-5 Laser Shots (compared to 4 or 3 rockets)
-Same Damage/Self Damage
-Same Rocket Jumping Ability
-Same Reload Speed
-Same Firing Speed/Travel Speed
-Can be fired at any time (no need to reload entire clip, the shots are basically rockets in laser form)
-Can Be Reflected

Alt-Fire: Charge Shot
-Uses All 5 Shots in the clip (instantly requires reload)
-Cannot be used without a full clip
-Takes 3-4 seconds to charge before firing, at which the Soldier moves at 37% speed (a Heavy revving a minigun)
-Projectile has largest splash radius
-Projectile mini-crits enemies and sets them on fire
-Self Damage is a mini-crit + plus fire to self
-Stunned buildings are stunned for 4 seconds (Wrangler drop time)


Cons:
-No Criticals Whatsoever (this includes Random, Kritzkrieg, Flag Cap, and Humiliation). This may be a bug.
-Reduced damage to buildings (unknown percentile, but it's very low)

Okay? No more complaining about constant minicrits or complete fire damage. This is what it is, and as it stands, it is superior to most of the other RLs, however it is not a godlike weapon and should not be treated as such.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I'm enjoying it greatly right now.