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[GrayFoxPL]

We can play some matches if you want,
Some people on TZ are saying that Harada talked about 32 to 36 characters but take that with a huge grain of salt. I can see it happening though.

Ok let's do a list of 32 characters.

Theoretical Tekken 7 roster:

Kazuya with badass Devil Kazuya Transformation and special moveset.
Heihachi with expanded Raijin stance. Too stubborn to die.
Jin with manual Devil Jin transformation. Officially noted as dead after T6.
Hwoarang with "Baek Stance".
Xiaoyu with remade moveset as an experiment. Has some Wang's moves too.
Bryan looking more like a menacing cyborg.
Paul hopefully less dumb.
Lee with even more flashy moves taken from 90s Van Damme flicks.
Jack 7 with fatal program error. Totally crazy.
Nina looking for Anna who suddenly disappeared after T6.
Asuka with more advanced Kazama fighting style. Some Jun's moves too. Discovers she can heal people but opts to kick their asses instead.
Forest Law with everything a Law can do. Marchall says: "I'm too old for this shit."
Lei with stances reduced to few but with way better moves.
Lars who got his ass handed to him by Mishimas trains himself harder to become the ultimate top tier. (Secretly he wants Heihachi's hug.) In frustration he uses so much of Alisa until she becomes trash. Forgets.
Lili because popularity. She again uses her dance skills to pretend to fight for some nonsense. I don't know.
Steve starts drinking and ends up in the gutter. He fights everyone in the streets for cheap thrills and vodka. His boxing style gets more rough and brutal.
Leo realizes she's a girl. Looks more girly now .
Raven get's his budget cut due to all failed missions. He wears poor ninja racks now and trains himself in more deadly ancient ninjutsu. Has a meatbum stand in Tokio as a cover up. (It's not a cover up. He needs money. Bad.)
Dragunov speaks now. He's funny.
Yoshimitsu The Next. Looks more "normal". Again revamped moveset.
Julia Chang, she's not JC anymore, sorry guys.
King with less throws but better moves. Rawr!
Armor King still the cooler Jaguar. Goes out for a beer with King sometimes.
Marduk brakes faces again for no reason. Jealous about A.King hanging out now with his love. Tension ensues. Plots murder.
Christie because Capoeira mashing didn't die in the 90ties.
Miguel still wants to beat up Jin. Will never find him.
Feng Wei. His story is so forgettable they didn't bother to write one for T7.
Kuma because he's in every Tekken. Still a troll.
Bob. Oh God, why? He can now "transform" from slim to fat.
Bruce because Muay Thai is still popular.
New character 1. Taekyon girl that Harada mentioned to want to make. Girl in love with Hwoarang who instead chases after Jin since 1998.
New character 2. Badass military dude using Indonesian Silat. Based on "We won't ever admit it but it's Iko Uwais from The Raid". Instant player favorite.

Dead as in really dead:
Jun.
Baek.
Wang.
Jinpachi.
Alisa. Broken and left in the scrapyard by Lars. What's that smell?

Missing from first revision of Tekken 7:
All the rest.

(Until next version).

Phew, that was harder then I thought.

 

[Emperor Bohe]

I hope that both Marshall Law & Forest Law make it into Tekken 7. Marshall Law can be the elder that uses the typical style of Jeet Kune Do as seen in past games, and Forest Law can be expanded to use that cocky/dirty street version of Jeet Kune Do that he started showcasing in TTT2.

 

[Xevren]

I'm just happy you added someone with Silat style

 

[GrayFoxPL]

I'm just happy you added someone with Silat style

Silat is a must. Harada was asked for it countless times. Besides it would be an awesome addition.

 

[Doomshine]

I hope that both Marshall Law & Forest Law make it into Tekken 7. Marshall Law can be the elder that uses the typical style of Jeet Kune Do as seen in past games, and Forest Law can be expanded to use that cocky/dirty street version of Jeet Kune Do that he started showcasing in TTT2.

I don't think any of the TTT2 clones will make it, sorry.

 

[DEATH™]

A post by manny in the T7 thread made me realized I still need to practice fuzzy guarding... Help AAK... I think there is no way I can simulate anything to help in practice mode...

 

[Pachimari]

I want a Filipina girl doing Filipino Martial Arts, or at least have a guest appearance by Talim from Soul Calibur or something. Bring in Shin Kamiya. Add 3 more new characters. Eliza must stay away.

 

[Manbig]

A post by manny in the T7 thread made me realized I still need to practice fuzzy guarding... Help AAK... I think there is no way I can simulate anything to help in practice mode...

Actually, I believe that you can set something up. The idea here is to fuzzy guard versus so called mix ups where the option that's supposed to beat you out for standing is faster than the option that beats you out for crouching.

I know there are several strings that do this, but it's been so long since I was studying this stuff that I don't remember which specific ones.

Here's what you can do. Most 2 jabs are 0 on block. Pick a character that has one of those 0 on block 2 jabs, a quick low (14-15 frames) and a slightly slower mid (16-17 frames). Record two options. 2 jab into the low, and 2 jab into the mid. Put them both on random, block the 2 jab and then input d/f (for low parry) or d/b (for low block) and then tap back. You should be able to block both options every single time. This whole process is only really complicated when you're playing as a character with a roll dash like Paul, Dragunov, Bryan, etc...

So once you get the input down, work on reacting to blocking or low parrying the low and punishing properly.

It's not ideal, but it's a good start in my opinion.

 

[AAK]

Silat is a must. Harada was asked for it countless times. Besides it would be an awesome addition.

I asked Harada on the Tekken casino steam if he saw the raid 2. When Michael Murray posed the question to Harada neither of them knew what the heck the raid 2 was. I'm guessing neither of them have seen anything from Merantau films

Not gonna expect a silat fighter

Also I sincerely doubt they are gonna combine move lists like Hwoarang having a Baek stance. I'd love it but i predict a scv style cut from everyone's movelist.

A post by manny in the T7 thread made me realized I still need to practice fuzzy guarding... Help AAK... I think there is no way I can simulate anything to help in practice mode...

All I do is flash duck in case an unseeable low comes out. If it doesn't I just return to blocking/back dashing. That's all it is really. It's not something I grind in practice due to some execution requirement. It's just a mental state ingrained in me after 1000's of hours playing. The solution is to just play more against humans to be honest.

 

[Master Thespian]

Ooh, we doin' lists? Mine isn't far off from GFPL's, tbh.

• Heihachi (+ a Jinpachi move or three)
• Kazuya (+ Devil Jin's devil moves in while in devil mode. Devil!)
• Jin (+ some of Devil Jin's Mishama moves)
• Hwoarang
• Xiaoyu (+ #SELFIES)
• Asuka (+ some of Jun's animations)
• Nina (+ some of Anna's slappity slap slaps and dick kicks)
• Steve
• Paul
• Law (+moves from whichever one is left out)
• Bryan
• Yoshimitsu (+ Kunimitsu's flame breath)
• Raven (+ Kunimitsu influenced ninja moves)
• King (+ a bunch of Armor King's moves and his mask for his 2P costume)
• Marduk
• Julia (reanimate the remaining kung fu moves to look like lucha moves with the same properties)
• Lei (split his movelist like Vanessa from VF; animal style and drunken style and each has multiple stances within them)
• Feng (+ Wang's Waning Moon, parries, and hands behind the back kicks)
• Lili (+ Lee's Hitman stance)
• Leo
• Bob
• Miguel
• Dragunov
• Zafina (make her not be so terrible somehow)
• Lars (+ #BUFFS)
• Alisa
• Jack-7
• Kuma
• Roger or Alex
  
• Bruce or muay thai replacement
• Ganryu or sumo replacement
• Mokujin or Combot or mimic replacement
  
• Taekkyeon character
• Silat character sounds good to me
• Playable boss

If they go with the 35-ish number.

 

[Via Purifico]

I can see Julia going back to normal and the friend taking over this JC persona.
If Jun isn't in give some of her moves to Asuka.

Christie and Eddy need moves different from each other or share one slot.

 

[av2k]

I asked Harada on the Tekken casino steam if he saw the raid 2. When Michael Murray posed the question to Harada neither of them knew what the heck the raid 2 was. I'm guessing neither of them have seen anything from Merantau films

Not gonna expect a silat fighter

Also I sincerely doubt they are gonna combine move lists like Hwoarang having a Baek stance. I'd love it but i predict a scv style cut from everyone's movelist.



All I do is flash duck in case an unseeable low comes out. If it doesn't I just return to blocking/back dashing. That's all it is really. It's not something I grind in practice due to some execution requirement. It's just a mental state ingrained in me after 1000's of hours playing. The solution is to just play more against humans to be honest.

LOL! I think I was watching him explain that to Harada while chilling in the VIP room. Too drunk though, did you constantly hear people going "SHHHHHHHHHHH!"?

Also, I'm still extremely crushed from dropping the combo that would have sent AO to losers.

 

[AZUMIKE]

Harada likes 36-38 characters huh? Hmm...seems to me that this would be the optimal list:

1) Kazuya
2) Heihachi
3) Jin
4) Devil Jin
5) Asuka
6) Lars
7) Paul
8) Law
9) Nina
10) King
11) Jack
12) Yoshimistu
13) Lei
14) Bruce
15) Lee
16) Ganryu
17) Julia
18) Roger
19) Kuma
20) Ling
21) Hwoarang
22) Eddy
23) Bryan
24) Mokujin
25) Murduk
26) Steve
27) Raven
28) Feng
29) Dragunov
30) Lili
31) Bob
32) Leo
33) Miguel
34) Alisa
35-38) New characters

Those left out....

-Jun
-Jinpachi
-Ancient Orge
-True Orge
-Unknown
-Armor King
-Wang
-Baek
-Alex
-Tiger
-P-Jack
-Angel
-Michelle
-Miharu
-Dr. B
-Sebastian
-Violet
-Slim Bob
-Kunimistu
-Forest
-Panda
-Zafina
-Combot
-Anna

Most of these are "clones" (as far as their movesets go), for a lack of a better term. Off the top of my head, the hardest of these to let go are Jun, Jinpachi and Armor King. But they can live on in the remaining cast (i.e Asuka being even a little more like Jun, King behaving like Armor King etc). This might enrage some, but hey, someone has to go right?

 

[Doomshine]

Using UltWarrior's list I wouldn't count Mokujin as a separate character and I think two new characters is fine so I would throw back Wang and Armor King.

...and a personal decision for me would be to cut Roger and put Zafina back in

 

[AZUMIKE]

Lol, I had Zafina in originally, but I cut her to make room for another new character...

Lots of decisions Harada (and the rest of the Tekken Staff) will have to make regarding this roster.

 

[Dereck]

Can't wait for that next-gen Feng doooeee

 

[TestMonkey]

I'm hoping they clean house in the next one like they did between 2 and 3. Eliminate the older characters by implementing their move sets into some of the new ones. It's come to the point that the quantity of characters is starting to effect the quality of them.

 

[Dereck]

Nvm

 

[MrCookiepants]

Can't wait for that next-gen Feng doooeee

You use Feng now?

 

[Dereck]

You use Feng now?

Kind of

 

[MrCookiepants]

Kind of

Haha, I can tell you've been watching Hao. Lots of f+1,1 and d+2.

 

[Menome]

Providing I get everything sorted that I plan to, I should be free today for some match-ups at about 2pm UK time (9am East-Coast, 6am West Coast).

 

[Twinguistics]

I also play on wiiu but i am probably one of the few on this board.

How is it on Wii U? What's the lag like and how easy is it to get a game?

I'm so tempted to get this after watching some Evo and realising I've gone too long without a fighting game. Like 10 years too long lol.

 

[Pachimari]

I think it could be something like this:

01. Heihachi Mishima
02. Kazuya Mishima
03. Jin Kazama
04. Devil Jin
05. Lars Alexandersson
06. Lee Chaolan
07. Asuka Kazama
08. Bob Richards
09. Marshall Law
10. Christie Monteiro
11. King
12. Kuma
13. Yoshimitsu
14. Lei Wulong
15. Ling Xiaoyu
16. Lili Rochefort
17. Nina Williams
18. Paul Phoenix
19. Alisa Bosconovitch
20. Steve Fox
21. Feng Wei
22. Sergei Dragunov
23. Miguel Caballero Rojo
24. Raven
25. Hwoarang
26. Bryan Fury
27. Ganryu
28. Craig Marduk
29. Jack-7
30. Leo Kliesen
31. Zafina
32. Julia Chang
33. Roger Jr.
34. Mokujin
35. Bruce Irvin
36. NEW
37. NEW
38. NEW

The important Mishima characters to the story-line, the popular, and the most used characters will be back, while I don't think he'll cut any of the newcomers since Tekken 4 and those with unique styles. Ganryu will be there because Harada loves him.

 

[m0t0k1]

How is it on Wii U? What's the lag like and how easy is it to get a game?

I'm so tempted to get this after watching some Evo and realising I've gone too long without a fighting game. Like 10 years too long lol.

There are way less players then on psn can't compare it on xbox since i don't own one anymore. If you are low rank it still is easy to find matches around your rank but when you get to around grand master its hard to find same rank matches. While i can find matches of 3 bar and higher on ps3 all the time of the day. I can't do that on wii u bar the evenings and weekends but maybe this game is more played in the US since i live in EU. And you should expect a lot of 1 bar matches.

But overall i can play fine with 1 bar. which is kinda strange when i am playing on my ps3 even with 3 bar matches it can sometimes lag a lot and noticed when i playing sasuke which i had a 5 bar connection with more frame drops then playing on my wii u. But that is possible since my wii u is way closer to my router then ps3. The times the 1 bar connection was unplayable on wii u was like 5 times out of my 500 matches.

But you do notice a difference when comparing 4 bars to 1 bar. But it is manageable. The reason why i own it on wii u is tekken ball. which is exclusive to the wiiu. I play that with my friends all the time everybody can join in the fun because it is not as technical as the real meat of the game. You can't play that mode online. Also really like the Nintendo costumes. Seeing a captain falcon on steroids is hilarious. The game should be cheap now. It was €15 during an eshop sale a couple of weeks ago and the disk is in stores for around €20 so it's worth taking the risk because it is my most played wii u game.

 

[AZUMIKE]

I think it could be something like this:

That's pretty much my list without Bruce. NO GOOD! I think Bruce (or the kid in his ending from Tekken 2) should make it in.

 

[Twinguistics]

There are way less players then on psn can't compare it on xbox since i don't own one anymore. If you are low rank it still is easy to find matches around your rank but when you get to around grand master its hard to find same rank matches. While i can find matches of 3 bar and higher on ps3 all the time of the day. I can't do that on wii u bar the evenings and weekends but maybe this game is more played in the US since i live in EU. And you should expect a lot of 1 bar matches.

But overall i can play fine with 1 bar. which is kinda strange when i am playing on my ps3 even with 3 bar matches it can sometimes lag a lot and noticed when i playing sasuke which i had a 5 bar connection with more frame drops then playing on my wii u. But that is possible since my wii u is way closer to my router then ps3. The times the 1 bar connection was unplayable on wii u was like 5 times out of my 500 matches.

But you do notice a difference when comparing 4 bars to 1 bar. But it is manageable. The reason why i own it on wii u is tekken ball. which is exclusive to the wiiu. I play that with my friends all the time everybody can join in the fun because it is not as technical as the real meat of the game. You can't play that mode online. Also really like the Nintendo costumes. Seeing a captain falcon on steroids is hilarious. The game should be cheap now. It was €15 during an eshop sale a couple of weeks ago and the disk is in stores for around €20 so it's worth taking the risk because it is my most played wii u game.

Thanks! That all sounds good to me. My net connection is pretty good and, from what you've said, lag isn't a major issue. Nor is finding same rank matches until I get beastly (which may never happen!).

I have no one to play local multiplayer with at all so doubt I'll get much use out of Tekken ball but that's ok. I only own a Wii U so this version is my only option.

Yeah it's pretty cheap; £20 on the eShop (in the UK) or about £13 used online. The problem is I've only had Mario Kart 8 and the free Pikmin 3 for a month so might wait a bit first. I hate having a backlog.

Having said that, I'm desperate for a go. Wish there was a demo!

 

[sasuke_91]

2pm UK time

You're from UK? I'll add you later^^
I'm from Germany, so we might get a good connection.

 

[m0t0k1]

Thanks! That all sounds good to me. My net connection is pretty good and, from what you've said, lag isn't a major issue. Nor is finding same rank matches until I get beastly (which may never happen!).

I have no one to play local multiplayer with at all so doubt I'll get much use out of Tekken ball but that's ok. I only own a Wii U so this version is my only option.

Yeah it's pretty cheap; £20 on the eShop (in the UK) or about £13 used online. The problem is I've only had Mario Kart 8 and the free Pikmin 3 for a month so might wait a bit first. I hate having a backlog.

Having said that, I'm desperate for a go. Wish there was a demo!

Well if you want someone to play let met know your nnid so we can do a couple of rounds. If that is alright with you? I live in the Netherlands so we are bound to have at least 4 bar matches. I am also a beginner really So it will be fun to have someone to play who is around my level.

If you don't want a used copy tekken tag wii u is arround 13 pound on amazon UK

edit: I also must add that the game is pretty huge if you go the eshop route. Its 17GB so i hope you have some space on your wiiu and if you don't its almost full after this game.

 

[Pachimari]

That's pretty much my list without Bruce. NO GOOD! I think Bruce (or the kid in his ending from Tekken 2) should make it in.

Oh I didn't read yours until now sorry. Yeah, pretty similar.

WAIT, how could I forget Bruce!? He's like one of my favorites, if not top 3!

But if it were a list of who I wanted in, then Michelle, JayCee, Angel and Wang would definitely be there.

 

[Twinguistics]

Well if you want someone to play let met know your nnid so we can do a couple of rounds. If that is alright with you? I live in the Netherlands so we are bound to have at least 4 bar matches. I am also a beginner really So it will be fun to have someone to play who is around my level.

If you don't want a used copy tekken tag wii u is arround 13 pound on amazon UK

That's totally fine with me, good idea. My NNid is Twinguistics.

I highly doubt I'm around your level but I plan to spend some time in the practice room and really want to have a crack at playing it without mashing.

Might be a few weeks before I get a copy, but get one I will.

 

[m0t0k1]

That's totally fine with me, good idea. My NNid is Twinguistics.

I highly doubt I'm around your level but I plan to spend some time in the practice room and really want to have a crack at playing it without mashing.

Might be a few weeks before I get a copy, but get one I will.

Ill be sure to add you soon. My nnid is m0tok1 since my original name was already taken

 

[AZUMIKE]

Oh I didn't read yours until now sorry. Yeah, pretty similar.

WAIT, how could I forget Bruce!? He's like one of my favorites, if not top 3!

But if it were a list of who I wanted in, then Michelle, JayCee, Angel and Wang would definitely be there.

Now are lists are effectively identical, save for Zafina.

3 new characters instead of 2 is likely IMO.

 

[AAK]

All I want is at least 8 brand new move-lists... probably not gonna happen.

LOL! I think I was watching him explain that to Harada while chilling in the VIP room. Too drunk though, did you constantly hear people going "SHHHHHHHHHHH!"?

Also, I'm still extremely crushed from dropping the combo that would have sent AO to losers.

I couldn't hear it from the NYCFab stream, but man I heard it constantly on Wonkey's upload of kurokuro's stream haha. Also it happens to the best of us. Speedkicks also dropped a game winning combo against Knee for the first Final Round that had TTT2.

 

[Dereck]

8 new movelists for 8 returning characters or 8 new movelists for 8 new characters?

 

[AAK]

Either or... Doesn't matter to me

But preferrably, brand new characters. It's always fascinating to see new character designs. Although ever since T6, they've been running out of ideas with Bob, Miguel, Alisa, Lars who don't really have any type of martial art... just a bunch of attacks complemented by their character design.

 

[Menome]

Either or... Doesn't matter to me

But preferrably, brand new characters. It's always fascinating to see new character designs. Although ever since T6, they've been running out of ideas with Bob, Miguel, Alisa, Lars who don't really have any type of martial art... just a bunch of attacks complemented by their character design.

Are you telling me that pulling off my own head and throwing it at people so hard that it explodes isn't a viable martial art? /dreamsruined

 

[AAK]

Also guys, don't forget that there's a big ATL tournament this weekend:

http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2014/5/20/high-stakes-tekken-weekend-summer-2014-atlanta.html

 

[Menome]

Also guys, don't forget that there's a big ATL tournament this weekend:

http://www.avoidingthepuddle.com/news/2014/5/20/high-stakes-tekken-weekend-summer-2014-atlanta.html

Darn it, it's on too late to watch on Friday and I'm out on Saturday evening. Do ATL normally record their footage as well as stream it?

 

[Pachimari]

That's also what I want the most. At least SOME new movelists based on real fighting.

I want a Filipino character based on Arnis/Eskrima/Kali.

 

[AAK]

Darn it, it's on too late to watch on Friday and I'm out on Saturday evening. Do ATL normally record their footage as well as stream it?

I'm not sure, but the tournament will start Saturday at 2 PM, the Friday thing is just to pick up badges. Hopefully the archives will be saved, I don't see why not.

 

[Menome]

I'm not sure, but the tournament will start Saturday at 2 PM, the Friday thing is just to pick up badges. Hopefully the archives will be saved, I don't see why not.

2pm Saturday Atlanta is, I believe, 7pm over here and I'm out for a friend's birthday drinks that evening.

 

[Dereck]

Either or... Doesn't matter to me

But preferrably, brand new characters. It's always fascinating to see new character designs. Although ever since T6, they've been running out of ideas with Bob, Miguel, Alisa, Lars who don't really have any type of martial art... just a bunch of attacks complemented by their character design.

Nah, Leo and Miguel are at the top when it comes to the newest characters, the others I agree with.

 

[Basketball]

I liked Jun , Kunimitsu, Christie , and Alisa

I really hope they're playable Tekken 7

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Was this posted?

Aris got some thoughts and info from Harada on Tekken 7.

I didn't listen to it yet.

 

[Pachimari]

Was this posted?

Aris got some thoughts and info from Harada on Tekken 7.

I didn't listen to it yet.

Nah, was linked in the other thread. It's interesting, so take a listen whenever you got time for it.

Also, my name before were -, and I think it was boutdown who tried sparring with my Law. If anyone even remembers me in here anymore hehe. I think I were donning a Leo avatar.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Nah, was linked in the other thread. It's interesting, so take a listen whenever you got time for it.

Also, my name before were Anastacio, and I think it was boutdown who tried sparring with my Law. If anyone even remembers me in here anymore hehe. I think I were donning a Leo avatar.

Oh welcome back.

Yeah that's some tasty info Aris got.

Some scraps:

Tekken 7 is 1 on 1. Thank God.

Confirmed Revolution was developed for noobies and it's concepts will not be carried over apart maybe of back walk that no one was against. Pheew.
See Death, don't worry.

Instead for new players some characters will be designed to be easier to use then hardcore ones. Wasn't always like that? Deaaathfiiiiiiiiiiiiist!

 

[Doomshine]

I tried to tell everyone they were overreacting to Revolution, but they wouldn't listen

 

[Via Purifico]

I for one did not take Revolution seriously. I knew it was a testing ground for noobs and other ideas.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

I tried to tell everyone they were overreacting to Revolution, but they wouldn't listen

I knew it was noobie version of tekken. Invincible noob tube, one hit grounded oki, no rejuggle, no bound, stats that at 200 power killed in 3-4 hits. Of course f2p Tekken Lite wasn't direction series was going, lol.