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Texas Becoming A Magnet For Conservatives Fleeing Liberal States Like California

What a loser.

he's not wrong though. Rich people are on the coast, poor people are in the central valley and they are indeed forgotten. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard people say "Bakersfield?! Why?" when I tell them I'm visiting. "Fuck you got mine" is not exclusive to the right
 

Swiggins

Member
Great, the last thing we need is more conservative troglodytes moving to this state.

Though if I could afford it I'd move to California in a hearbeat, disgusted with the state government.

Californian chiming in. I'm a hardcore democratic leftist...I'm still considering moving out of California and into a more "purpley" state.

Cost of living here is bonkers. I have several friends who moved to "redder" pastures (Arizona, Colorado, Florida) and they're all living nicer than I am at a fraction of the cost.

It's not all it's cracked up to be...I love the Golden State, but living here is slowly becoming untenable for anybody not well off already.

I've got connections in Colorado Springs and Austin...anybody from there wanna tell me what the job market is like?
 

RPGCrazied

Member
We don't need anymore of these people in Texas, we have enough. Not easy being a liberal here, unless its one of the bigger cities.
 
How about this.

How about we stop giving a fuck about political beliefs and start caring about your fellow man.

These are your people and your neighbors. You are a part of a community. Just because they vote a different way does not make you a better person.
 

see5harp

Member
he's not wrong though. Rich people are on the coast, poor people are in the central valley and they are indeed forgotten. I can't even tell you how many times I've heard people say "Bakersfield?! Why?" when I tell them I'm visiting. "Fuck you got mine" is not exclusive to the right

I was referring to him losing two congress bids in a row and deciding to pack up and leave.
 

Pyrokai

Member
They're moving to the gigantic suburbs that are red as fuck and dwarf the cities.

Yeah, this as well. Sprawl keeps people segragated, and Texas needs to get its sprawl under control. It's just ridiculous. Houston is about 50 times bigger in area than it needs to be. Like.....TWO outerbelts? It's the 4th largest city in America and has probably 50 times the highway surface area of NYC. It's so ridiculous.

And I hate to go here, but I feel like the sprawl has exacerbated the flooding from Harvey in Houston. There's just no place for the water to go.
 
How about this.

How about we stop giving a fuck about political beliefs and start caring about your fellow man.

These are your people and your neighbors. You are a part of a community. Just because they vote a different way does not make you a better person.

Caring about your fellow man has become a political belief.
 
I've got connections in Colorado Springs and Austin...anybody from there wanna tell me what the job market is like?

Unless you can get a military contracting job or want to do the medical marijuana thing, Colorado Springs is real bad when it comes to cost of living versus jobs right now.
 

entremet

Member
Seems reasonable honestly. California, especially the coast is very expensive. Dude is gonna have 4 kids. I can't blame him. Freedom of movement is one of the great things about the US.

I'm in NYC, so I'm aware of the dumb zoning and NIMBYsm in bluer areas, leading to high costs of living.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I wouldn't commend them either way. Weather is just a natural phenomenon and has no motivation.
Exactly. It's just disheartening reading trolling comments on news stories about the flooding that imply that Texans deserved this for being largely conservative. Probably wasn't your intent, just sensitive to the issue right now
 

ChrisD

Member
No please come. Because it already wasn't hard enough wanting to vote Democrat here lol
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I'd be fine with Texas just receiving all the Right. Maybe once all of those who just can't handle the liberal snowflakes controlling their lives get consolidated into one state, other states can more easily flip blue.

nothing would change here, anyways


Okay I'm jaded, I do forget that for every McKinney there's an Austin. I live in a super heavy Red area, so that's my main view of Texas.
 

ReAxion

Member
I'm glad I'm literally voting this man out of the state. You don't want tax increases but you want to needlessly keep people in jail. Get gone, dude. Nothing about you is redeemable.
 
Conservatives seem to have a lot of services --(a service that helps your relocate to a red state)-- do liberals have such services ?

I feel like conservatives do a lot more for each other to increase their numbers/recruitments as opposed to liberals. Is my thinking incorrect ?


If liberals did the same, they would become a lot more dominating .
 

Jeels

Member
Ya these people aren't actually making a dent compared to all the liberals from blue states coming to Texas cities for work and the waves of immigrants all the Texas cities get. This dude is not very bright if he thinks Texas is going to remain red forever.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Conservatives seem to have a lot of services --(a service that helps your relocate to a red state)-- do liberals have such services ?

I feel like conservatives do a lot more for each other to increase their numbers/recruitments as opposed to liberals. Is my thinking incorrect ?


If liberals did the same, they would become a lot more dominating .

I don't think the point of this is to outvote liberals, it's part of "white flight".
 

L176

Member
I'm Finnish (never been to states myself) and I have an example of this in my family. My cousins moved from Chicago to Austin, Texas pretty much cause of their conservativeness. They are hard core republican cons that seem to believe any Trump/Fox news bullshit there is.
 
Clinton overperformed Obama in Texas, as even the article seems to cede obliquely. Where's the evidence this is systemic and not just a cherry-picked anecdote? And by the way, if it was systemic, what's the evidence it has anything to do with values and not just the obvious explanation that the people are wealthy and Texas has lower taxes and they're fleeing primarily for pocketbook reasons?

I have no doubt that there are individual people moving from everywhere to everywhere for every reason.

I know journalists feel bad that they missed the collapse and rage of white rural America, but they don't need to do a thousand of these pieces every week designed to make it very clear that Actually There Are Places Between The Coasts without saying anything of substance. Useless navelgazing.

The amazing part is that white rural America's ideological standards are based on romanticized views of meritocracy, Laissez Faire capitalism, and innovation, all things people of their ilk are terrible at.
 

TAJ

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
This sounds an awful lot like the tribalism that conservatives accuse immigrants of.
 
Conservatives seem to have a lot of services --(a service that helps your relocate to a red state)-- do liberals have such services ?

I feel like conservatives do a lot more for each other to increase their numbers/recruitments as opposed to liberals. Is my thinking incorrect ?

Conservatives are motivated by the need to preserve and transmit their ideology.

Liberals are motivated by the need to secure good-paying jobs and offer support and services to others struggling to do the same.

Guess which one of these groups is more likely to be concerned with ideological affinity?
 

dramatis

Member
Tell them to lure some people from Pennsylvania. And upstate New York.

Also, that 20 million figure isn't California alone. CA has a population of about 30 million people. If there were actually that many Republicans there, then they wouldn't have to move lol

You would think all this clamoring about capitalism and bootstraps and the worst off states being Republican should tell them that maybe Republican ideas and conservative ideology isn't prosperous.
 

Kirye

Member
That's cool, I know of a few Texans who moved to California because they're tired of the state being so conservative.
 

Swiggins

Member
I'm Finnish (never been to states myself) and I have an example of this in my family. My cousins moved from Chicago to Austin, Texas pretty much cause of their conservativeness. They are hard core republican cons that seem to believe any Trump/Fox news bullshit there is.

If they did that then they're very...very stupid.

Austin is one of the most liberal cities in the US.
 

MogCakes

Member
Texas is the very definition of blue islands in a red rural sea. And unfortunately, property is favored over individual votes.
 
What part of Texas are you moving to?

I'm thinking about the Dallas area, but Austin wouldn't be bad either. I've heard there's a sizable Ghanaian community in Dallas and that it isn't too hard to find a decent IT job (I'm a software dev). Definitely aware of the Harvey situation, so I'm not planning on moving right away, but I'm hoping I can land a job sometime early next year and move.
 
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