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Tekken Tag Tournament 2 |OT| Awaiting the "Final Battle"
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
This whole post is hilarious.
I can do it in practice but then during actual matches, I don't know what happens.
Damn, this post reminds me of the T6 days when you were grinding with Anna preparing for TTT2... damn those were bad days
And I never knew you liked Paul that much! You and your backsway characters....Julia is a walking 50/50... she forces everyone to defend. I agree, she's IMO the best female character in the game considering Nina's execution barrier.
Damn, I really want to make a Bryan team now.... It'll be a challenge for sure though.
I love this man.
I will hopefully have internet by the 19th.... hopefully. By then I'll let you scout me for my eventual showdown with Toronto in October >D
Seriously, my internet situation is really screwing with me... I haven't played a legitimate match in almost 3 weeks and my throwbreaking is so crap now! ugh!
AnkiRendan
Member
Ah, that's not too far away! I look forward to it. I've also been meaning to ask you out of curiosity, why do you prefer Julia over Michelle?
I'm starting to get that itch to use one of the Changs again. Especially since my girlfriend recently cosplayed as T6 Julia.
I've also been meaning to ask you out of curiosity, why do you prefer Julia over Michelle?I'm starting to get that itch to use one of the Changs again. Especially since my girlfriend recently cosplayed as T6 Julia.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Ah, that's not too far away! I look forward to it.
I'm starting to get that itch to use one of the Changs again. Especially since my girlfriend recently cosplayed as T6 Julia.
Oh do show!
AnkiRendan
Member
Ah yes, sure! This is the only full body picture I could find for now since she took most of the pictures. It's me, her and....some "Spiderman" dude who just wouldn't stop photobombing us. -_-
I chose Julia just because she's new Namco put some effort updating her animations and giving her new moves so making use of all those new things along with her old style just made her so much fun.
But real talk, the wrestling moves she got are a huge advantage over Michelle:
-Her d/f+3+4 Hurracanrana is one of the best post Tag Assault wall combo enders in the game.
-Her Sweet Chin Music that transitions into backturned allows her a very damaging Tag Assault filler at the wall where she can return a b,f+1+2,4,1+2.
-Her Tag cancel is way better than Michelle's. Her f+3~3 can go under quite a few mids (but you have to know the move is -12). Michelle's f+3 can't do that. And if she wants to just play it safe she can straight away transition into the bridge stance which doesn't have the crush properties f+3~3 has but in case they are defending you don't risk a 12 fr punish. Michelle's best bet for a tag cancel I guess is qcf+2 which Julia has as well.
-Julia's f+3 has some pretty amazing follow ups, the 1 and 2 follow ups are both safe, and the 1 follow up is actually +1 on block so against people who don't know the matchup it's such an easy tool to destroy them with. Michelle can't compete with those.
- Another thing is that Julia's 13 fr punisher b+2,1+2 does more damage and is completely safe in case you screw up while Michelle's b+2,3 is -12 or -13 and does less damage.
I believe Michelle gets better okizeme on throws compared to Julia just because of the superior mad axes. But that's not enough for me to overlook Julia's advantages.
And there is also the fact she is the most beautiful female character in gaming
Namco put some effort updating her animations and giving her new moves so making use of all those new things along with her old style just made her so much fun. But real talk, the wrestling moves she got are a huge advantage over Michelle:
-Her d/f+3+4 Hurracanrana is one of the best post Tag Assault wall combo enders in the game.
-Her Sweet Chin Music that transitions into backturned allows her a very damaging Tag Assault filler at the wall where she can return a b,f+1+2,4,1+2.
-Her Tag cancel is way better than Michelle's. Her f+3~3 can go under quite a few mids (but you have to know the move is -12). Michelle's f+3 can't do that. And if she wants to just play it safe she can straight away transition into the bridge stance which doesn't have the crush properties f+3~3 has but in case they are defending you don't risk a 12 fr punish. Michelle's best bet for a tag cancel I guess is qcf+2 which Julia has as well.
-Julia's f+3 has some pretty amazing follow ups, the 1 and 2 follow ups are both safe, and the 1 follow up is actually +1 on block so against people who don't know the matchup it's such an easy tool to destroy them with. Michelle can't compete with those.
- Another thing is that Julia's 13 fr punisher b+2,1+2 does more damage and is completely safe in case you screw up while Michelle's b+2,3 is -12 or -13 and does less damage.
I believe Michelle gets better okizeme on throws compared to Julia just because of the superior mad axes. But that's not enough for me to overlook Julia's advantages.
And there is also the fact she is the most beautiful female character in gaming
GrayFoxPL
Member
Ah yes, sure! This is the only full body picture I could find for now since she took most of the pictures. It's me, her and....some "Spiderman" dude who just wouldn't stop photobombing us. -_-
Ha! Very cool!
AnkiRendan
Member
I chose Julia just because she's new
But real talk, the wrestling moves she got are a huge advantage over Michelle:
-Her d/f+3+4 Hurracanrana is one of the best post Tag Assault wall combo enders in the game.
-Her Sweet Chin Music that transitions into backturned allows her a very damaging Tag Assault filler at the wall where she can return a b,f+1+2,4,1+2.
-Her Tag cancel is way better than Michelle's. Her f+3~3 can go under quite a few mids (but you have to know the move is -12). Michelle's f+3 can't do that. And if she wants to just play it safe she can straight away transition into the bridge stance which doesn't have the crush properties f+3~3 has but in case they are defending you don't risk a 12 fr punish. Michelle's best bet for a tag cancel I guess is qcf+2 which Julia has as well.
-Julia's f+3 has some pretty amazing follow ups, the 1 and 2 follow ups are both safe, and the 1 follow up is actually +1 on block so against people who don't know the matchup it's such an easy tool to destroy them with. Michelle can't compete with those.
- Another thing is that Julia's 13 fr punisher b+2,1+2 does more damage and is completely safe in case you screw up while Michelle's b+2,3 is -12 or -13 and does less damage.
I believe Michelle gets better okizeme on throws compared to Julia just because of the superior mad axes. But that's not enough for me to overlook Julia's advantages.
And there is also the fact she is the most beautiful female character in gaming
Hm! You make her sound very intriguing. I'm going to check her out tomorrow! Seems easier to get information on her than Michelle anyway since I have the TTT2 book. It'll also be helpful when I go to Japan on my vacation. I want to get bodied. =D
Oh yeah, and does Julia have her old costume in this game? I know you can take the mask off, but...
I can play.
She has the t6 cowgirl customization as her unlockable outfit. None of her defaults from the previous Tekken games are in TTT2. Sigh
^
Nice cosplay.
Jaycee players make me salty.
I can agree that she's the best female character in the game. Her big updates from T6 to TTT2 really made her a truly versatile character. I wouldn't call her an easy character to learn but yeah, Nina does require more time investment. I used Julia sometimes in T6 but haven't really explored her much in TTT2. The big area Jaycee's lacking in is Tag Assault fillers. Now that's somewhere where the Williams truly excel. I would place both Williams in top 5 for TA fillers. In fact, I would probably rank the top 5 TA filler characters as:
1. Anna
2. Nina
3. Alisa
4. Miguel
5. Jinpachi
Edit: I've realized I've left out Steve and Heihachi. They should probably be somewhere in the top.
Yeah, I remember picking Anna up during T6 just so I could have someone to team up with NIna. Anna turned out to be a pretty great character choice. A lot of 50-50's/great mixups, great pressure, and, of course, CAT stance. Anna could really use some good punishers and better tracking moves, though.
And yeah, Paul is a lot of fun to play with. Backsway is definitely an advantage.
Nice cosplay.
Jaycee players make me salty.
I can agree that she's the best female character in the game. Her big updates from T6 to TTT2 really made her a truly versatile character. I wouldn't call her an easy character to learn but yeah, Nina does require more time investment. I used Julia sometimes in T6 but haven't really explored her much in TTT2. The big area Jaycee's lacking in is Tag Assault fillers. Now that's somewhere where the Williams truly excel. I would place both Williams in top 5 for TA fillers. In fact, I would probably rank the top 5 TA filler characters as:
1. Anna
2. Nina
3. Alisa
4. Miguel
5. Jinpachi
Edit: I've realized I've left out Steve and Heihachi. They should probably be somewhere in the top.
Damn, this post reminds me of the T6 days when you were grinding with Anna preparing for TTT2... damn those were bad days
Yeah, I remember picking Anna up during T6 just so I could have someone to team up with NIna. Anna turned out to be a pretty great character choice. A lot of 50-50's/great mixups, great pressure, and, of course, CAT stance. Anna could really use some good punishers and better tracking moves, though.
And yeah, Paul is a lot of fun to play with. Backsway is definitely an advantage.
nailbombxx
Member
Original: Kazuya/Devil Jin
Main: Heihachi/Kazuya
Secondary: Jin/Jinpachi
I messed around with DJ until I learned Heihachi, then he became my favorite character next to Kaz. I love all of the Mishimas, though.
I plan on learning how to play the Kings decently as well.
Nope... his rank was always leagues above mine, I did however run into his Bruce/Asuka team once. He beat me 3-2.
MrCookiepants
Member
What is up with JayCee's 1,1,1 string and why do so many people get hit by df2,1 after it? I've been abusing it today and I'm not even sure why it works, lol.
It's a natural combo on counter hit and for a 10 frame move it's relatively common to see happen. The last hit causes a butt flop soon where you are at like +18 I think. D/f+2 and whatever follow-up is guaranteed after that. The opponent can escape that stun by tech rolling however. It's very easy to escape and you won't see it at high levels
MrCookiepants
Member
It's a natural combo on counter hit and for a 10 frame move it's relatively common to see happen. The last hit causes a butt flop soon where you are at like +18 I think. D/f+2 and whatever follow-up is guaranteed after that. The opponent can escape that stun by tech rolling however. It's very easy to escape and you won't see it at high levels
Ah, so that's why it doesn't count as a real combo. Yeah, I was mashing 1 at the beginning of the round and getting 80% health off this one guy :lol He got a bit salty. I'll be sure to tell him how to beat it next time.
GrayFoxPL
Member
It's a natural combo on counter hit and for a 10 frame move it's relatively common to see happen. The last hit causes a butt flop soon where you are at like +18 I think. D/f+2 and whatever follow-up is guaranteed after that. The opponent can escape that stun by tech rolling however. It's very easy to escape and you won't see it at high levels
yeah I often like when it hit because after tech roll JC is fucked if they try df+2.
Callo Merlose
Banned
Encounter a capo. Awesome, I'll brb when finally fucking land from this combo. Awesome, I can't down these tylenols fast enough. I also hope Beiber hair Lars is outta the next Tekken game. Doesn't belong in a goddamned iron fist game. Motherfuck him and anyone's bloodline that plays with him.
Hey guys. Been awhile but i found something sad.
So my parents subscribed to this Chinese magazine and leave it on the floor near the bathroom. I cant read Chinese but I picked up the magazine and saw it was a late March issue.
I flipped and saw an article with pictures of people's text messages. The text messages are group messages in the Hong Kong tekken community. You can tell with the "HK tekken" and thumbnail being the Tag 2 boxart. A guy was writing in english that he killed his parents. Then I flipped the page and see head pics of an old man and lady and a knife. Theres also a pic of a guy wearing a bag over his face being escorted by what looks like the police.
However since I cant read the article, I dont know if my intuition is correct or this is just some usual Chinese "Games are making our kids murder!" article. Im googling around and cant find anything. Nevertheless, quite depressing
So my parents subscribed to this Chinese magazine and leave it on the floor near the bathroom. I cant read Chinese but I picked up the magazine and saw it was a late March issue.
I flipped and saw an article with pictures of people's text messages. The text messages are group messages in the Hong Kong tekken community. You can tell with the "HK tekken" and thumbnail being the Tag 2 boxart. A guy was writing in english that he killed his parents. Then I flipped the page and see head pics of an old man and lady and a knife. Theres also a pic of a guy wearing a bag over his face being escorted by what looks like the police.
However since I cant read the article, I dont know if my intuition is correct or this is just some usual Chinese "Games are making our kids murder!" article. Im googling around and cant find anything. Nevertheless, quite depressing
GrayFoxPL
Member
Hey guys. Been awhile but i found something sad.
So my parents subscribed to this Chinese magazine and leave it on the floor near the bathroom. I cant read Chinese but I picked up the magazine and saw it was a late March issue.
I flipped and saw an article with pictures of people's text messages. The text messages are group messages in the Hong Kong tekken community. You can tell with the "HK tekken" and thumbnail being the Tag 2 boxart. A guy was writing in english that he killed his parents. Then I flipped the page and see head pics of an old man and lady and a knife. Theres also a pic of a guy wearing a bag over his face being escorted by what looks like the police.
However since I cant read the article, I dont know if my intuition is correct or this is just some usual Chinese "Games are making our kids murder!" article. Im googling around and cant find anything. Nevertheless, quite depressing
But Tekken isn't brutal...
That's a sad story, First time I've ever heard of it Tekken related Good to see you back CSX. Hope to see you online again
That's actually from the new Tekken Pachinko machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfeTU8gmAR4
Good to see you back CSX. Hope to see you online again That's actually from the new Tekken Pachinko machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfeTU8gmAR4
The heck is that? lol
GrayFoxPL
Member
You can play real pachinko machines digitally recreated in Yakuza 4. First time I learned what it's all about in there.
There's cool VF pachinko machine in Y4. Those things look like vertical standing pinball boards with rows, slots, spinning things and so on. From the top iron balls start falling and depending where they fall the on screen game reacts. Like in pinball. You have very limited control where the balls go, like you can control the strength of shooting out the balls, other button or two may control some game actions and that's it. When you run out of balls (and they flow in thousands) you just put credit for more.
The on screen games are usually series of (mostly realtime) cutscenes depending how you go with the balls. You can actually "finish" the games then you get some cool ending song and big ball bonus and it starts again.
The production values on these things are pretty big with real graphic chips inside. Sound and tons of music are especially impressive.
There's cool VF pachinko machine in Y4. Those things look like vertical standing pinball boards with rows, slots, spinning things and so on. From the top iron balls start falling and depending where they fall the on screen game reacts. Like in pinball. You have very limited control where the balls go, like you can control the strength of shooting out the balls, other button or two may control some game actions and that's it. When you run out of balls (and they flow in thousands) you just put credit for more.
The on screen games are usually series of (mostly realtime) cutscenes depending how you go with the balls. You can actually "finish" the games then you get some cool ending song and big ball bonus and it starts again.
The production values on these things are pretty big with real graphic chips inside. Sound and tons of music are especially impressive.
nailbombxx
Member
Of course, Heihachi will become immortal if he is a robot.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Original: Nina/Anna
Current: Anna/Nina
*lol*
I've been experiencing with Miguel, Jin, Lili, Jaycee, King, Paul and Jun/Unknown in TTT2, but since literally 90% of TTT2 players are so high level online, I typically have to stick with the Williams to be more competitive, especially in ranked. I never agreed with the TTT2 is too hard to play or learn since there are so many great players online. It's really peculiar to me. I mean I have fiends who train with a character for literally 1 to 2 hours and they are actually defeating very solid players online.
I got a friend online who wants me to teach her how to play the WIlliams and we've been sparring online for a few weeks now. I've seen admirable improvements from her in such a short period of time, especially considering they can be difficult to learn. We are having fun and I am still learning new techniques. I told her I will try my best to teach her properly, but I am definitely not the authority when it comes to the Williams sisters lol.
I just got Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate on PS3, awesome game, I can kind of grasp the system but overall I'm still kind of button mashy when I come to that game. I know how to block/reverse strings and kind of punish stuff. Of course, we were playing tag mode, after a few hours I go to Tag 2 because my tag hunger needed to be fulfilled.
I got a buddy of mine on Tekken around a few months after TTT2 first came out. He would come over while I watched my replays. After watching some of my replays he decided to start playing. Nothing serious, he got beat left and right but he didn't care and still had fun. A few months later after I started to grasp the fundamentals of Tekken, he started playing with Asuka. I tried to explain to him how to do a combo, he could never do one.
He would say, "how do you do tag the other guy in while the first guy is in?", it was hard as hell to explain. I do it simply and it's a second thought, it's hard to actually map out what I'm doing. I tried to explain it to him and he still couldn't get it down. I explained to him what a bound was, and that, you cannot bound after low parries. He would do combos with Asuka, and then backroll catch and do another combo, for this reason he thought you could bound twice in one combo. I had to display that if the opponent does not backroll, that combo wouldn't work. His mind was blown.
He started to pick up Jun too because of their similarities. Whenever he would come over while I'm playing, he would play. He would consistently drop combos and whiff attacks. He knew how to do what he wanted to do, it was just hard for him to execute what he knew in an actual battle. I would go into practice mode with him and choose the same characters, and he says "you learned like 4 Asuka combos in 10 minutes, WTF", he was impressed with my ability to just go into practice mode and create like 3 60 DMG combos just by looking through the command list. Obviously this isn't really anything special since anyone who knows Tekken well enough can do this. I taught him to never backroll on get up unless the opponent is far away enough that, he or she can't backroll catch him. I did this one basic Asuka combo, with the default Jun tag filler and a running "Asuka kick ender", I don't know what the move is. He says, "damn", I think I can do that.
He tries this combo about 40 times, he still couldn't really grasp how to do tag assaults. Then he landed the running Asuka kick ender, and got extremely excited, he kept doing it over and over again. We played some matches and he landed that combo every single time. I remember one time I was just fucking around doing slideys with Law, then he beat me with that combo and I told him that was good shit. At this point, he went out and bought himself a copy of the game. He would text me through the week saying, "dude I just learned this new Asuka/Jun combo". We would have conversations about online matches. He started playing online ranked by himself and he would tell me stories about them. He would always tell me that, "your highest character is a Marauder? I thought you would be higher than that." So fast-forward a little later, he knows how to consistently do tag combos with Asuka/Jun, he's starting to punish launch punishable moves, he's not backrolling, a lot of essential things.
I pop in Tekken 6 just for shits and giggles. He picks Asuka, and I was surprised when his knowledge of Tag 2 translated back to Tekken 6, it was amazing. When I turned on Tekken 6, he said, "this game looks like it was made 15 years go compared to Tag 2." I lol'd. To the normal guy this story is insignificant, but to good Tekken players like the ones in this thread, I thought it would be interesting. I'm a huge fighting game guy, people hate playing fighting games with me because I always win. Then TTT2 came out, and really used to think that I could just spam launchers and win that way. Thanks to the many fights with the people in this thread, and through watching videos on YouTube, my experience in Tekken has increased. Within one year I feel like I went through a Tekken Hyberbolic Time Chamber.
Back in the Tekken 6 days, back when I first came into the GAF scene, with Sayah, AAK, Degen, Dropkick, and SDBurton, I knew how to play Tekken and how to do combos, but I had no knowledge of punishing. When I look back, I can't believe that I used to play Tekken that way, I would always wonder why I was losing. There was a point where I would actually dislike playing against AAK and Sayah because I thought they were impossible to beat. The problem wasn't them, the problem was me. I don't remember when exactly I learned what "punishing was", but I leveled up extremely. Then I learned that, no matter how good the player, they can be punished. So, once I learned this, and starting winning against the people I just listed, I got a lot more confident. Not to mention my casual regulars, Famicom, Ricko Sauve, dropkick, Degen, Cookiepants, Downplay, SDBurton, CSX, MannyBiggz, ElzaWalker.
ElzaWalker, Ricko, Manny, Dropkick, Sayah, AAK used to piss me the fuck off, I might as well call them
I couldn't get away with shit while playing with these people, "Oh, you want to do launch punishable moves? BOOM, punish everytime bitch." ELZAWALKER, YOU PUNISH EVERYTHING, WTF. ElzaWalker leveled up my game, Manny leveled up my game, Ricko leveled up my game, AAK birthed me, he taught me almost everything I know, I owe a lot to him, good dude. Sayah taught me about patience, and that no matter how good the opponent, patience and poking can still work. Yoooo, Famicom, whenever I play you it seems like you got twice as better as the last time, you stop falling for me old mixups so I have to create new ones. Overall though, thanks Tekken GAF.
I got a buddy of mine on Tekken around a few months after TTT2 first came out. He would come over while I watched my replays. After watching some of my replays he decided to start playing. Nothing serious, he got beat left and right but he didn't care and still had fun. A few months later after I started to grasp the fundamentals of Tekken, he started playing with Asuka. I tried to explain to him how to do a combo, he could never do one.
He would say, "how do you do tag the other guy in while the first guy is in?", it was hard as hell to explain. I do it simply and it's a second thought, it's hard to actually map out what I'm doing. I tried to explain it to him and he still couldn't get it down. I explained to him what a bound was, and that, you cannot bound after low parries. He would do combos with Asuka, and then backroll catch and do another combo, for this reason he thought you could bound twice in one combo. I had to display that if the opponent does not backroll, that combo wouldn't work. His mind was blown.
He started to pick up Jun too because of their similarities. Whenever he would come over while I'm playing, he would play. He would consistently drop combos and whiff attacks. He knew how to do what he wanted to do, it was just hard for him to execute what he knew in an actual battle. I would go into practice mode with him and choose the same characters, and he says "you learned like 4 Asuka combos in 10 minutes, WTF", he was impressed with my ability to just go into practice mode and create like 3 60 DMG combos just by looking through the command list. Obviously this isn't really anything special since anyone who knows Tekken well enough can do this. I taught him to never backroll on get up unless the opponent is far away enough that, he or she can't backroll catch him. I did this one basic Asuka combo, with the default Jun tag filler and a running "Asuka kick ender", I don't know what the move is. He says, "damn", I think I can do that.
He tries this combo about 40 times, he still couldn't really grasp how to do tag assaults. Then he landed the running Asuka kick ender, and got extremely excited, he kept doing it over and over again. We played some matches and he landed that combo every single time. I remember one time I was just fucking around doing slideys with Law, then he beat me with that combo and I told him that was good shit. At this point, he went out and bought himself a copy of the game. He would text me through the week saying, "dude I just learned this new Asuka/Jun combo". We would have conversations about online matches. He started playing online ranked by himself and he would tell me stories about them. He would always tell me that, "your highest character is a Marauder? I thought you would be higher than that." So fast-forward a little later, he knows how to consistently do tag combos with Asuka/Jun, he's starting to punish launch punishable moves, he's not backrolling, a lot of essential things.
I pop in Tekken 6 just for shits and giggles. He picks Asuka, and I was surprised when his knowledge of Tag 2 translated back to Tekken 6, it was amazing. When I turned on Tekken 6, he said, "this game looks like it was made 15 years go compared to Tag 2." I lol'd. To the normal guy this story is insignificant, but to good Tekken players like the ones in this thread, I thought it would be interesting. I'm a huge fighting game guy, people hate playing fighting games with me because I always win. Then TTT2 came out, and really used to think that I could just spam launchers and win that way. Thanks to the many fights with the people in this thread, and through watching videos on YouTube, my experience in Tekken has increased. Within one year I feel like I went through a Tekken Hyberbolic Time Chamber.
Back in the Tekken 6 days, back when I first came into the GAF scene, with Sayah, AAK, Degen, Dropkick, and SDBurton, I knew how to play Tekken and how to do combos, but I had no knowledge of punishing. When I look back, I can't believe that I used to play Tekken that way, I would always wonder why I was losing. There was a point where I would actually dislike playing against AAK and Sayah because I thought they were impossible to beat. The problem wasn't them, the problem was me. I don't remember when exactly I learned what "punishing was", but I leveled up extremely. Then I learned that, no matter how good the player, they can be punished. So, once I learned this, and starting winning against the people I just listed, I got a lot more confident. Not to mention my casual regulars, Famicom, Ricko Sauve, dropkick, Degen, Cookiepants, Downplay, SDBurton, CSX, MannyBiggz, ElzaWalker.
ElzaWalker, Ricko, Manny, Dropkick, Sayah, AAK used to piss me the fuck off, I might as well call them
I couldn't get away with shit while playing with these people, "Oh, you want to do launch punishable moves? BOOM, punish everytime bitch." ELZAWALKER, YOU PUNISH EVERYTHING, WTF. ElzaWalker leveled up my game, Manny leveled up my game, Ricko leveled up my game, AAK birthed me, he taught me almost everything I know, I owe a lot to him, good dude. Sayah taught me about patience, and that no matter how good the opponent, patience and poking can still work. Yoooo, Famicom, whenever I play you it seems like you got twice as better as the last time, you stop falling for me old mixups so I have to create new ones. Overall though, thanks Tekken GAF.
FormallyFamicom
Member
I'm a Fighter.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I just got Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate on PS3, awesome game, I can kind of grasp the system but overall I'm still kind of button mashy when I come to that game. I know how to block/reverse strings and kind of punish stuff. Of course, we were playing tag mode, after a few hours I go to Tag 2 because my tag hunger needed to be fulfilled.
I got a buddy of mine on Tekken around a few months after TTT2 first came out. He would come over while I watched my replays. After watching some of my replays he decided to start playing. Nothing serious, he got beat left and right but he didn't care and still had fun. A few months later after I started to grasp the fundamentals of Tekken, he started playing with Asuka. I tried to explain to him how to do a combo, he could never do one.
He would say, "how do you do tag the other guy in while the first guy is in?", it was hard as hell to explain. I do it simply and it's a second thought, it's hard to actually map out what I'm doing. I tried to explain it to him and he still couldn't get it down. I explained to him what a bound was, and that, you cannot bound after low parries. He would do combos with Asuka, and then backroll catch and do another combo, for this reason he thought you could bound twice in one combo. I had to display that if the opponent does not backroll, that combo wouldn't work. His mind was blown.
He started to pick up Jun too because of their similarities. Whenever he would come over while I'm playing, he would play. He would consistently drop combos and whiff attacks. He knew how to do what he wanted to do, it was just hard for him to execute what he knew in an actual battle. I would go into practice mode with him and choose the same characters, and he says "you learned like 4 Asuka combos in 10 minutes, WTF", he was impressed with my ability to just go into practice mode and create like 3 60 DMG combos just by looking through the command list. Obviously this isn't really anything special since anyone who knows Tekken well enough can do this. I taught him to never backroll on get up unless the opponent is far away enough that, he or she can't backroll catch him. I did this one basic Asuka combo, with the default Jun tag filler and a running "Asuka kick ender", I don't know what the move is. He says, "damn", I think I can do that.
He tries this combo about 40 times, he still couldn't really grasp how to do tag assaults. Then he landed the running Asuka kick ender, and got extremely excited, he kept doing it over and over again. We played some matches and he landed that combo every single time. I remember one time I was just fucking around doing slideys with Law, then he beat me with that combo and I told him that was good shit. At this point, he went out and bought himself a copy of the game. He would text me through the week saying, "dude I just learned this new Asuka/Jun combo". We would have conversations about online matches. He started playing online ranked by himself and he would tell me stories about them. He would always tell me that, "your highest character is a Marauder? I thought you would be higher than that." So fast-forward a little later, he knows how to consistently do tag combos with Asuka/Jun, he's starting to punish launch punishable moves, he's not backrolling, a lot of essential things.
I pop in Tekken 6 just for shits and giggles. He picks Asuka, and I was surprised when his knowledge of Tag 2 translated back to Tekken 6, it was amazing. When I turned on Tekken 6, he said, "this game looks like it was made 15 years go compared to Tag 2." I lol'd. To the normal guy this story is insignificant, but to good Tekken players like the ones in this thread, I thought it would be interesting. I'm a huge fighting game guy, people hate playing fighting games with me because I always win. Then TTT2 came out, and really used to think that I could just spam launchers and win that way. Thanks to the many fights with the people in this thread, and through watching videos on YouTube, my experience in Tekken has increased. Within one year I feel like I went through a Tekken Hyberbolic Time Chamber.
Back in the Tekken 6 days, back when I first came into the GAF scene, with Sayah, AAK, Degen, Dropkick, and SDBurton, I knew how to play Tekken and how to do combos, but I had no knowledge of punishing. When I look back, I can't believe that I used to play Tekken that way, I would always wonder why I was losing. There was a point where I would actually dislike playing against AAK and Sayah because I thought they were impossible to beat. The problem wasn't them, the problem was me. I don't remember when exactly I learned what "punishing was", but I leveled up extremely. Then I learned that, no matter how good the player, they can be punished. So, once I learned this, and starting winning against the people I just listed, I got a lot more confident. Not to mention my casual regulars, Famicom, Ricko Sauve, dropkick, Degen, Cookiepants, Downplay, SDBurton, CSX, MannyBiggz, ElzaWalker.
ElzaWalker, Ricko, Manny, Dropkick, Sayah, AAK used to piss me the fuck off, I might as well call them
I couldn't get away with shit while playing with these people, "Oh, you want to do launch punishable moves? BOOM, punish everytime bitch." ELZAWALKER, YOU PUNISH EVERYTHING, WTF. ElzaWalker leveled up my game, Manny leveled up my game, Ricko leveled up my game, AAK birthed me, he taught me almost everything I know, I owe a lot to him, good dude. Sayah taught me about patience, and that no matter how good the opponent, patience and poking can still work. Yoooo, Famicom, whenever I play you it seems like you got twice as better as the last time, you stop falling for me old mixups so I have to create new ones. Overall though, thanks Tekken GAF.
Good post. I can relate. I tried to explain how to do tag combos and assaults with a few of my online friends and for me and it can be hard to explain. I can normally do it without much thought, but explaining it can be challenging. Yeah, Manny, AAK, Sayah, Elza, Ricko, etc will make a man/woman out of you and make you question your ability and skill level in TTT2. They will force you to step your game up. I don't play TTT2 near as much as I used to, but I still visit it sometimes and have fun with it after 1 year and even with the same characters.
I actually went back and played Tekken 6 recently and I am pretty satisfied with my progression. I was consistently defeating high rank players literally everytime with the Williams in rank matches and finally got pass 3rd dan lol. I guess I was somewhat happy with my Nina in Tekken 6 considering I never really took the game serious when I used to play it, but I immediately realized while playing Tekken Tag 2 that my Anna was questionable in Tekken 6. I barely even did the cat stance with her. I have no idea how I even won with her as much as I did back in the day.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I am REALLY enjoying Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate and I personally think it is more of an upgrade than Street Fighter AE. Awesome game IMO. The game is actually distracting me from TTT2 and Tekken Revolution. Then again, I have been playing Tekken and DOA since their debuts, so I might be a little biased. It has a few notable changes made to the fighting engine and a respectable amount of new content. I really need to work on my parrying though. You guys have nothing to lose by downloading the free version at least.
Ok, well, I bought the game today. I got it for the 360, I'll go through the tutorial this week, read and watch tons of guides and matches, and learn some combos in training on Saturday. If anyone wouldn't mind answering any outlying questions or playing with me and/or explaining things to me over XBL on Saturday that'd be really cool. I really want to get into this game since the local fighting scene seems to be the largest for it.
Darn, I should've waited before opening it so I could've returned it. No biggie, I'll just wait a little while and get it for PS3, I do have Tekken Revolution on that if that's similar though.
Wish we got to you sooner. Most of us play on PS3. :\
I'm gonna be testing live streaming. If someone wants to do a lobby or something, let's go. Find me online. Otherwise, I'm just practicing stuff with Yoshi/Alisa.
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This is an amazing post and very inspirational.
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I just got Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate on PS3, awesome game, I can kind of grasp the system but overall I'm still kind of button mashy when I come to that game. I know how to block/reverse strings and kind of punish stuff. Of course, we were playing tag mode, after a few hours I go to Tag 2 because my tag hunger needed to be fulfilled.
I got a buddy of mine on Tekken around a few months after TTT2 first came out. He would come over while I watched my replays. After watching some of my replays he decided to start playing. Nothing serious, he got beat left and right but he didn't care and still had fun. A few months later after I started to grasp the fundamentals of Tekken, he started playing with Asuka. I tried to explain to him how to do a combo, he could never do one.
He would say, "how do you do tag the other guy in while the first guy is in?", it was hard as hell to explain. I do it simply and it's a second thought, it's hard to actually map out what I'm doing. I tried to explain it to him and he still couldn't get it down. I explained to him what a bound was, and that, you cannot bound after low parries. He would do combos with Asuka, and then backroll catch and do another combo, for this reason he thought you could bound twice in one combo. I had to display that if the opponent does not backroll, that combo wouldn't work. His mind was blown.
He started to pick up Jun too because of their similarities. Whenever he would come over while I'm playing, he would play. He would consistently drop combos and whiff attacks. He knew how to do what he wanted to do, it was just hard for him to execute what he knew in an actual battle. I would go into practice mode with him and choose the same characters, and he says "you learned like 4 Asuka combos in 10 minutes, WTF", he was impressed with my ability to just go into practice mode and create like 3 60 DMG combos just by looking through the command list. Obviously this isn't really anything special since anyone who knows Tekken well enough can do this. I taught him to never backroll on get up unless the opponent is far away enough that, he or she can't backroll catch him. I did this one basic Asuka combo, with the default Jun tag filler and a running "Asuka kick ender", I don't know what the move is. He says, "damn", I think I can do that.
He tries this combo about 40 times, he still couldn't really grasp how to do tag assaults. Then he landed the running Asuka kick ender, and got extremely excited, he kept doing it over and over again. We played some matches and he landed that combo every single time. I remember one time I was just fucking around doing slideys with Law, then he beat me with that combo and I told him that was good shit. At this point, he went out and bought himself a copy of the game. He would text me through the week saying, "dude I just learned this new Asuka/Jun combo". We would have conversations about online matches. He started playing online ranked by himself and he would tell me stories about them. He would always tell me that, "your highest character is a Marauder? I thought you would be higher than that." So fast-forward a little later, he knows how to consistently do tag combos with Asuka/Jun, he's starting to punish launch punishable moves, he's not backrolling, a lot of essential things.
I pop in Tekken 6 just for shits and giggles. He picks Asuka, and I was surprised when his knowledge of Tag 2 translated back to Tekken 6, it was amazing. When I turned on Tekken 6, he said, "this game looks like it was made 15 years go compared to Tag 2." I lol'd. To the normal guy this story is insignificant, but to good Tekken players like the ones in this thread, I thought it would be interesting. I'm a huge fighting game guy, people hate playing fighting games with me because I always win. Then TTT2 came out, and really used to think that I could just spam launchers and win that way. Thanks to the many fights with the people in this thread, and through watching videos on YouTube, my experience in Tekken has increased. Within one year I feel like I went through a Tekken Hyberbolic Time Chamber.
Back in the Tekken 6 days, back when I first came into the GAF scene, with Sayah, AAK, Degen, Dropkick, and SDBurton, I knew how to play Tekken and how to do combos, but I had no knowledge of punishing. When I look back, I can't believe that I used to play Tekken that way, I would always wonder why I was losing. There was a point where I would actually dislike playing against AAK and Sayah because I thought they were impossible to beat. The problem wasn't them, the problem was me. I don't remember when exactly I learned what "punishing was", but I leveled up extremely. Then I learned that, no matter how good the player, they can be punished. So, once I learned this, and starting winning against the people I just listed, I got a lot more confident. Not to mention my casual regulars, Famicom, Ricko Sauve, dropkick, Degen, Cookiepants, Downplay, SDBurton, CSX, MannyBiggz, ElzaWalker.
ElzaWalker, Ricko, Manny, Dropkick, Sayah, AAK used to piss me the fuck off, I might as well call them
I couldn't get away with shit while playing with these people, "Oh, you want to do launch punishable moves? BOOM, punish everytime bitch." ELZAWALKER, YOU PUNISH EVERYTHING, WTF. ElzaWalker leveled up my game, Manny leveled up my game, Ricko leveled up my game, AAK birthed me, he taught me almost everything I know, I owe a lot to him, good dude. Sayah taught me about patience, and that no matter how good the opponent, patience and poking can still work. Yoooo, Famicom, whenever I play you it seems like you got twice as better as the last time, you stop falling for me old mixups so I have to create new ones. Overall though, thanks Tekken GAF.
This is an amazing post and very inspirational.
Bah. Most people are on PS3.
FormallyFamicom
Member
TFC had some of the best American TTT2 play I've seen from the game to date. Top 8 is worth a watch if you don't mind the slideshow.
The winner was Anakin over Naclam pretty convincingly.
MrCookiepants
Member
Good post boutdown. I can relate in that I've been playing Tekken for a long time and thought I was good until playing online opened my eyes. Only difference is this happened with TTT2 for me instead of T6.
Hopefully by the time T7 comes out I'll be one of those good players on GAF.
Hopefully by the time T7 comes out I'll be one of those good players on GAF.