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TEKKEN 7 |OT| How I killed your mother

Man, really starting to get bummed out over these PS4 online issues. Can't believe I still haven't been able to join a single goddamn ranked match online. This is some bullshit.

It's broken. It's going to stay broken until they patch it. There's no patch yet. Stop trying to play ranked.
 

DrAg0nBoY

Member
I am really thinking about getting back into Tekken. The last one I really played was Tekken 5. Just a quick question, who are some great Steve Fox players? Is NiN still around and as good as he was in T5?
 

Danielsan

Member
Yet another day at work and all I want to do is go home and play Tekken...

Still maining Asuka, had some decent games online yesterday. Will definitely try to pick up a second character this week though. I'm leaning towards Feng.

Edit: Also I've still not finished the story mode...
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tekken/comments/6fcbbk/seems_that_2000_match_will_unlock_everything_on/

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Holy shit. I must be getting close to 2000 actually. Maybe not, actually.
 
I need to learn what quick pokes Yoshi has to get him out of pressure that's safe on block (edit: the opponent's hits are I mean in case it isn't clear). I'm still in the d/f+4 mindset but that doesn't seem to be the quickest option anymore and I keep eating hits whenever players are in my face.
I'm too lazy for practice mode.

Hope I'm not answering too late. And that I'm not going too deep but...

Going strictly by frame data, the only thing faster than DF4 are jabs, and of course flash.

i6 - 1+4 (Sword Flash)
i8 - 1+4 (NSS stance Flash)
i11 - NSS db+1 (low jab)
i10 - 1 or 2 jab
i12 - DF4 or 3 (high)
i13 - DF1
i14 - B22 or CD2 (f,n,d,df+2) or Rage Drive (f,n,d,df+1+2)
i15 - DF2 or UF3 or WS21 (1SS)

The safest of these on block is 1 jab (+1) and next up is DF1 (-4).

DF4 is -9 on block. So technically it's safe, but you lose momentum.

Your best bet for a poke that doesn't set you back is DF1. Seeing as how it's -4 (as well as the followup hit, DF1,2), it actually functions as decent Flash bait. It's only one less frame on startup than the DF4 and about same range.

Any of Yoshis moves that leave you around -4 or -5 or better on block set the opponent up for eating the Flash if they press buttons:

+4
  • More than one B1 (Be warned, these dont jail on block, you can be duck punished. Also, only use this setup with NSS, as multiple B1 spins push them out of range of the 1SS Flash)
+1
  • B1 (a single spin is very good on block)
0 to +2
  • UF3+4, B1, 3+4 (Poison wind to Steel Fist)
-1 to 0
  • UF3+4, B1 (first 2 hits of poison wind string)
-4 (Trades with jabs, interrupts i11 or faster)
  • DF1
  • DF1,2
  • F2
  • F2,DB2 (Remember, Yoshi can Flash from crouch now, with WS+1+4)
-5 (Loses to jabs, trades with i12 moves, interrupts i13 or faster)
  • DB2 (and any variation of, like DF1,2,DB2 / BT 2,DB2 / WS1,2,DB2)
  • FF3
  • NSS WS 2 (This indeed sets up Back-Turned Flash! Loses to jabs, trades with i12, beats anything slower)
  • DF3 (use at wall only due to pushback)

Sorry. Didn't mean to go into a flash bait list. But once you start talking about pokes and frames, and Yoshi, it becomes relevant.
 
Man, really starting to get bummed out over these PS4 online issues. Can't believe I still haven't been able to join a single goddamn ranked match online. This is some bullshit.

It's broken. It's going to stay broken until they patch it. There's no patch yet. Stop trying to play ranked.

Oh, so it's not just me. I was lucky enough to get like 3 matches in like 30+ attempts. We'll just have to wait until they fix it I suppose.
 
Oh, so it's not just me. I was lucky enough to get like 3 matches in like 30+ attempts. We'll just have to wait until they fix it I suppose.

Tournament matches you will sync up with 70-80% of the time (This normal becuase just becuase you clicked on the room, it could have been filled up with people before you jumped in. Say if there is 3 spots left, and you try to join but it doesn't let you, its most the time becuase 3 people got in before you) Personally I only click on GREEN BAR tournament rooms, but you can choose what internet connection level you want.

But just because your in a tournament room you still need a host that knows how to run the room.

If the host is good he will kick the red bar internet connections. That is why some of you are being kicked after you get into the tournament room IMHO.

Don't take it personal, I have green bars most the time, because I choose green bar rooms. But sometimes I've gone in and the host says i'm red bar and I leave or got kicked.

If the host is good he will know he can start the tournament even if there are not the maximum amount of players in the room. He can start a 8 player tournament room with 4 players if he wants.

Tournaments rooms you will get 95%+ of the matches completed in a tournament room.
 
The advice for making ranked matches work provided earlier in this thread works

You just go into the match list and wait - it should have that "Searching for.." text at the bottom - do not hit 'update match list' unless it does not have that "Searching for.." text at the bottom. You'll get a challenge in about a minute and it'll connect when you say yes
 
Match list works for me about half the time and I'm still getting drops every so often. Also, is there a way to do that with the Player Match section?
 
It's funny how this game can be either really relaxing (Practice Mode) or really stressful (online). I was enjoying playing around with new combos for Xiaoyu, then went online to do a ranked match and some Jin was playing volleyball with me. Dude wouldn't even accept a runback. And then a surprisingly good Eliza, who is really annoying with those supers. At least I ended up saving face against a decent Asuka.

I hate that stage of learning a character where things you think you have down cold don't come out at all in the heat of battle. Gotta get the timing hardwired in the brain, kept missing my juggles.

But yeah, the trick to ranked matches connecting is, just stay in the match list and don't do anything. Eventually you'll get a challenge pop up. Accept that and it will always sync. If you try to initiate it yourself with someone in the list, it'll pretty much always fail.
 
You don't get treasure chests for losing. It's wins.


Look at his rank. Pretty low. Unless you can get 2000 wins and still stay at low rank, or if he's cheating, it should be 2000 PLAYED matches.

This isn't about winning treasure chests, this is about the game keeping tracks of how many matches you play and after the 2000th match, it unlocks everything for you. This mechanic is similar to how Tekken 3 unlocks all its extras previously.
 

fatalexe

Member
Man this game is hard or I just suck at fighting games. Its difficult enough for me to memorize the combos but playing online is entirely different ballgame, having to know what the opponent's character movelist. Right now I just block high and low randomly and I'm getting destroyed using Alisa. Then a random 10 hit comes out against me and I eat half of the string.

The only character I memorized the whole movelist is Kazuya and that's thanks to me playing Tekken Revolution on the PS3 yet I suck at Kazuya because lol it's hard to execute even if I get his playstyle which is to create spacing and pressure/whiff punish with EWGF.

This game is still great and fun though, love using Alisa right now (even if I don't know the optimal moves/pressure/combos) and been playing for 2 hours on PS4 without issues (surprisingly since it didn't work for the past few days).
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
"So this is that weird Japan stuff people were talking about..."

Speaking of Leo, why was he confirmed female in Tekken Tag 2 and is now officially a guy? Not that it matters, it's just kinda weird. If you watch his ending, he clutches his chest when Yoshimitsu's tentacles twitch. It's cute. Guess Leo is just very feminine :)

Leo is whatever you want him/her to be. f1+2 with him/her is the meatiest animation I've seen in ages, BOOF
 
I'm surprised and relieved by how unpopular Akuma seems to be.

Man this game is hard or I just suck at fighting games. Its difficult enough for me to memorize the combos but playing online is entirely different ballgame, having to know what the opponent's character movelist. Right now I just block high and low randomly and I'm getting destroyed using Alisa. Then a random 10 hit comes out against me and I eat half of the string.

The only character I memorized the whole movelist is Kazuya and that's thanks to me playing Tekken Revolution on the PS3 yet I suck at Kazuya because lol it's hard to execute even if I get his playstyle which is to create spacing and pressure/whiff punish with EWGF.

This game is still great and fun though, love using Alisa right now (even if I don't know the optimal moves/pressure/combos) and been playing for 2 hours on PS4 without issues (surprisingly since it didn't work for the past few days).

Just watch some top level Alisa players on youtube. Chanel was the best Alisa in Korea last I checked. See what moves he uses and when, how he punishes certain moves etc. You'd be surprised how much you learn just by watching.

Here's one to get you started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQd03CNhco4
 
The more time I put into the game, I more I feel like I can play any character. Obviously learning the unique moves of every character is gonna take a LOOONNNNG while but I can at least do some absolute basic stuff with every single character. I LOVE this, so many of the characters are just so fun to play. Playing Katarina for now but I still can't decide who else I'm gonna play!

That was the first game series I worked on D:
Holy Shit really? I loved that game back in the day!
I suggest you put Master Raven in a swimsuit >.>
.... I'm gonna get right on that actually.
 
Playing the Mishima story on hardest difficulty with players I don't main is harder than I thought. Expected cake walk city but got really frustrated in the first 5-8 matches.
 

fatalexe

Member
Just watch some top level Alisa players on youtube. Chanel was the best Alisa in Korea last I checked. See what moves he uses and when, how he punishes certain moves etc. You'd be surprised how much you learn just by watching.

Here's one to get you started: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQd03CNhco4

Thanks, he's good and it looks really easy doing those moves. I'm still 1st Dan so nobody plays like that such as respecting pokes so everyone is mashing buttons and spamming lows. I'm back dashing and just punishing move spammers by doing a running 3,4 and it works pretty well.
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
Amazing! I remember replaying the life and soul of out a demo that came with one of the PS1 magazines here in the UK back in the day. I never saw the full game in store. Ah, pre internet days...

Ah, it was actually a remake/remaster that never got off the ground sadly, I'm not THAT old :p

Did get to see the pre-alpha version of Bioshock that Eidos decided not to produce, whoops on them.
 

Danielsan

Member
I'm surprised and relieved by how unpopular Akuma seems to be.
Yeah, I haven't run into a ton of Akuma players yet. Ran into one yesterday and struggled the first match, but took 3 matches from him (in ranked) after that. I feel that patience is key when fighting Akuma. Just keep your distance, side step the fireball nonsense and let them come to you.
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
Weren't single player modes a pretty big part of T6 and TTT2?

What happened here, this game has been in development for years?

No, there was no cinematic story mode at all for TTT2, single player content was sparse.

If you're buying a fighting game for single player content...then probably stick to NRS games.
 

Marvel

could never
Can't get over how addictive juggles and wall carry is in this game. I don't get to do it too often atm bc I am green but boy does it feel great when I do.

I love the metal like blocking sound effect too.
 

Spuck-uk

Banned
I didn't say it's useless, but if you're in a bad spot where you would actually want to use rage drive, you don't want your back turned to someone who is going to try to poke you to death. But hey, I'm not a Tekken god. I suppose it's possible to do the rage drive out of a combo, but I'm not that sophisticated yet.

It's probably the best rage drive in the game, completely impossible to block on reaction.

If you're just backturning randomly then you're bad, it's not something wrong with the character.
 
Xiaoyu's Rage Drive?

It's like my fifth day of tekken and I know that's arguably the best Rage Drive in the game. I think Claudio's may be underrated too, the mixup that follows can be incredibly hard to deal with because it all happens so fast.

I love how every character FEELS strong and has such great tools.
 

Danielsan

Member
So I was wondering. How do you guys innitiate Rage Arts? I mapped 1 + 4 on R1 and 3 + 2 on R2 on my stick. So I'm now forced to used the actual command to get it out. I'm wondering if I should map it to L1 though as in the heat of combat I sometimes mess up the command and a different move comes out.
 
So I was wondering. How do you guys innitiate Rage Arts? I mapped 1 + 4 on R1 and 3 + 2 on R2 on my stick. So I'm now forced to used the actual command to get it out. I'm wondering if I should map it to L1 though as in the heat of combat I sometimes mess up the command and a different move comes out.

I mapped 1+2 to R1, 3+4 to R2, 1+4 to L1 and 2+3 to L2.

A lot of Rage Arts are just a press of the R1 or R2 while some also require a directional input too. It's quite easy tbh.
 
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