Screw your FALDs. Screw your OLEDs.
Give me this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLiVrU42kqE
*drool*
Hopefully someone will do a in-depth test of this projector.
Screw your FALDs. Screw your OLEDs.
Give me this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLiVrU42kqE
*drool*
So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
The black level of a projected image can only be as dark as the surface it is projected on.Too bad blacks on a projector (even a $25k one) seem to wash out super bad under bright conditions...OLED at 77 should be enough for any sane human being in a couple years when the prices are reasonable.
It needs some DV lovin.
Got mine in. The flicker is nowhere near like the one I played with in store. This A1E is legit. Can't wait to calibrate it after some hours on it. This set is so much brighter than my EF9500 its crazy. OLEDs brightness certainly get exponentially brighter with smaller nit increases as opposed to LEDs. I can't imagine what a Z9 would be like as I found this thing way too bright for my tastes and turned it way down.
So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
Nice. I'm very close to pulling the trigger and getting this baby, since this was what I was waiting for for my first OLED (OLED + Sony's processing) and since I like motion particularly on the Sony's I've owned.
I don't think I want to pass it up now that it's finally here.
That's really amazing for the money, unbelievably with DV too, God knows how they managed all that for the price tag.
Please stay strong and wait till a HDMI 2.1 model is probably out next year. I still fight the urge not to buy any TV this year :-(
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Vincent is funny as f*ck!
He is also the number 1 TV reviewer of them all imo. I'm a long time reader of his site and i absolutely love his videos.
Vincent Teoh and David Mackenzie (also from HDTVtest) helped my a lot through the years in making my decision when buying a new TV.
The A1 and C7 are a close match it seems. Both are really great TV's with an infinite contrast ratio (thank you OLED) but as a core gamer i value the lower input lag (21ms at 4K and 1080p) and brighter full screen whites of the C7 more.
ABL (automatic brightness limiter) is less agressive on the C7. And the games i play have a lot of bright scenes! My VT60 plasma is still good, but one thing i hate the most of this TV, and that is it's agressive ABL. The less ABL the better imo! But to each his own.
So for my birthday in June my wife gave me the okay to go buy a 55" 4K tv to replace our old 42" 1080p tv. My original budget was ~$1000, but looking now, I'm trying to keep it at ~$800. My only firm requirement is that it has to have HDR, but I generally want to get the most bang for my buck. I'm even willing to go down to a 50" screen if it means I can get a better quality display for my money.
Amazon has several warehouse deals for the Sony X850D for $778, which is nice. Hopefully it will still be there in two weeks when I'm ready to buy. I've done Warehouse before, and I've usually come out ahead.
There's also the Sony X700D which is $800 new on Amazon.
If not, how are the Vizio M-series? I know some people look down on Vizio, but that's what my current TV is and I like it a lot. The Vizio M55-D0 is $700 at Best Buy, which might be nice as well.
Any thoughts for me on this? Is there anything I've missed that I should look at? There seemed to be a million options when I looked last night, but this morning these are the only ones that are sticking out to me.
So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
Seems like the best bang for the buck tv right now, especially since it's fald.
LOL I saw first reviews and assumed that it was something I couldn't afford. Glossed right over. I'll look now, thanks!
Please stay strong and wait till a HDMI 2.1 model is probably out next year. I still fight the urge not to buy any TV this year :-(
Hold out for HDMI 3.0 in 2020! Huge mistake buying a TV next year!
Or even better, hold out for HDMI 3.1ac-x in 2022!
But keep in mind, HDMI Super Hyper Turbo Ultra Street Fighter 4.0 is just around the corner too!
Hold out for HDMI 3.0 in 2020! Huge mistake buying a TV next year!
Or even better, hold out for HDMI 3.1ac-x in 2022!
But keep in mind, HDMI Super Hyper Turbo Ultra Street Fighter 4.0 is just around the corner too!
To be fair, HDMI 2.1 is a huge leap and VRR is a vital feature for gaming. I don't blame anyone that chooses to wait 2.1 in the next year or two.
nah. People might get upset but 2.1 is a big upgrade from 2a or 2b. Even if consumers hold out until next year for 2.1 though we probably won't see it in BD players and game consoles gfx cards until 2019 ish.Hold out for HDMI 3.0 in 2020! Huge mistake buying a TV next year!
Or even better, hold out for HDMI 3.1ac-x in 2022!
But keep in mind, HDMI Super Hyper Turbo Ultra Street Fighter 4.0 is just around the corner too!
nah. People might get upset but 2.1 is a big upgrade from 2a or 2b. Even if consumers hold out until next year for 2.1 though we probably won't see it in BD players and game consoles gfx cards until 2019 ish.
To be fair, HDMI 2.1 is a huge leap and VRR is a vital feature for gaming. I don't blame anyone that chooses to wait 2.1 in the next year or two.
To be fair, HDMI 2.1 is a huge leap and VRR is a vital feature for gaming. I don't blame anyone that chooses to wait 2.1 in the next year or two.
Since I'm cheap....itll probably be between this, the vizio m or the new hisense. Good to hear they're being competitive in my favor,and doing it well.So the new TCL P Series first early "review" is out. TV seems almost too good to be true for $599, 55". I ordered off Amazon last night and it's already sold out. I believe Costco will be getting these sets.
http://www.avsforum.com/tcl-55-p-series-model-55p607-4k-hdr-roku-tv-with-dolby-vision-first-look/
Vital? I have had GSYNC displays for years now and yet I have no issue switching back to consoles. It's nice, sure, but I would hardly call it vital.
I personally don't think so because of how big the jump is. There is nothing on the market that can run 10k resolutions in the next 5 years. I think 2.1 will have staying powerAnd by the time that happens, we'll have 2.1a on displays and everyone will be worried about whether devices can be upgraded in firmware.
The big difference is that HDMI 2.1 is a major upgrade, it's a larger upgrade than 1.4 to 2.0x.Hold out for HDMI 3.0 in 2020! Huge mistake buying a TV next year!
Or even better, hold out for HDMI 3.1ac-x in 2022!
But keep in mind, HDMI Super Hyper Turbo Ultra Street Fighter 4.0 is just around the corner too!
To be fair, HDMI 2.1 is a huge leap and VRR is a vital feature for gaming. I don't blame anyone that chooses to wait 2.1 in the next year or two.
I expect VRR to be a feature only used on the most expensive TVs when it's available. Vizio's CTO on AVSFORUMS said adding it to TV's wouldnt be simple.
Vital? I have had GSYNC displays for years now and yet I have no issue switching back to consoles. It's nice, sure, but I would hardly call it vital.
I personally don't think so because of how big the jump is. There is nothing on the market that can run 10k resolutions in the next 5 years. I think 2.1 will have staying power
The big difference is that HDMI 2.1 is a major upgrade, it's a larger upgrade than 1.4 to 2.0x.
2.1 is also really future proof with support for upto 10K.
HDMI 2.1 features have been announced, and they are significant for anyone with a gaming PC or planning to buy an Xbox Scorpio.Hold out for HDMI 3.0 in 2020! Huge mistake buying a TV next year!
Or even better, hold out for HDMI 3.1ac-x in 2022!
But keep in mind, HDMI Super Hyper Turbo Ultra Street Fighter 4.0 is just around the corner too!
If you are the sort that is planning on keeping your next TV for many years, it is absolutely worth waiting for 2018's sets unless you actually need a new TV now.
HDMI 2.1 features have been announced, and they are significant for anyone with a gaming PC or planning to buy an Xbox Scorpio.
It probably affects the PlayStation 4 Pro too, if they can add support via a firmware update. If not, the next hardware revision.
People worrying over 20ms vs 30ms input lag is laughable compared to the difference that VRR makes.
The TV side of input lag is only 20-30ms on top of the 100ms+ that V-Sync causes at 30 FPS on consoles.
VRR eliminates the V-Sync lag.
And that's aside from the whole "variable refresh" thing, which makes games play a lot smoother, and allows for unlocked framerates rather than having to cap at 30 or 60.
HDMI 2.1 also supports 4K at 120Hz, which is a huge deal for PC gamers.
The panels used in TVs today are already 120Hz native, they just haven't had an input which supports that yet.
It's the biggest upgrade in a long time - especially for gamers.
If you are the sort that is planning on keeping your next TV for many years, it is absolutely worth waiting for 2018's sets unless you actually need a new TV now.