ViewtifulJC
Banned
we just need a list of good TF2 servers. No instant respawn, no 32 players, no lol4chanmemebullshit map rotation, no 100% crits, no 2Fort, no Hightower, ya know.
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Team Fortress 2 |OT4| Official Halo Thread of Polearms and High Fashion
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Regret Upon Approval
Member
Damn son, all the driving tricks?
You should've apologized to him and asked for permission to continue playing.
Hmmm. Do you people visit CapThatPoint? It meets all of your requirements for above (although hightower may occasionally show up in a vote).
Here's a list of the server settings:
server address: tf2.capthatpoint.com
Round time (mp_timelimit): 35min
Max rounds (mp_maxrounds): 2
CTF Caps to win (tf_flag_caps_per_round): 3
Random Crits (tf_weapon_criticals): Off (0)
Fixed weapon spreads (tf_use_fixed_weaponspreads): On (1)
Weapon damage spread (tf_damage_disablespread): Off (1)
Replays: Enabled
(Some maps have more than 2 rounds, like KOTH, and some map times are extended based on that map)
The biggest problem it seems to have (aside from NSQuote abuse) is that it's pretty empty, because people aren't playing on it. Seems like a circular problem to me.
SteveWinwood
Member
to be fair thats a pretty big problem
The Artful Dodger
Member
I had some guy on a server explode about how demo was practically useless now cause of the sticky change. I get how it's different but like plenty of folks are doing just fine with demo still.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
demos will just have to learn to hit pipes now
or go demoknight that's clearly the way Valve is pushing why deny it
let Gaben in breh
or go demoknight that's clearly the way Valve is pushing why deny it
let Gaben in breh
xrayregime
Member
Is the capthatpoint server up 24/7? I tried to add it to my favorites early today and it told me the server was not responding.
You just need to be more accurate with your stickies if you're playing the offensive sticky launcher style, you can't just throw them in a general area any more.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Cant believe it took them 6 years to nerf demo and heavy
Thanks to Artful Dodger and some random L.I.N.C.O.L.N. player who traded me ingredients for the B.A.S.E. jumper. It is everything I hoped it would be. The max clip size for the Air Strike is 8 but that is still plenty of rockets for shooting at things.
The only downside is that quickfix medics don't glide too. They need to update quick fix so they get pogo etc. jumps and can ride along for all jump maps, plus glide with the parachute.
The only downside is that quickfix medics don't glide too. They need to update quick fix so they get pogo etc. jumps and can ride along for all jump maps, plus glide with the parachute.
Played some this afternoon, like the changes in the update a lot.
I'm better at aiming pipes than spamming sticky bombs so the nerf makes me a better Demoman than before.
The Solider's parachute was kind of annoying for Hightower but it makes them a pretty easy target with how slowly they move.
I'm better at aiming pipes than spamming sticky bombs so the nerf makes me a better Demoman than before.
The Solider's parachute was kind of annoying for Hightower but it makes them a pretty easy target with how slowly they move.
The Artful Dodger
Member
All the whiny demomen on tf2 got through...
SteveWinwood
Member
demos arent an issue
heavies were
and minisentries are
demos are whatever
heavies were
and minisentries are
demos are whatever
Rickenslacker
Banned
Hahaha oh man
ViewtifulJC
Banned
PUB SPAM DEMO IS BACK BABY!!!!!!!
but minisentries still in the game lololol
but minisentries still in the game lololol
The Artful Dodger
Member
They said they may want to nerf mid-air sticky detonations...which would be so much worse for many demomen.
A nerf is in order but not to the extent of what Valve did so i'm happy with this. Something needs to happen in the future though. Giving stickies a blast radius ramp-up could work i think (don't remember where i read that idea). So you cant throw a sticky down, det it immediately and wipe out a team. You'd have to actually aim a bit and make sure the sticky is right on top of your target.
I swear Pyros have never been nerfed since the game came out. They had it coming.
SteveWinwood
Member
They were definitely nerfed in the very early days.
Edit: For some reason I went patch hunting on the wiki.
It wasn't until 2010 he got an actual nerf to the normal flamethrower:
Although looking ahead over the next few months he ended up mostly getting all of that back piecemeal.
The Backburner is probably what I was thinking about because they removed the extra health it gave and some other nonsense ('08) and then upped the ammo for airblast by a ton ('11).
So I was mostly wrong.
Those people are dumb, that's the point of the pyro
Hmmm, all I remember was Pyros complaining about being useless against long range people which prompted them to add the airblast.
SteveWinwood said:
Does anybody even use the Backburner nowadays? Pyro is I think my least-played class.
Technosteve
Banned
all the new items require money to buy and wtf are collector's items the fucking scam is this?
Wolf Akela
Member
From what I see, Degreaser <=> Phlog > FT > BB > Rainblower.
Gentleman Jack
Member
Today I learned if you have the huntsman and a pyro ignites your arrow, you get a dancing flame over your head during the conga.
Best update.
Best update.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I really wish Valve would overhaul the HUD at this point. Custom HUDs are nice and all, but some common features between them are that they center relevant information and show exact health numbers when IDing people and buildings, so why not officially incorporate that by now? The letterboxing while spectating really serves no purpose either, and if you redeemed the Rift ticket you still have an out of place button tacked onto your main menu that directs you to a three year old redemption code that no longer even works.
Having official crosshair outline support would be nice too, so you don't have to do any HUD crosshair overlay fiddling. CS:GO allows for that and allows you to squish the HUD closer together if that's how you like it, so I really want that incorporated into TF2.
Having official crosshair outline support would be nice too, so you don't have to do any HUD crosshair overlay fiddling. CS:GO allows for that and allows you to squish the HUD closer together if that's how you like it, so I really want that incorporated into TF2.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Degreaser is generally the best. It gives you the most flexibility all around.
Folks that use Phlog cause its ridiculous and you can amass kills with it fairly mindlessly, BB isn't as good as the FT but I've seen people use it devastatingly especialyl cause some of those people are good at reflecting and alotta people aren't expecting that when they come against the Backburner.
Rainblower is for cosmetics and takes up half the screen.
I thought demos have been one of, if not THE, most powerful class in the game since release.
Back at release, there wasn't even airblast to help against them. You just died, and cried a little to yourself while you respawned.
And now their charging is even better and the stickies are back to normal.
And the axetinguisher/degreaser combo got nerfed -- a nerf for one of the classes that can try to counter the demo.Wolf Akela
Member
Back then, Grenade Launcher's clip size was 6. Pills also exploded on contact even after bouncing. The idea was that you could get 1337 hits by bouncing them off walls (like in Meet the Demo). People just rolled grenades across the floor ("grenade bowling").
Demo has always been the most power class due to their damage and versatility. Highest DPS, generally fastest rollout, area denial, can deal with every class fairly well.
Demo has always been the most power class due to their damage and versatility. Highest DPS, generally fastest rollout, area denial, can deal with every class fairly well.
Regret Upon Approval
Member
I thought demos have been one of, if not THE, most powerful class in the game since release.
Back at release, there wasn't even airblast to help against them. You just died, and cried a little to yourself while you respawned.
And now their charging is even better and the stickies are back to normal.
I find I get my ass kicked the least when playing Demoman.
If you can somewhat aim and bounce pills somewhere towards enemies, you'll do just fine.
The Artful Dodger
Member
I actually like this idea alot.
SteveWinwood
Member
I thought demos have been one of, if not THE, most powerful class in the game since release.
Back at release, there wasn't even airblast to help against them. You just died, and cried a little to yourself while you respawned.
And now their charging is even better and the stickies are back to normal.
no see this is counterbalanced from player skill
demos not the easiest thing to play well
its okay to have something grossly powerful as long as its grossly difficult to pull off
mini sentries are set it and forget it where a 2 year old could do it
and literal monkeys could ruin a server with a heavy
why they needed nerfs
they did too much with too little bother
The Artful Dodger
Member
Degreaser/Axtinguisher combo is not the counter for demo a pyro would use. A pill to the face would instantly stop that idea. Degreaser and flare is usually the best way to stop a demo cause they'll die almost instantly, and if not, give it a moment and they will.
The reasoning behind the nerf I guess was the mid-air sticky detonation, which makes sense, sometimes that's bullshit and there's no way to counter that. It didn't piss me off too much either cause very few demos are actually able to do that effectively and consistently.
Also I agree. Minis are the devil. At least now you can take them out while they're being constructed, haha glad they fixed that "glitch"
Also...
The reasoning behind the nerf I guess was the mid-air sticky detonation, which makes sense, sometimes that's bullshit and there's no way to counter that. It didn't piss me off too much either cause very few demos are actually able to do that effectively and consistently.
Also I agree. Minis are the devil. At least now you can take them out while they're being constructed, haha glad they fixed that "glitch"
Also...
That's the point though. The nerf to axtinguisher is an indirect degreaser downside because it means pyros may run a different axe instead. With a different axe, there's less reason to run degreaser unless you're purely aiming for more airblasts and less damage.
Wolf Akela
Member
Medic+Soldier/Demo/Heavy renders mini SG Engies nearly useless. Persistent spies with tape recorders also make life hell for them.
The Artful Dodger
Member
Um...Not really. The Homewrecker let's to stop sappers so that makes the pyro better all around for sentry defense especially on defense.
and the Powerjack (which many degreaser pyros run anyways) increases speed and gets health on a kill so it's pretty cool to have an instant switch too.
The Axtinguisher was largely redundant with the flare. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I get what it does by changing that up. I just wish the Neon Annihilator was useful.
Also the degreaser/flare combo is devastating. you can airblast switch to flare and get that mini crit before most players know what hit them, or hit them with a flare and switch back to degreaser to reflect spam.
Degreaser all around is the best pyro weapon.
SteveWinwood
Member
i never said they were uncounterable
just that they were the easiest thing to squeeze an unfair amount of results out of
The Artful Dodger
Member
Yeah, my biggest complain about it, is it yields the greatest rewards for the littlest amount of work. At least a phlog you have to build up damage and survive long enough, a lvl 3 you have to build up and maintain (and spycheck, and not yell at pyros to do it).
Minis were designed by Gaben to prevent too much fun from being had on TF2.
Why didn't they nerf degreaser instead of axetinguisher then?
ArtistDude88
Member
I just realized how much TF2 discussion is actually happening here these days! Whoa.
Also, I have an itch to play some MvM sometime. If someone starts a game, holla!
Also, I have an itch to play some MvM sometime. If someone starts a game, holla!
The Artful Dodger
Member
Why didn't they nerf degreaser instead of axetinguisher then?
Cause Degreaser is a solid weapon. I think the idea behind nerfing the Axtinguisher is cause it's generally thought of as a "free-kill", if you can close in to get that melee hit 9 times out of 10 they're going to die (unless it's a heavy or somebody overhealed).
Artistdude...Parachute Zatoichi or Caber fights... We need to do this.
ArtistDude88
Member
And just think, there are at least 4 more (hopefully) big updates this year, the Moonbase update, End of the Line, Halloween and Christmas. I've also heard talk of a possible second community created update this year (one of the Lil Guardian Pyro guys have said they are making a video for it) so it seems like we're in for a pretty good year for TF2.