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Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion
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Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
Not sure if he's even played Call of Duty. There were 2-3 perfectly good Call of Duty games without rifle grenades and they were pretty damn popular.
Nor is the Hundred Hand Slap/ Blanka's stupid electricity/ LIGHTNING LEGS a tool only for inexperienced players, they're a valuable part of the characters. You can buffer your charge attacks while also doing damage or forcing your opponent to block. You won't find an experienced player who doesn't do that sort of thing, because good luck doing any combos in SFIV with Honda or Chun-Li if you don't know how to buffer. So no, they are not crutches for inexperienced players, they're easy attacks that low level players can use, but experienced players can use in a much more effective, completely different way. Which is exactly what they should be. Probably a better example (which would fit into his FOO category later) is reversals with invincibility frames, by which I mean Ryu's Shoryuken. Lower level players spam it whenever possible and won't be as punished as much for it, experienced players find much more effective uses for it, but will still use it out of desperation/ get hit by it because it's a ridiculously effective attack. So some people just never learn to use anything other than Ryu. But somebody who sticks with Lightning Kick or Hundred Hand Slap without knowing the effective use of it is going to get stomped over and over until they realize they don't know what they're doing and neither did anyone they ever beat.
Whereas the grenade launchers in Call of Duty are a shallow, brute force skill equilizer. More experienced players may choose not to use the grenade launchers, but that doesn't prevent them from getting killed by high-speed, explosive insta-kill projectiles.
Grimm Fandango
Member
Demo's new weapon revealed!
ArtistDude88
Member
Hehe @ the comic
Lol @ the Holiday pack
$20 for 3 things?
Lol @ the Holiday pack
$20 for 3 things?
The Artful Dodger
Member
wow...that's....disappointing...
Cloudius12
Member
update should be later today
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Technically it's $30, but you're saving 33%!
FelixOrion
Poet Centuriate
This is a joke....right?
It has a holiday version of the Balloonicorn and the Balloonicorn costs $17 in the store. The price was hardly a surprise to me.
And screw my bloodclot/swollen leg, I'll be playing some TF2 tonight. I can't even make it into work today because of the blizzard we're having here in Iowa right now anyway.
Cloudius12
Member
Update is live. 523MB.
Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat: Source and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch Updates Released
December 20, 2012 - TF2 Team
Updates to Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat: Source and Half-Life 2: Deathmatch have been released. The updates will be applied automatically when your Steam client is restarted. The major changes include:
Source Engine Changes (TF2, DoD:S, HL2M)
Updated some Big Picture features
Additional improvements for client stability
Team Fortress 2
Australian Christmas has begun!
Added community-contributed winter event items
Added Naughty and Nice winter keys to the Mann Co. Store
Mann Vs. Machine
Added a new tour of duty with unique loot:
Operation Mecha Engine, with 3 new advanced skill missions
New map mvm_bigrock
New Engineer Botkiller items
Added new Engineer robot
Added new Strange Filter items to the Mann Co. Store to support community map makers
Added new checkout dialogs and taunt-activated effect to raise awareness for Community Map Stamps
Added +context_action command (defaults to X for controllers). This will use the action slot if your Canteen contains a charge and will taunt otherwise3
Added +attack3 command (defaults to middle-mouse button)
Added Adult Swim items to the Mann Co. Store
Fixed an exploit that allowed players to be permanently invulnerable
Fixed the Pyro’s airblast not working correctly when facing downhill
Made Force-A-Nature pushback more consistent
Updated pl_barnblitz
Fixed various map exploits
Updated sd_doomsday
Fixed various map exploits
Updated the localization files
MatthewB92
Member
Do I have to get a ticket?
Rickenslacker
Banned
Now to find out exactly what the new weapons do and exactly how much they ruin the game.
Cloudius12
Member
POST THEM DESCRIPTIONS!
Rescue Ranger
Alt-fire: Use metal to pick up buildings from long range
Fires a special bolt that can repair friendly buildings
-34% clip size
-50% max primary ammo on wearer
Self mark for death on building pickup
Loose Cannon
Cannonballs have a fuse time of 2 seconds: fuses can be primed to explode earlier by holding down the fire key
Cannonballs push players back on impact
Cannonballs do not explode on impact
-50% damage on contact with surfaces
Vaccinator
Special Attack: Cycle through resist types.
While healing, provides you and your target with a constant 10% resistance to the selected damage type
+50% ubercharge rate
-66% Overheal build rate
Ubercharge provides 75% resistance to a selected damage type. You are healed for 25% of the matched incoming damage on your heal target
Alt-fire: Use metal to pick up buildings from long range
Fires a special bolt that can repair friendly buildings
-34% clip size
-50% max primary ammo on wearer
Self mark for death on building pickup
Loose Cannon
Cannonballs have a fuse time of 2 seconds: fuses can be primed to explode earlier by holding down the fire key
Cannonballs push players back on impact
Cannonballs do not explode on impact
-50% damage on contact with surfaces
Vaccinator
Special Attack: Cycle through resist types.
While healing, provides you and your target with a constant 10% resistance to the selected damage type
+50% ubercharge rate
-66% Overheal build rate
Ubercharge provides 75% resistance to a selected damage type. You are healed for 25% of the matched incoming damage on your heal target
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
A sticky bomb launcher that pushes people back, shoots slower, and does less damage?
Sounds much too complicated to focus on when playing medic.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
I mean from the description, it sounds like an inferior version of air burst stickies.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Officially adding snakewater and follower would be nice.
DJ Crimson
Banned
Bah, I guess these weapons won't have craft numbers unless they're already used up. Oh well.
FelixOrion
Poet Centuriate
Very situational. As long as the primary fire doesn't use metal to (ala widowmaker), could be okay, but I don't think I'd be using it's alt fire too often.
Is this a grenade launcher? Seems kinda...weak.
Reminds me of those Magic: the Gathering cards that give you protection from shit. That's gonna be really complicated to play, I think.
DJ Crimson
Banned
Woot, just got a #22 craft misc.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Damn you Cloudius.
Hate you!
Hate you!
DJ Crimson
Banned
Now I got a #20 Carl craft. Good day.
The Artful Dodger
Member
The medic gun is kinda cool, the grenade launcher is weird, haven't seen the engy gun in action yet.
Rescue Ranger could be pretty useful if the repair bolt knocks off sappers. Would be a soft counter to spies.
"Alt-Fire: Use metal to pick up buildings from long range" = big buff for Sentry-Jumping if it works like I think it will. Although marked for death makes it pretty useless offensively.
The clip reductions aren't that much of a tradeoff since this would definitely be a weapon to use with a Level 3.
"Alt-Fire: Use metal to pick up buildings from long range" = big buff for Sentry-Jumping if it works like I think it will. Although marked for death makes it pretty useless offensively.
The clip reductions aren't that much of a tradeoff since this would definitely be a weapon to use with a Level 3.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Force of Nature knockback is better too.
Cloudius12
Member
Don't even get me started on the custom maps I think should be added to the game. If I were in charge of TF2 I would spend like maybe a days worth of key revenue to buy a bunch of custom maps.
The demoman has been like, the most powerful class in the game (melee aside) with stickybombs, for like, ever. Do you really want him to get an even BETTER weapon?
The Artful Dodger
Member
This gun doesn't really make him better, it just changes how the grenade launcher works...
I am unconvinced that there would really be a vastly different option that would not be better or inferior. And if someone added cluster bombs you could still say that "changes how the grenade launcher works" if you're going to use that language.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
Something worse than quickshits?! 0_o
The Artful Dodger
Member
I don't think it's worse than the quickfix...I can see how it can be useful, plus it builds up that uber ridiculously quick.
Kuro Madoushi
Unconfirmed Member
terrdactycalsrock
Member
Im really digging the loose cannon. You can prime it for short, medium, or long range. And while it does take a damage penalty by hitting surfaces you can bounce the cannon balls off of walls
The Artful Dodger
Member
you can knock back folks into sticky traps
DJ Crimson
Banned
You could make a really good profit off that. People love that craft number but I'm sure you already know that.
jaundicejuice
Member
New gear seems really MvM-centric and not all that practical for regular use.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Opened a nice crate and got...Doc's Holiday
ArtistDude88
Member
11 o'clock too late for you old folk? Everyone just up and left
I don't know shit about trading. I just figured anything below #100 is good? And I hear people like miscs.
True, especially the medic gun. Wave specific damage prevention.
People actually pay more because of a loose Douglas Adams reference? Sheesh, and I thought I was a nerd.