Of course it won't.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: This is a fantasy based on OLED
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Of course it won't.
The B6 is an absolutely incredible TV, and at its current prices, even if they're a little higher than a couple of months ago, are stellar.
It's hard to really know what the 2017s will be at by this time next year, but they will certainly drop in price. I just doubt they'll get as low as the 2016 sets did, but I'm pulling that doubt from my butt. I'm not nearly as seasoned and in the know as a lot of people in this thread.
That being said, I absolutely adore my B6, and would highly recommend it if you find the right price. Doubt you could go wrong with any of the 2016-2017 models either, again, for the right price.
Caayn
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Doesn't that alter the output resolution as well if you're playing in fullscreen? Don't you need borderless fullscreen for the desktop resolution to remain the output resolution?
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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whats the best TV for gaming for ps4 pro & Nintendo switch I've just moved in my house and I am looking for reasonably good TV I'm from Ireland so any irish links would be great
Caayn
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It'd help if you mentioned your budget and desired size
Just saying "what's the best TV for X" is a question with a large amount of possible answers.biggersmaller
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So this the new plasma? I miss my old Panasonic. :-(
Spartancarver
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If you want Plasma-level contrast ratio right now you should he looking at OLED.
LG OLED 55EG910V. You have some offers from 1079 onwards on Idealo, a friend of mine just got one from televisoresonline, trustworthy site for 1150. A bit over your butget but ABSOLUTELY worth it. I have the 2014 model an its leaps and bounds better to any other tv at the same range.
Edit: Just read about future proof. The TV is not 4k so wont be future proof in that aspect, but imo is still the best option atm. But that's because I wouldn't consider anything else than OLED.
OLED is the new plasma tho
Couldn't nvidia move from an AFR mode to some kind of VR style rendering where they render a single frame across two GPUs? Checkerboarding could make sense for that
KharmaPolice
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I am in the same situation. As far as i researched:
The Panasonic UB404 and Sony X800 offer good build quality and picture performance. The Panasonic seems to be a bit better though.
The Samsung K8500 and LG UP970 are cheaper with worse build quality and not as good picture processing (still decent picks though, especially if you want to save money).
If you are rich then the Oppo delivers premium build quality and picture processing at a premium price point.
My problem is Dolby Vision. So far only LG and Oppo have announced to update their players with DV support. Sony said they will consider updating if the format proves to be popular. I don't think Panasonic said anything regarding DV. I doubt Samsung will offer DV support.
So if you have a DV capable TV keep this in mind.
Caayn
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Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Nvidia lets both GPUs render one "eye" when used in SLI and VR. Obviously such a trick won't work with a 2D display. There's SFR which uses all GPUs to render a single frame but that is generally incompatible with rendering techniques that use data from the frame previous frame(s) such as checkerboarding.
Forget plasma. Looked good but heavy, hot, and loud.
OLED looks great with none of that baggage.
Signed,
Ex VT60 owner
Caayn
Member
Don't you mean OLED?
Same here. Although I jumped a bit earlier, got a 2015 4K OLED. My VT60 delivered a great picture but I don't miss it. Don't miss the fans on the VT60 at all.
Heh, yes. Wrote that too quickly.
Theonik
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That's not a solution. In the first place you need to combine the work of both cards which would add latency.
Moreover SLI originally meant 'Scan Line Interleve' because they would render half a frame on each card. This was before nVidia bought the tech. The strategy doesn't make much sense on modern games.
TakeItSlowDude
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OLED already is direct emission.
Eh, I mean some FALD or high end local dimming LED sets were already pretty great with their black levels. But OLED is pretty much ahead of Plasma in a lot of ways. Some issues with motion, but Sony has rectified a bit with the A1E.
I think you would be happy with a lot of the high end televisions this year ie. Sony X930/940E, Panasonic DX900, Samsung Q9F etc.
Yappadappadu
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That sounds too good/easy to be true, but I have no idea so I would have to try it.
If that measurement is correct as the Leo Bodnar tester officially only supports 60 Hz, then there's still the problem that many games don't (properly) support 120 fps (like Nier Automata) or am I misunderstanding something? Anyways, very interesting news and I wonder whether that also applies to the 2017 LG OLEDs.
@ACH1LL3US:
Did you try measuring the input lag of your C7 @1080p/120fps?
EDIT:
Ok, found this in the Questions & Answers section of the rtings C7 review:
Right guys.
I'm fixing to get a new TV for HDR purposes with a budget of £900 (max) in the UK. I'm looking to get either the KS7000 or the KS8000.
My issue is I have no idea what the tangible differences are between these sets in terms of pure image quality? Anyone know which is more worthwhile to get. I will gaming and watching movies/shows on it.
I'm fixing to get a new TV for HDR purposes with a budget of £900 (max) in the UK. I'm looking to get either the KS7000 or the KS8000.
My issue is I have no idea what the tangible differences are between these sets in terms of pure image quality? Anyone know which is more worthwhile to get. I will gaming and watching movies/shows on it.
I'm sure this has been asked before, but googling and searching has not provided an answer. I bought an E6 a month ago and have an issue with black levels on the PS4 Pro. Setting the Full/High combination gets accurate blacks in games but then results in Blu ray movies being washed out. Setting Limited/Low gets both accurate, but does it cause any other issues? Intuitively it seems as though that combination limits the effectiveness of my TV.
ShooterMcGavin
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Welp, thought I was 4K-ready but turns out I'm missing one critical piece - a compatible receiver. This didn't even cross my mind, considering my receiver is "only" 3-4 years old (Pioneer).
Looks like I'm plugging right into the TV for the time being.
Looks like I'm plugging right into the TV for the time being.
Unknown Soldier
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Direct emission implies no color filters like the current LG WOLED panels. The Samsung RGB OLED TVs were truly direct emission.
Chris_Rivera
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Just watched my first UHD bluray movie on a new Costco 65B7P. Ended up with a 7 year warranty, which I'm hopeful could bear fruit down the road. We have little ones, so this Trolls uhd disc will probably be spinning daily. It's a heck of an upgrade from a 55" 2011 Samsung led.
I did a quick check in English and Swedish av forums. Some people seem to argue that the 8000 has slightly better blacks but most seem to think the difference is not noticable. The 8000 is also supposed to have stronger speakers, a centraly placed stand as opposed to the two smaller feet on the 7000 (a consideration if you a placing it on a smaller furniture). And a couple of people said the 8000 have 4ms less of lag.
If the prices are very close and your budget allows it I'd say go with the 8000, but I doubt you'll regret it if you pick the 7000.
holygeesus
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What TV? If it is only a 5.1 receiver, then plug all your devices direct to the TV, then use the optical out of the TV to the optical in of your receiver, until you upgrade.
Or ARC channel if you have that
That is true, but it would at least be nice if OLED got to the point of matching or exceeding plasma in all the major areas of picture quality.
When you have gotten used to plasma having near-perfect motion resolution, uniformity, and viewing angles, I think you become more sensitive to OLEDs deficiencies in those areas. It's like the switch from CRTs to LCDs. Two steps forward, one step back.
There's no tangible difference between Full/Limited as long as it matches the setting of the TV. You don't lose out on anything by keeping it at Limited - don't worry about that.
(I also own the E6)
Gona have to pick up a tv now instead of waiting for a few months.
Made a thread, hope I'm on the right track?
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1370116
Made a thread, hope I'm on the right track?
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1370116
Get the B6. You'll love it.
NYR
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B6. No brainer!
As a long time HP fan, I didn't think it was a very good film, but I did read that the UHD disc brings better visuals due to HDR.
I didn't love it, but it was good. Just didn't feel any connection with the characters, but it still had some Rowling magic.
UHD was pretty great too.
Go with an B6 I was very sceptical changing from a plasma tv but I can fairly say I was blown away buy the PQ and even better I paid 1600e with extended warranty.
Get the KS8000. Its native 120Hz, better black panel. Handles HDR better. Superior to the 7 series.
Warm Machine
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What is a good TV that is 65" for the Canadian price of around $1500 +/- $200
Want 4k and HDR
Want 4k and HDR
Annnnd FML. LG literally dropped the MSRP 6 hours after I ordered the set from $4499 to $3999.
Amazon & the third-party seller are telling me to go pound sand, and Amex doesn't offer price protection, so I'm out $500, because the third party seller tells me if I refuse shipment then it won't count as a return because their shipping facilities can't accept returns and it has to go through an RMA.
So then I could waste a week turning a TV around back and forth across the country by spending $200 to ship it so I can save a net $300.
Jesus. How depressing.
My mom called me frustrated Saturday morning. Guess my sister kept their B6 on all night and the cable feed froze during an infomercial. She said there was a frozen image of a man sweeping or something. Anyways, I guide her through the screen clearing feature to get rid of the IR. Doesn't fix it. Then I have her power off the TV and unplug it for the night. This morning she turns it on and it's still there. I tell her then to cycle through channels for a bit so there is never anything static. No go.
Guess this is permanent​ burn in? I know OLED has image retention, but I haven't seen much of anything permanent online. That said my Note 3 backup phone has permanent burn in from the status bar, though I figured that was because it was an old AMOLED display. Luckily my rents bought their B6 with a usually worthless Best Buy service warranty and BB will be sending over a tech tomorrow, and of they can't fix it they will replace the unit.
Guess this is permanent​ burn in? I know OLED has image retention, but I haven't seen much of anything permanent online. That said my Note 3 backup phone has permanent burn in from the status bar, though I figured that was because it was an old AMOLED display. Luckily my rents bought their B6 with a usually worthless Best Buy service warranty and BB will be sending over a tech tomorrow, and of they can't fix it they will replace the unit.
A few screen cleaning cycles should do it as long as they don't interrupt it.