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Tekken |OT| of Tag Assaulting the Devil, Ogres, Wild Animals & MILFs (Bitcap Warning)
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Flying Wonkey
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TZ's legend doesn't explain everything apparently. 
Assuming you already know what 1,2,3,4 means (LP,RP,LK,RK).....
I believe jail refers to move that keep you in block stun for the rest of the moves string.
Law's 4,3,4 kicks......
So If you block Law's first 4, your stuck there blocking the following 3 move. Since it no longer jails you can do something after blocking the first 4 and he starts the 3. Like duck under the 3 so you can get a free standing up move (ws) move to hit. Launch in some special cases.
Natural combo, moves that flow naturally together for hitconfirms. If you get hit by the first strike the moves that follow hit you too.
Like 1,2 jabs, If the first 1 hits you can get the 2 in there for free damage since the combo is natural. Law's B+2,3,4 move isn't a natural combo since even though you got hit by the first B+2, you can still block the 3 or 4.
If its a number that has a minus in front of it like -12 or minus -13 it means how much of a frame disadvantage you are after they block your move. Generic hop kicks (uf+4) are -12 frames on block so If they block that move, they can punish with moves that are less than 12 frames. Usually jabs.
Since d/b+3 is apparently -14 on block, If your opponent blocks that low any move they have that is 14 frames and under they can hit you with. So d/b+3 is sort of a bit more unsafe to just throw out now.
Haven't touched Tekken in quite a bit though so my memory is a bit hazy but I think thats what they usually meant.
Throavium said:
Assuming you already know what 1,2,3,4 means (LP,RP,LK,RK).....
I believe jail refers to move that keep you in block stun for the rest of the moves string.
Law's 4,3,4 kicks......
So If you block Law's first 4, your stuck there blocking the following 3 move. Since it no longer jails you can do something after blocking the first 4 and he starts the 3. Like duck under the 3 so you can get a free standing up move (ws) move to hit. Launch in some special cases.
Natural combo, moves that flow naturally together for hitconfirms. If you get hit by the first strike the moves that follow hit you too.
Like 1,2 jabs, If the first 1 hits you can get the 2 in there for free damage since the combo is natural. Law's B+2,3,4 move isn't a natural combo since even though you got hit by the first B+2, you can still block the 3 or 4.
If its a number that has a minus in front of it like -12 or minus -13 it means how much of a frame disadvantage you are after they block your move. Generic hop kicks (uf+4) are -12 frames on block so If they block that move, they can punish with moves that are less than 12 frames. Usually jabs.
Since d/b+3 is apparently -14 on block, If your opponent blocks that low any move they have that is 14 frames and under they can hit you with. So d/b+3 is sort of a bit more unsafe to just throw out now.
Haven't touched Tekken in quite a bit though so my memory is a bit hazy but I think thats what they usually meant.
I'm a little bit confused about the Devils. Didn't they announce new designs for Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya? But when I look at TTT2 videos, Jin Devil looks the same as in Tekken 6: BR.
By the way, I'm gonna buy two arcade sticks later and really try to become a hardcore Tekken player, and start playing against others in the Philippines. Having played this series since the first one, I need to start my transition from casual to pro.
Oh, and will Unknown be playable?
By the way, I'm gonna buy two arcade sticks later and really try to become a hardcore Tekken player, and start playing against others in the Philippines. Having played this series since the first one, I need to start my transition from casual to pro.
Oh, and will Unknown be playable?
Flying Wonkey
Member
Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya are confirmed for Tekken Tag Tournament 2 Prologue. (Picture Gran Turismo 5 Prologue but for TTT2)
http://www.tekkenzone.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2453
^^You can see the new designs in the attachments.
No idea If their new designs will be going to TTT2 Arcade (Via customization) or eventual console release though.
Oh and Unknown was playable in the original console TTT so Its a good bet she will be playable in TTT2 console.
So much Tekken is around
Btw good luck with the serious business transition. The new devils in prologue are the Tekken Blood Vengeance versions, maybe they will be included in the console version as alternates?
Time for some more high level T6 goodness, royal rumble!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiDvbkhe_QU
Time for some more high level T6 goodness, royal rumble!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiDvbkhe_QU
ThanksFlying Wonkey said:TZ's legend doesn't explain everything apparently.
Assuming you already know what 1,2,3,4 means (LP,RP,LK,RK).....
I believe jail refers to move that keep you in block stun for the rest of the moves string.
Law's 4,3,4 kicks......
So If you block Law's first 4, your stuck there blocking the following 3 move. Since it no longer jails you can do something after blocking the first 4 and he starts the 3. Like duck under the 3 so you can get a free standing up move (ws) move to hit. Launch in some special cases.
Natural combo, moves that flow naturally together for hitconfirms. If you get hit by the first strike the moves that follow hit you too.
Like 1,2 jabs, If the first 1 hits you can get the 2 in there for free damage since the combo is natural. Law's B+2,3,4 move isn't a natural combo since even though you got hit by the first B+2, you can still block the 3 or 4.
If its a number that has a minus in front of it like -12 or minus -13 it means how much of a frame disadvantage you are after they block your move. Generic hop kicks (uf+4) are -12 frames on block so If they block that move, they can punish with moves that are less than 12 frames. Usually jabs.
Since d/b+3 is apparently -14 on block, If your opponent blocks that low any move they have that is 14 frames and under they can hit you with. So d/b+3 is sort of a bit more unsafe to just throw out now.
Haven't touched Tekken in quite a bit though so my memory is a bit hazy but I think thats what they usually meant.
Tizoc said:
Trading stuff usually isn't beneficial as the trade-in-credit is very low at most places.
LOL @ #2
I have to worry about school. Already taking 19 credits.
Special Editions are MUST if they include amazing stuff. Wished Namco had gone the Dark Souls route with Hybrid and kept all the pre-order items at the regular $39.99 price. I was also hoping for PS3 themes/avatars rather than PS Home content. Who actually uses PSN Home? I don't even know what people do there.
Prepare for your minds to be blown People:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WW0GKBC2zc
Raven.... <3 <3 <3 <3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WW0GKBC2zc
Raven.... <3 <3 <3 <3
No one knows yet. It might end up on Wii U as well if it's multiplatform (which it most likely will be). Tekken is no longer exclusively associated with Sony like it used to be. I guess that's a good thing so the franchise can get broader appeal as it is an excellent franchise that Nintendo loyalists should experience. The quality also shouldn't suffice as it does with other multiplatform titles since they built the arcade version first with everything already set and in place. The console versions usually only get some extra modes or patches anyway which shouldn't impact the core experience. Hoping for Tekken Ball and Bowl modes with a typical Force mode. Forget Scenario Campaign.weepy said:
Sayah said:
As long as this trend that sees the need for some "serious storytelling" in fighting games persists? Don't bet on it. :lol
But honestly, a StoryMode doesn't HAVE to be such a dreadful component of a fighting game release. The main thing is that it a) should actually be enjoyable to play and even more importantly b) it should NOT be a vehicle that serves to section off content especially pertinent to the main focus of the game (re: legit characters, stages).
As long as nothing is stopping me from going into the game Day 1 and playing as any non boss-level character I want, they can feel free to cram as much content as they want.
I played through scenario campaign once and did some money grinding on the Mokujin stage, that's it.
I feel like a lot of the hate for Scenario Campaign is because people think they have to play it to unlock stuff, which isn't true except for a few head items (I think). If Namco had made this fact clearer it would've saved them and people a lot of headaches.
I feel like a lot of the hate for Scenario Campaign is because people think they have to play it to unlock stuff, which isn't true except for a few head items (I think). If Namco had made this fact clearer it would've saved them and people a lot of headaches.
TreIII said:
I like good stories but the problem is that mostly all fighting games don't do it so well. To the point that you wish they hadn't done a story mode to begin with and diverted those efforts elsewhere. We already have character openings and endings which are good enough IMO. Where stories are really needed is single player games. I eventually get bored of many SP games if they lack a good story. Like FFXIII. AMAZING battle system yet a good story could have made the game so much better.
On another point, I liked Devil Within from Tekken 5. It had some good gameplay and puzzles. I would like something like that again. Scenario Campaign again? No way. The only reason people played through it all was to get the trophies or to gather fight money.
Sayah said:
I hear ya.
It's just that, I would think it would be hypocritical of me to hate on the notion of a Story Modes entirely, when I had some good times with the likes of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure's Story Mode (PSX ver.), pretty much every story-mode equivalent in every Soul game ranging from Edge/Blade to Calibur III, and even the Visual Novel antics that permeate the likes of KOF, Melty Blood, Guilty Gear and etc. Such things like these can be fun diversions and, if done well, can make me "care" more about the characters beyond their frames and hitboxes. :lol
But in any case, that's what they should be: Diversions. As long as they can stay in their lane, I'll be perfectly fine with that.
sixteen-bit
Member
Leo's cross-under shoulder check juggles reminds me of Yun's Genei Jin troll combos in SSFIVAE hahaAAK said:
_dementia said:
Step aside Yun, Lili is now the ultimate troll!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zen_uQdJ6o
sixteen-bit
Member
I literally laughed out loudAAK said:
Worry not. From all the Tekken games I've played, the team is far from being lazy. I'm sure the game will be brimming with new content. Its battle system may be similar to Tekken 6 but Harada indicated a lot of new possibilities in his E3 interview. Watch it here. He talks about screening the practice mode on the Wii U controller which will make things a whole lot more interesting. The stage editor will also be a really nice addition. First time in a "traditional" fighter (as far as I know) that you can actually create your own stages. There is also strong possibilities for mini-games (assuming that since it's a Wii U title). It cannot possibly at all be a simple port of Tekken 6. I very highly doubt that's the case.weepy said:
Tekken team is working on five different titles (Tekken Wii U, Tekken 3DS, Tekken Tag 2, TekkenXStreet Fighter, Tekken Hybrid). Harada said the team has been working on the series for so long that everyone knows what to do and how to do it. They are on top of everything (this is from a recent twitter post).
A whole new dimension of gameplay. It will probably get patched, though. Would be really cool to have two characters attacking from left and right.AAK said:
I also forgot to mention how now you can also splat a person, then unsplat the person, and then resplat the person against the wall for really nice damage.
DryEyeRelief
Member
USD already posted this in the T6 thread but might as well:
Electric Wind God Fridays. Tekken 6 play at Super arcade
http://www.twitch.tv/avoidingthepuddle
Electric Wind God Fridays. Tekken 6 play at Super arcade
http://www.twitch.tv/avoidingthepuddle
sixteen-bit
Member
Nice, thanks for the heads upDryEyeRelief said:
Flying Wonkey
Member
Combo?
B+2,3,4 is a move string with mix up potential on the 4.
*I'm not entirely sure (I don't play Law)* but I believe it is a "NCc": Natural combo only if the first hit was a counter hit, the first B+2 on counter hit guarantees only the following 3. I believe though, The 4 can still be blocked even if B+2 was a counterhit.
I don't have my console with me so you can go try this out for yourself. I believe in practice mode there is a "Stand to Guard" function that you can set the opponent to. It makes the opponent take the first hit and block all following moves.
NC are used to refer to moves that give you guaranteed damage upon successfully landed the initial hit. Same with a Juggle with bounds or wall bounds, you get the launch and you get guaranteed damage on the following. (provide you don't screw it up) So there isn't much to differentiate there.
Blah so much information is required to keep up with this game. :razz:
B+2,3,4 is a move string with mix up potential on the 4.
*I'm not entirely sure (I don't play Law
)* but I believe it is a "NCc": Natural combo only if the first hit was a counter hit, the first B+2 on counter hit guarantees only the following 3. I believe though, The 4 can still be blocked even if B+2 was a counterhit.I don't have my console with me so you can go try this out for yourself. I believe in practice mode there is a "Stand to Guard" function that you can set the opponent to. It makes the opponent take the first hit and block all following moves.
NC are used to refer to moves that give you guaranteed damage upon successfully landed the initial hit. Same with a Juggle with bounds or wall bounds, you get the launch and you get guaranteed damage on the following. (provide you don't screw it up) So there isn't much to differentiate there.
Blah so much information is required to keep up with this game. :razz:
RelentlessRolento
Member
eBay has always been good to me.Sayah said:
Also don't get everything near release. Pick up what you will play the most and work your way down. Game prices drop fast as fuck.
Also CheapAssGamer.com is your friend... Has been my best gaming friend for years due to the amount I can game due to all my savings.
Like Flying Wonkey said, you differentiate between a natural combo (the following hits are guaranteed on normal hit), natural counter hit combo (speaks for itself), and combo/juggle.CPS2 said:
Bound and wall combos are just parts of a juggle. The exception is a low parry combo which doesn't include a bound (or the low parry itself is the bound).
Hmm... maybe I can add a section for explaining Strings a little bit more.
Anyways, Japan is giving me a happy birthday with an awesome TTT2 STREAM!
Anyways, Japan is giving me a happy birthday with an awesome TTT2 STREAM!
Flying Wonkey
Member
Gratz
Hip pip, DORYA!
Hip pip, DORYA!
Thanks for the wishes guys but Oh ho, it's not stopping there, Europe is joining the party!
Tekken Force Season 1 Finals stream is live!
http://www.twitch.tv/tekkenlondon/
but Oh ho, it's not stopping there, Europe is joining the party!Tekken Force Season 1 Finals stream is live!
http://www.twitch.tv/tekkenlondon/
Flying Wonkey
Member
Darn might have to settle with the recordings from Tekken Force. The stream quality isn't doing much good unfortunately.
I'm just looking at the recorded streams.AAK said:Hmm... maybe I can add a section for explaining Strings a little bit more.
Anyways, Japan is giving me a happy birthday with an awesome TTT2 STREAM!
And Happy Birthday.
I also use Ebay and have had a pretty good experience. I don't buy just released games from there, though. The only reason I want to pre-order Skyward Sword and Hybrid is due to the special editions. The weak man inside me can't resist. :/RelentlessRolento said:
Also checked out cheapassgamer. Never heard of the site till now. Seems like they show you the bests deals on the web. Thanks!
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I took it as ebay has been good to him as a seller to afford new games. Maybe I'm wrong.Sayah said:I also use Ebay and have had a pretty good experience. I don't buy just released games from there, though. The only reason I want to pre-order Skyward Sword and Hybrid is due to the special editions. The weak man inside me can't resist. :/
Also checked out cheapassgamer. Never heard of the site till now. Seems like they show you the bests deals on the web. Thanks!
RelentlessRolento
Member
Happy B AAK!
Sayah, be sure you look in the "Deals" section of the forums on Cheap Ass, most of the good stuff is burried in there.
Sayah, be sure you look in the "Deals" section of the forums on Cheap Ass, most of the good stuff is burried in there.
sixteen-bit
Member
Happy birthday, AAK. I hope it's been great!
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
Looks amazing. Happy Birthday, btw. I realize I didn't say it yesterday though I intended to in my post.AAK said:Thanks again for the wishes guys! I had a RODEO good time
Played T6 yesterday (I always sign out because I prefer the character name, not mine, when playing offline modes that aren't arcade simulations - which is the only place customized ai fighters and names should be allowed). Anyway, I felt it looked better than I remember. Could be my new playing position, but it looked great and less lifeless.