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Tekken Tag Tournament 2 |OT| Awaiting the "Final Battle"
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IHaveCandy
Banned
Tekken 3 had juggles that did the same kind of damage as TTT2. Tekken 3 in general was a game of very little life. Rounds were very quick and a single juggle could take out half your life. TTT2 isn't any worse with juggle damage. They're just longer and require more hits to do the same damage. The answer is simply don't get launched.
toastyToast
Member
1 2 3 chains did like 40% damage in that game
Maybe if you got further into the game you'd realize that for almost every time you eat big damage, it was probably your fault
It's tempting to press buttons, but initially be conservative and learn to block and punish
Emperor Bohe
Member
I want to use old school tekken renders as panels in TTT2 for shits and giggles. imagine having these for Marshall and Paul haha
I don't care if it isn't in HD! hahaha. but on the real, they need to bring this costume back as DLC... most of the Tekken 4 costumes were good
also, doesn't anyone know when the second round of Tekken Tunes are coming?
I don't care if it isn't in HD! hahaha. but on the real, they need to bring this costume back as DLC... most of the Tekken 4 costumes were good
also, doesn't anyone know when the second round of Tekken Tunes are coming?
ironbearxl
Neo Member
ironbearxl
Neo Member
What juggle in Tekken 3 does as much damage as a TTT 2 juggle? Tekken 3 did not solely rely on juggles to win a match.
ironbearxl
Neo Member
These are mechanics I understand already, you are not really making a point here.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Have you seen Tekken 3 combos? I can do 75% juggles EASILY in that game.
Holy shit, T3 was some bullshit. I LOVED IT.
ironbearxl
Neo Member
So apparently the TTT2 juggle system is an easter egg in Tekken 3, you just have to did deep into the game to find it.
ironbearxl
Neo Member
Yeah, but anyone can do it in TTT2.
EDIT. I'm going to try my best to not hate TTT2 since it's still new to me. And it is a beautiful looking game packed with features, so much props to Namco.
Flying Wonkey
Member
Here I'll give you an easy one off the top of my head.
Pick jin and do ewgf, bf+2,1,d+2 ff+2 = 72 dmg (half the opponent life in T3)
Now contrast that to the things you have to do in TTT2:
(Devil Jin since thats where T3 Jin has gone to) ewgf, ewgf, ff+3,1~ff 2, d/f+1+2 B! ff+3,1~ff DEWGF = 90 dmg (half life in TTT2)
Good luck hitting that consistently. They just made you work for the damage in TTT2 now.
Don't see how you loved Tekken 3 If you hates juggles, that game was freaking disgusting in terms of the damage you can easily do with them.
October 23rd.
http://www.tekken-official.jp/tag2/dlc/
I'd buy some of T6 tunes. Fallen colony, Anger of the earth, Noh Theatre were amazing. I can't remember any music in old Tekkens, I played them in the arcades (T1-2) and you can't hear shit in an arcade.
toastyToast
Member
It's quite possible to dominate someone without ever launching them on just punishes and catching whiffs
The game isn't just about juggles
DR2K
Banned
TTT2 doesn't rely on juggles either. It seems like it when you compare it to other fighting games, but in reality there's a lot on the ground you need to know. It would be nice if throws weren't useless for the most part or if it were a little easier to punish an overly defensive play.
T3 Jin is Devil Jin in TTT2?
Most of his moves have transferred over to him, yes.
Sp3eD
0G M3mbeR
DEATH;43330292 said:
I'm speaking specifically about ground bounds followed by wall splats later in the same combo. Getting bounded is punishment enough. Adding wall splat combo on top of that is pretty ridiculous and has been something that I have loathed since T6. So again, what I propose is having a wall roll (similar to soul caliber 2) that you can tech off in that situation. It will never happen, but it seems like a pretty logical balance tweak to me.
Flying Wonkey
Member
No official word but Zavvi once listed on their TTT2 pages that the pre-order DLC will be made publicly available for everyone 3 months after TTT2 release. So it should be out in December.
It don't think it's as bad as it was in T6 because of the amount of life you have work with now, but the one thing I would tweak is that you slide down to the ground faster after you hit the wall. This would make it harder to do ridiculous wall carry and getting a bound at the wall since you have less time to hit them.
IHaveCandy
Banned
You could do the same amount of damage in a Tekken 3 juggle with 4 hits. TTT2 doesn't solely rely on juggles. Clearly you do not know how to play the game. Stop attributing your flaws to the game. If you want, I can beat you without using a single launcher juggle.
IHaveCandy
Banned
T4 was the only game where it was a costume. I believe his hair being down was supposed to represent him losing his passion for fighting. I think the 5 and 6 had them as customization.
T3 Jin was pretty much Kazyua with a few tweaks; Kazuya wasn't a playable character in T3. Jin didn't get his own distinct move set until T4. DJ in T5 is mostly similar to T3 Jin in that he shares moves with Kazuya, but also some of Jun's and whatever crazy flying/laser eye crap they've added to him in each game since T5.
Playing a character with fast safe pokes and good mixup will easily win you a match. I play Wang, who is all but bottom tier, and I manage to do well enough against most top tier characters with just pokes / punishers.
Also: Movement
Lol We all got wiped by Sayah...
No... The game consists of pressure, punishes, setups and mindgames... If you don't want to rely on juggles, there's Jin... Good pokes, wavedash, parry, all those good ground stuff...
BTW Just like Wonks said, T3/TTT1 is more ridiculous in juggles, and pretty easy too to pull off... T3 Jin can juggle of hellsweeps? That's too good...
T4 tried it with wall tech... It can turn the tides to the juggled's favor. The problem is not everybody have the tools to counter it, so basically when you get a splat, might as well back out... I would like it if everybody have a good wall tech trap that will reset the combo but people would still complain that they got resplatted and juggles again...
Yep... I'm such a scrub... Years of school and work and not having competition made me soft... Sucks that not everyone around me plays fighting games. I need to go back to my basics...
*Picks Jin and Steve*
LowParry
Member
I'd vote in Miharu and item throw with her bag all night long. The hate mail I get from that..........haha!
http://www.twitch.tv/kadeybaybe/b/335839860
Skip to 42:00 to watch me beat Sayah once after losing 20 times before.
Skip to 42:00 to watch me beat Sayah once after losing 20 times before.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Imo, juggles and launchers are definitely a HUGE part of this game. I know some pretty lengthy combos, but I have friends who have combos and tag combos that seem like they literally last for minutes and end up taking away around 60-80% of my life bar everytime. I am still trying to learn some more effective tag juggles myself and admittedly, it can really be challenging. The game is also about movement, pressure, punishers, spacing, defense and being able to read your opponents moves to prevent the launchers which is very difficult since there are so many characters to know. Knowing how to fight against so many fighting styles is what I need to work on I think. Hang in there. The game intimidates me sometimes also, but keep at it and take it one step at a time.
This cracked me up. What would you like to rely on to pull off wins against more skilled opponents in a well designed fighting game?
Blocking launches and lows and poking can also win a match. As well as other strategies.
lololololol
Stream title
And I'll try not to hog the lobby next time. It must get boring with just one person.
MarkMan
loves Arcade Sticks
Yeah, but not EASILY. That's the difference. Trust me, there is more bullshit in TEKKEN 3 and less balance in that game. TTT2 is sound, just gotta get with the times.
Nah it's ok... I'm out of it that day anyways...
No bro, keep doing what you're doing... We need someone to scream "Level Up Your Game" to us...
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New ATP Podcast with E.P., Tombrady and JOP, slamming DOA and MK... talking about "hating" each other (in a competitive way), and other funny stuff... good listen...
DOA crowd, please listen first before raging... Those guys are reasonable, and they have the right to say what they said as they are DOA players themselves...
IHaveCandy
Banned
Am I the only one that has had ~50% wins against Sayah?
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Hey Sayah, my Williams sisters are not done with your William sisters yet btw lol. 
I need to try to extend my diminutive tag combos with Anna and Nina. Still having trouble with the timing I suppose. I got some tag combos, but yours are epic and MUCH more damaging. Any advice for extending combos?
I need to try to extend my diminutive tag combos with Anna and Nina. Still having trouble with the timing I suppose. I got some tag combos, but yours are epic and MUCH more damaging. Any advice for extending combos?DEATH™;43361102 said:
If you say so.
Hey Sayah, my Williams sisters are not done with your William sisters yet btw lol.
Sure, we can do online practice or I can list combos here. Whichever way works for you.
toastyToast
Member
Went through the whole cast and think I'll just go back to Lee which I mained in 4 and 5. Man, I can't string mist steps together like I used to. My hands turn into noodles after the first one or two.
Lee has so much swag though. Is there a hint to coordinating yourself or is it just a matter of practising?
Lee has so much swag though. Is there a hint to coordinating yourself or is it just a matter of practising?
Are you trying to do miststep while in a combo? Just press 1,2 forward, 1,2 forward when the opponent is in the air. I remember thinking it was hard in T6 and then when I actually learned how to do it, it was cake.
Flying Wonkey
Member
You trying those b+2~f links with Lee? Yeah you might want to stop doing that now since the Unlimited update made them SOO much harder to do now.
A few Lee players I talked to mentioned they stopped doing it and just go with b+2~f 2, b+2~f 2 etc.
Yeeeeah.....I don't know anything about Lee. lol
toastyToast
Member
I've only been at it a few hours. Starting to get better, but I think my muscle memory has alzheimer's
Yeah, the window for it seems tiny. b+2 doesn't seem cause any float whatsoever compared to other moves early into a juggle. Thought it might have just been my sucking
The carry on 5 of those was epic ;_;
Soon I'll have my revenge, Wonkey
Tekken 4 costumes are the best.