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DTKT

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Gonna call the Lenovo laptop retailer in my region just to see if there's any shop within my area that can provide a Lenovo Y580, searched some shops today but couldn't find it.
Did find these Lenovo laptop specs:
Lenovo Z580
Intel i5 Processor 3210M
NVIDIA GForce GT 635M
6GB RAM

Lenovo G580
Intel i5 Processor 3210M
NVIDIA GForce 610M
6GB RAM

Both were running Windows 8 but I'll ask them if they can give me one with Windows 7

Keep in mind that both are those have much worse GPU and CPU when compared to the Y580 with a 660m and the i7-3630QM
 

Omiee

Member
What is the fastest Laptop under 1500 euro?

I want to be able to play games on it on max etc.

I like macbook pro's sleek design. Are there any other brands that have almost the same quality design
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Been using a work laptop for years so I'm thinking I'll put my Christmas money to good use and grab myself one of my own. It won't be anywhere near as good as the ones most of you in here are buying but I was hoping I could call on people's advice as I'm well out of the loop on laptop specs

I'm in the UK and looking to spend around £400. It will mainly be used for watching media and running stuff to my tv so HDMI out is a must. Any games it could play would be a bonus - I'm not looking for Crysis on max settings obviously but the more of the little cool indie steam games I can play the better as I haven't had my own pc or laptop for over 5 years and there's tonnes I've missed out on

Basically, what's the most bang for my buck at roughly £400-500 but preferably closer to £400?

If you don't mind a 17.3" machine, this Lenovo G780 fits your criteria. Core i3, Nvidia GT 630M, and has an HDMI out.

I'm waiting for a transformer-style W8 laptop. I'm guessing for one that would be halfway decent for gaming, I'd be waiting for Intel's Haswell? Or are there any AMD Fusion APUs announced in Transformer form factor yet? (Maybe at CES?)

I have heard that even the higher end AMD APUs are quite terrible for Wii/PS2 emulation. Is this still true?

Yeah you'll have to wait for Haswell, if you can. Its HD 5000 graphics will be pretty amazing.

AMD's current CPUs are just too rubbish, but I don't know what new tech they have in store for CES.

What's the best 13" laptop for gaming? I'm just curious as to what's available as it seems like the majority of "gaming" laptops are 17"+
Best 13" is the Sony VAIO S w/ GT 640M LE.

Then there's the 14" ASUS G46VW w/ GTX 660M.
 

Mairu

Member
If you don't mind a 17.3" machine, this Lenovo G780 fits your criteria. Core i3, Nvidia GT 630M, and has an HDMI out.



Yeah you'll have to wait for Haswell, if you can. Its HD 5000 graphics will be pretty amazing.

AMD's current CPUs are just too rubbish, but I don't know what new tech they have in store for CES.


Best 13" is the Sony VAIO S w/ GT 640M LE.

Then there's the 14" ASUS G46VW w/ GTX 660M.

The ASUS looks somewhat interesting but the only "purchase-able" one I see from quick googling is here from Best Buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...218806576744&skuId=6775259&st=G46VW&cp=1&lp=1

The ASUS website shows an option for one with a 1600x900 display - is that sold anywhere or just not released yet?
 

Danj

Member
Yeah you'll have to wait for Haswell, if you can. Its HD 5000 graphics will be pretty amazing.

I think you mean 4600:

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chunk3rvd

Member
If you don't mind a 17.3" machine, this Lenovo G780 fits your criteria. Core i3, Nvidia GT 630M, and has an HDMI out.

Thanks for the help!

When I look at the page it says the £450 model has integrated graphics and I need to pay about £670 if I want a graphics card as well (along with a larger hard drive and 2gb more memory). Am I reading this right/wrong? Are the integrated graphics the 630M you mention above or is that what I would have to pay extra for?

Sorry - like I said, I'm well out of the loop on all this. Used to love building and upgrading desktops and stuff 10 years ago but now it's all practically in foreign to me!
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
The ASUS looks somewhat interesting but the only "purchase-able" one I see from quick googling is here from Best Buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...218806576744&skuId=6775259&st=G46VW&cp=1&lp=1

The ASUS website shows an option for one with a 1600x900 display - is that sold anywhere or just not released yet?

Yeah I'm pretty sure the 900p one will be available after Best Buy's exclusivity deal runs out. No one knows how long that is right now.

I think you mean 4600:

Huh, so that's what it's called. Thanks for the heads up.

Thanks for the help!

When I look at the page it says the £450 model has integrated graphics and I need to pay about £670 if I want a graphics card as well (along with a larger hard drive and 2gb more memory). Am I reading this right/wrong? Are the integrated graphics the 630M you mention above or is that what I would have to pay extra for?

Sorry - like I said, I'm well out of the loop on all this. Used to love building and upgrading desktops and stuff 10 years ago but now it's all practically in foreign to me!

That was my mistake, the lower SKU is indeed integrated only. Check this Acer out. It seems perfect.
 

Donos

Member
Question: bought a Samsung SSD for my Notebook and already installed Windows on it. Keept my old HDD like it was (didn't delete nothing because it wanted to keep it). Now i think that i'm rather going to sell the HDD but it's still full with my stuff.
Can i swap the HDD back into the labtop for erasing everything with dban nuke and afterwards put the SSD back in without any reinstalling of windows or anything?
HDD still has my Windows 7 installation.

Should be no problem or?

And damn at the windows booting speed of the SSD (Samsung 830). BF3 seems to load the maps faster too.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Question: bought a Samsung SSD for my Notebook and already installed Windows on it. Keept my old HDD like it was (didn't delete nothing because it wanted to keep it). Now i think that i'm rather going to sell the HDD but it's still full with my stuff.
Can i swap the HDD back into the labtop for erasing everything with dban nuke and afterwards put the SSD back in without any reinstalling of windows or anything?
HDD still has my Windows 7 installation.

Should be no problem or?

And damn at the windows booting speed of the SSD (Samsung 830). BF3 seems to load the maps faster too.

Yeah that won't cause any issues. Windows doesn't care when the swapping is done within the exact same hardware.
 

Robso

Member
So I'm after a laptop that will run however many leagues I decide in Football Manager 13. Was hoping to limit things to £350 as I'm only bothered for that game and to try out Hotline Miami (which I imagine won't require much).

I see a lot of the laptops in the price range I mention tend to have Intel HD Graphics. Are these chipsets any good?

Thanks.
 

Window

Member
Was thinking of getting a new laptop as my current one has terrible heating problems so...

Country where it will be purchased: Australia

Maximum budget: Not set in stone but willing to upwards of $1200

Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight): Just something which isn't too bulky.

Planned usage (what kind of games, if heavily gaming at all): A high resolution screen isn't a priority for me (with my current being 1366x768) but I'd like to be able to play next gen games with a stable framerate. Now I understand it's kind of hard to guage what kind of requirements next gen games will have but my main point is that I don't want the laptop become obsolete in a year's time.

Whatever else you find relevant, such as desired battery life, screen resolution, fan noise, etc: Long batterly life is a definite requirement (for internet browsing + office applications) and low fan noise would be desirable but not a priority. Should have no heating issues though (had enough of them with my current HP laptop).

I may be looking for something which is a bit unreasonable here (as I haven't seen any gaming laptops with a long battery life so far) but any help would be appreciated.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
So I'm after a laptop that will run however many leagues I decide in Football Manager 13. Was hoping to limit things to £350 as I'm only bothered for that game and to try out Hotline Miami (which I imagine won't require much).

I see a lot of the laptops in the price range I mention tend to have Intel HD Graphics. Are these chipsets any good?

Thanks.

Well for £350 you'll only find laptops with integrated graphics. I do believe that Intel's HD 3000 can run what you want, while I'm absolutely positive the HD 4000 will, easily.

Was thinking of getting a new laptop as my current one has terrible heating problems so...

Country where it will be purchased: Australia

Maximum budget: Not set in stone but willing to upwards of $1200

Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight): Just something which isn't too bulky.

Planned usage (what kind of games, if heavily gaming at all): A high resolution screen isn't a priority for me (with my current being 1366x768) but I'd like to be able to play next gen games with a stable framerate. Now I understand it's kind of hard to guage what kind of requirements next gen games will have but my main point is that I don't want the laptop become obsolete in a year's time.

Whatever else you find relevant, such as desired battery life, screen resolution, fan noise, etc: Long batterly life is a definite requirement (for internet browsing + office applications) and low fan noise would be desirable but not a priority. Should have no heating issues though (had enough of them with my current HP laptop).

I may be looking for something which is a bit unreasonable here (as I haven't seen any gaming laptops with a long battery life so far) but any help would be appreciated.

It is indeed impossible to gauge what will survive the next-gen consoles, so just I'm going to show you what's at the very top of your budget. The GTX 660M games at 1080p right now, so it's a safe bet that it will handle next gen just fine, at a reduced resolution.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Do you think we'll have a better idea of this once Haswell-equipped laptops with 8xxx/7xx series cards are out?

What we're waiting for, explicitly, is to find out how much of an impact the PS4 and 720's up to date hardware will have on the minimum and recommended System Requirements of PC ports. To me, it seems like we won't know the full scope of the damage until developers are actually allowed to talk about the consoles and the games they are making for them.

We're expecting Haswell in Q2, and AMD/Nvidia will probably have released the high-end mobile cards around the same time; E3 2013 is in June, and at least one of the big two will reveal a console there. So yeah, I'd expect the picture to become more clear around that time, but we may not know the full breadth of how PC gaming is affected until 2014, when games are actually being previewed, played, and released.

Buying today, the only way to come close to future proofing yourself is to go for a GTX 675MX, 680M, or 7970M. Even with waiting on the "8xxx/7xx cards", one will need to be going after the near top of the heap cards to feel comfortable. Because, next-gen or not, the GTX 760M isn't going to sniff the GTX 680M's performance.

Ultimately, the only way to truly be safe, is to buy whatever comes out after the consoles release, but most of us can't wait that long. Personally, I'll be buying a GTX 780M equipped laptop on day one, probably from MSI or Clevo.
 

Robso

Member
Well for £350 you'll only find laptops with integrated graphics. I do believe that Intel's HD 3000 can run what you want, while I'm absolutely positive the HD 4000 will, easily.

Thanks for the response. I'm thinking, should I perhaps stretch to £400, possibly £450? So it'll be future proof in regards to other FM titles and possibly some other more graphic intensive titles?
 
just pulled the trigger on a refurbished Y580 for $870 on Ebay.

-1080p
-1TB
-Bluray

No SSD but other than that exactly what I was waiting on.

Score!
 

chunk3rvd

Member
Thanks for the response. I'm thinking, should I perhaps stretch to £400, possibly £450? So it'll be future proof in regards to other FM titles and possibly some other more graphic intensive titles?

Why not try the laptop suggested for me a few posts up? Looks like it covers what you're after and has a mobile GeForce inside at a really good price. I think you can get 2% cash back at Quidco from that site as well which knocks the price down a little
 

Maximilian E.

AKA MS-Evangelist
Question..

Laptops with dual HDD (dual SSDs) in a RAID config.. are still not very common, right?
So far, i have only seen the Sony Vaio Z and that is an amazing piece of HW, very sleek and astonishingly fast.

But it´s a bit out of my reach at the moment, so I was wondering if there are other OEMS that offers laptops with SSD in RAID config?

At the moment, I have a Elitebook 8460p, that I will change the HDD to a SSD 180Gb and the DVD bay I will change as well so that I can use an extra HDD instead and try out if its possible to have dual SSD in RAID (anyone else that have done this, removing the dvd-bay, adding an extra HDD and managed to RAID both HDDs?)

Adding to this I have 16Gb of RAM..

Ohh, Im not so much after playing games but mostly working with photos (Photoshop, lightroom and such).. but then again, some games I should be able to play :)
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Thanks for the response. I'm thinking, should I perhaps stretch to £400, possibly £450? So it'll be future proof in regards to other FM titles and possibly some other more graphic intensive titles?
Why not try the laptop suggested for me a few posts up? Looks like it covers what you're after and has a mobile GeForce inside at a really good price. I think you can get 2% cash back at Quidco from that site as well which knocks the price down a little
Yes, this laptop he's referring to is a really good deal. The GT 630M is more than enough for what you want to play, and will cover you for light but serious console port gaming into the future. You can find it in the OP's GPU hierarchy.

just pulled the trigger on a refurbished Y580 for $870 on Ebay.

-1080p
-1TB
-Bluray

No SSD but other than that exactly what I was waiting on.

Score!

How much warranty coverage do you get though?

Question..

Laptops with dual HDD (dual SSDs) in a RAID config.. are still not very common, right?
So far, i have only seen the Sony Vaio Z and that is an amazing piece of HW, very sleek and astonishingly fast.

But it´s a bit out of my reach at the moment, so I was wondering if there are other OEMS that offers laptops with SSD in RAID config?

At the moment, I have a Elitebook 8460p, that I will change the HDD to a SSD 180Gb and the DVD bay I will change as well so that I can use an extra HDD instead and try out if its possible to have dual SSD in RAID (anyone else that have done this, removing the dvd-bay, adding an extra HDD and managed to RAID both HDDs?)

Adding to this I have 16Gb of RAM..

Ohh, Im not so much after playing games but mostly working with photos (Photoshop, lightroom and such).. but then again, some games I should be able to play :)

I'll need to do some research. and your budget matters a lot. Please read the OP for the requested format.

Is this a good enough gaming laptop? I just want to play the Dolpin emulator with the GC-games and Wii-games.

http://www.notebook-specs.info/note...-3-core-i7-3610-8gb-750gb-gtx660-win7-hp.html
It is good enough for the emulation you want to do, and more. Yes.


Depends on what you expect from it. Nay to that laptop color though. Super Nay.
 
How much warranty coverage do you get though?

I will be receiving a 1 year standard manufacturer warranty. I also got an automated email from the seller or some Ebay affiliate shortly after asking if I wanted a Squaretrade warranty for $140. It says it covers hard drive or motherboard failures. Shouldn't Lenova's warranty cover all of that?
 

sgjackson

Member
Ultimately, the only way to truly be safe, is to buy whatever comes out after the consoles release, but most of us can't wait that long. Personally, I'll be buying a GTX 780M equipped laptop on day one, probably from MSI or Clevo.

This is the direction I'm likely to be going next summerish as well - I'm happy with my current laptop's performance in games, but I'll probably need an upgrade for next gen ports. Opening a can of worms: Do you have a preference between MSI and Clevo in terms of build quality? I've come to quite like the rubberized finish and nice keyboard on my Alienware, and if I could get something of similar quality from one of those options I'd be happy.
 

Maximilian E.

AKA MS-Evangelist
I'll need to do some research. and your budget matters a lot. Please read the OP for the requested format.

Ok, here are the questions from the OP:

Country where it will be purchased: Sweden

Maximum budget: Don´t know yet, let say up to equivalent to $2000

Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight): preferraby 15 inch screen size but im open for 17 inch.

Planned usage (what kind of games, if heavily gaming at all). Ideally you'll point out what resolution and settings are your standard, based off of what I've laid out in the OP.
Whatever else you find relevant, such as desired battery life, screen resolution, fan noise, etc.


The main usage will be for photo editing (photoshop, lightroom and such) and web-design (Dreamweaver and such). Occassionally some gaming but never heavy games. For example, Im fond of Introversions games (Uplink, Darwinia etc).. well, so basically no gaming ;)

Ideally, I would like the resolution to be at 1920x1080, and it would be cool if it had a good battery-life but that is not so important. But the dual SSD drive in RAID 0 is a big must.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
I will be receiving a 1 year standard manufacturer warranty. I also got an automated email from the seller or some Ebay affiliate shortly after asking if I wanted a Squaretrade warranty for $140. It says it covers hard drive or motherboard failures. Shouldn't Lenova's warranty cover all of that?

Lenovo's warranty covers everything that originally shipped in the laptop, stock from the factory. The only way the mobo and HDD wouldn't, is if they're an aftermarket replacement by the seller.

You should contact them to find out.*

This is the direction I'm likely to be going next summerish as well - I'm happy with my current laptop's performance in games, but I'll probably need an upgrade for next gen ports. Opening a can of worms: Do you have a preference between MSI and Clevo in terms of build quality? I've come to quite like the rubberized finish and nice keyboard on my Alienware, and if I could get something of similar quality from one of those options I'd be happy.

Oh you have an Alienware? Which one/what specs?

As build quality goes, neither of MSI and Clevo touches AW's level of polish,at least not with their laptops' current iterations. With them having more of the "flashing lights, racing stripes" way of presentation, while Clevo is all about "plain and sleek, straightforward presentation" I'd definitely consider MSI the poor man's Alienware. But far below Alienware they are.

The rank goes AW > Clevo > MSI, just on consistency. But Clevo simply has no style. MSI can overtake them in 2013, if they take the time to fix the inconsistencies in their designs. But Clevo did refresh their mid-range laptops a few months ago, and the new designs feature a soft/rubberized chassis, so hopefully they also modernize the enthusiast-class notebook designs as well, next year.

2013 will be one of the most interesting in years, for prospective laptop buyers.

Ok, here are the questions from the OP:

Country where it will be purchased: Sweden

Maximum budget: Don´t know yet, let say up to equivalent to $2000

Max size (can be in screen inches, dimensions, weight): preferraby 15 inch screen size but im open for 17 inch.

Planned usage (what kind of games, if heavily gaming at all). Ideally you'll point out what resolution and settings are your standard, based off of what I've laid out in the OP.
Whatever else you find relevant, such as desired battery life, screen resolution, fan noise, etc.


The main usage will be for photo editing (photoshop, lightroom and such) and web-design (Dreamweaver and such). Occassionally some gaming but never heavy games. For example, Im fond of Introversions games (Uplink, Darwinia etc).. well, so basically no gaming ;)

Ideally, I would like the resolution to be at 1920x1080, and it would be cool if it had a good battery-life but that is not so important. But the dual SSD drive in RAID 0 is a big must.

Check out the new Dell Precision M6700. It has everything you're looking for, including dual SSD options and an IPS screen option. Anandtech Review.
 

Dylan

Member
So thanks to this thread I'm now $800 dollars poorer and waiting patiently for my laptop to make it from Vancouver to Ottawa. I admit it was the Olympic Rings that clinched my decision.


Since the GT640M is more powerful than the 8800GT I'm currently using in my desktop, is there any reason why I shouldn't be gaming with this new laptop plugged into my 22" LCD monitor all the time?

Basically I'm wondering if I risk burning out the 640M for some reason, like if it isn't designed to output to larger displays for extended periods of play?
 

Collete

Member
I recently bought a Lenovo y580 last week and I've been having problems since I first got it. Any video game I play, for instance Team Fortress 2, it freezes sporadically and for a good 2-3 seconds freezes the image and stutters the music/sound. I also have this problem with other games (i.e Bastion, Audiosurf, Rock of Ages, etc).

I have uninstalled McAfee completely from my computer, but I'm at a loss what to do next.

I have used an image recovery to go back to my earliest possible setting and reinstalled drivers and updated them. It has solved normal usage freezing. But unfortunately, still no solution when it comes to freezing in games.
 

sgjackson

Member
Oh you have an Alienware? Which one/what specs?

As build quality goes, neither of MSI and Clevo touches AW's level of polish,at least not with their laptops' current iterations. With them having more of the "flashing lights, racing stripes" way of presentation, while Clevo is all about "plain and sleek, straightforward presentation" I'd definitely consider MSI the poor man's Alienware. But far below Alienware they are.

The rank goes AW > Clevo > MSI, just on consistency. But Clevo simply has no style. MSI can overtake them in 2013, if they take the time to fix the inconsistencies in their designs. But Clevo did refresh their mid-range laptops a few months ago, and the new designs feature a soft/rubberized chassis, so hopefully they also modernize the enthusiast-class notebook designs as well, next year.

2013 will be one of the most interesting in years, for prospective laptop buyers.

An M14xR1 - Core i7-2630qm, 555m, 6 gigs of ram, 500 gig HD, 1600x900 screen. I was between that and a Sager 8150 with a 6990m at the time, but I went with that because I figured I'd rather have the improved battery life switchable graphics provided than the improved performance. Now that basically every enthusiast laptop has switchable graphics now I don't really need to compromise.

The thing that impressed me most about the Alienware is the keyboard - it feels better than basically any keyboard I've typed on (keeping in mind I've never used a mechanical keyboard). Whatever brand can offer a rubberized finish, a comparable backlit keyboard, and top notch performance is probably where my money will go in a few months.
 
I recently bought a Lenovo y580 last week and I've been having problems since I first got it. Any video game I play, for instance Team Fortress 2, it freezes sporadically and for a good 2-3 seconds freezes the image and stutters the music/sound. I also have this problem with other games (i.e Bastion, Audiosurf, Rock of Ages, etc).

I have uninstalled McAfee completely from my computer, but I'm at a loss what to do next.

I have used an image recovery to go back to my earliest possible setting and reinstalled drivers and updated them. It has solved normal usage freezing. But unfortunately, still no solution when it comes to freezing in games.

Hey, I have a kinda similar problem with my Dell, only it didn't happen at first (started happening after McAfee fucked me up with BSODs, heh). My CPU usage with some games is much lower than it should, resulting in laughable performance in CPU intensive games, stuttering, freezing and my GPU being wasted.

I suggest something: install Win8 on a USB HD or pendrive (beware of the slowness though) using GimageX or something like that. Start Win8 and try some of those games, see if it gets fixed. That should at least tell you if it's a software/OS problem or a hardware one. In my case it's fixed, so I'll try restoring Win7 to factory state.

You could also use throttlestop or something like that to check if the BIOS/motherboard isn't throttling your CPU via clock modulation. I don't think so, but you never know.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
So thanks to this thread I'm now $800 dollars poorer and waiting patiently for my laptop to make it from Vancouver to Ottawa. I admit it was the Olympic Rings that clinched my decision.


Since the GT640M is more powerful than the 8800GT I'm currently using in my desktop, is there any reason why I shouldn't be gaming with this new laptop plugged into my 22" LCD monitor all the time?

Basically I'm wondering if I risk burning out the 640M for some reason, like if it isn't designed to output to larger displays for extended periods of play?

Sir, laptops are not stressed anymore by external displays, than they are by running their own screens. No need to worry.

Please report back on what you think of the laptop and how it works for you.

I recently bought a Lenovo y580 last week and I've been having problems since I first got it. Any video game I play, for instance Team Fortress 2, it freezes sporadically and for a good 2-3 seconds freezes the image and stutters the music/sound. I also have this problem with other games (i.e Bastion, Audiosurf, Rock of Ages, etc).

I have uninstalled McAfee completely from my computer, but I'm at a loss what to do next.

I have used an image recovery to go back to my earliest possible setting and reinstalled drivers and updated them. It has solved normal usage freezing. But unfortunately, still no solution when it comes to freezing in games.
I've read of others having similar issues, and the only solution was to send it back for a replacement.

An M14xR1 - Core i7-2630qm, 555m, 6 gigs of ram, 500 gig HD, 1600x900 screen. I was between that and a Sager 8150 with a 6990m at the time, but I went with that because I figured I'd rather have the improved battery life switchable graphics provided than the improved performance. Now that basically every enthusiast laptop has switchable graphics now I don't really need to compromise.

The thing that impressed me most about the Alienware is the keyboard - it feels better than basically any keyboard I've typed on (keeping in mind I've never used a mechanical keyboard). Whatever brand can offer a rubberized finish, a comparable backlit keyboard, and top notch performance is probably where my money will go in a few months.
MSI has the better feeling keyboard, but some of their layout decisions tend to be strange. EDIT: both MSI and Clevo use keyboards designed by SteelSeries, but they're different and apparently the MSI one is superior.

Honestly, you may need to consider saving up a little bit extra for what will probably be the Alienware M17x R5. I'm actually leaning towards doing that myself, depending on how Clevo and MSI do or don't improve their flagship models.
 

sgjackson

Member
MSI has the better feeling keyboard, but some of their layout decisions tend to be strange. EDIT: both MSI and Clevo use keyboards designed by SteelSeries, but they're different and apparently the MSI one is superior.

Honestly, you may need to consider saving up a little bit extra for what will probably be the Alienware M17x R5. I'm actually leaning towards doing that myself, depending on how Clevo and MSI do or don't improve their flagship models.

Not what I was hoping to hear, considering I imagine an Alienware configured like I want it (even eschewing HD/RAM upgrades to do them myself) will probably be in the range of 2000+, versus 1500-1600ish for a comparable Clevo/MSI.
 

BibiMaghoo

Member
So after not having a pc for some time now, I decided to ask my partner for a new one for Christmas. Rather than buy me one, she let me build one online. I wanted a laptop for various reasons, so here is what I got.

Sony Vaio E17 - white
Intel I7 - 3632qm 2.2ghz
8gb RAM 1600mhz DDR3
500gb Hdd
17" 1920*1080 led display
Radeon 7650 2gb graphics card

What sort of performance can I expect from this? Will I be able to play modern ish games on low settings?

I only really play rts games on pc, but will this outperform my ps3 on multiplat games?

It was a really good price, and didn't really have more than 700 to reach something with more powerful cards. I was kinda hoping the better processor would pick up a little slack from the gpu, but that may just be a pipe dream lol.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Not what I was hoping to hear, considering I imagine an Alienware configured like I want it (even eschewing HD/RAM upgrades to do them myself) will probably be in the range of 2000+, versus 1500-1600ish for a comparable Clevo/MSI.

Hmm well going by my four years experience, on day zero, The Clevo w/ GTX x80M will usually be in the ~$1.8k range with zero upgrades. I'd call it a $2k even laptop on launch day.

Where AW gets extra money is that their default screen is 1600x900 and they charge freaking $150 for the basic 1080p panel; how shady is that? Then their RAM upgrade prices are beyond through the roof, but we do those ourselves right?. So they end up $300~$500 more than the Clevo. But I have to give them that a lot of that price hiking up is them trying to make up the cost of the more expensive chassis materials they use. There's good reason for AW computers feeling better built, and that isn't cheap for Dell to pull off. So they're literally asking the consumer to acknowledge that and eat the cost out of appreciation.

So after not having a pc for some time now, I decided to ask my partner for a new one for Christmas. Rather than buy me one, she let me build one online. I wanted a laptop for various reasons, so here is what I got.

Sony Vaio E17 - white
Intel I7 - 3632qm 2.2ghz
8gb RAM 1600mhz DDR3
500gb Hdd
17" 1920*1080 led display
Radeon 7650 2gb graphics card

What sort of performance can I expect from this? Will I be able to play modern ish games on low settings?

I only really play rts games on pc, but will this outperform my ps3 on multiplat games?

It was a really good price, and didn't really have more than 700 to reach something with more powerful cards. I was kinda hoping the better processor would pick up a little slack from the gpu, but that may just be a pipe dream lol.
720p gaming won't be a stretch. And yes, it will handle some games better than the consoles, just not a heavyweight like Battlefield 3. You'd run Mass Effect at 60fps though, for example.

Do me a favor: when you get it, run GPU-Z, and tell me if the 7650M has GDDR5 memory.

How much did it cost, exactly? I suppose it's too late to point you to the laptops in the OP with much stronger graphics, at the $700 range. But it's literally impossible to nab a 1080p screen at this budget, so you might prefer the trade, depending on your priorities.
 

sgjackson

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Hmm well going by my four years experience, on day zero, The Clevo w/ GTX x80M will usually be in the ~$1.8k range with zero upgrades. I'd call it a $2k even laptop on launch day.

Where AW gets extra money is that their default screen is 1600x900 and they charge freaking $150 for the basic 1080p panel; how shady is that? Then their RAM upgrade prices are beyond through the roof, but we do those ourselves right?. So they end up $300~$500 more than the Clevo. But I have to give them that a lot of that price hiking up is them trying to make up the cost of the more expensive chassis materials they use. There's good reason for AW computers feeling better built, and that isn't cheap for Dell to pull off. So they're literally asking the consumer to acknowledge that and eat the cost out of appreciation.

Any thoughts on the top ATI cards? I know their price/performance was well-regarded with the 6990/7970 - save a few hundred bucks and get 95 percent+ of the performance.
 

BibiMaghoo

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720p gaming won't be a stretch. And yes, it will handle some games better than the consoles, just not a heavyweight like Battlefield 3. You'd run Mass Effect at 60fps though, for example.

Do me a favor: when you get it, run GPU-Z, and tell me if the 7650M has GDDR5 memory.

How much did it cost, exactly? I suppose it's too late to point you to the laptops in the OP with much stronger graphics, at the $700 range. But it's literally impossible to nab a 1080p screen at this budget, so you might prefer the trade, depending on your priorities.

Cool, thanks.

It will be delivered in the next 14 days so ill run that when its here.

It was supposed to be just under 700, but I only paid 575. The screen was a free upgrade from the normal screen to 1080p with a special offer. I wanted a nice big and clear screen, and the 17" was the biggest they did.
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Any thoughts on the top ATI cards? I know their price/performance was well-regarded with the 6990/7970 - save a few hundred bucks and get 95 percent+ of the performance.

That is pretty much the deal.

When I bought my Clevo P170HM in April of 2011, the choices were the base GPU of GTX 460M, +$200 for the AMD 6970M, or +$495 for the Nvidia GTX 485M. The 6970M and 485M were dead even or trading victories in gaming benches, so I took the 6970M and haven't regretted it one bit to this day.

But AMD lost a lot of momentum with the release of the 7970M, due to the crippling issues experienced with Enduro, their latest try at switchable graphics. It was causing the GPU utilization to be unusually low which led to inconsistent and abysmal performance versus the GTX 680M. Suddenly people were questioning whether the extra money for the carefree Nvidia experience was worth it, and many jumped ship. AMD has released a couple performance drivers since October, which have brought the 7970M back where it should be in most games, but the PR damage has been done.

I have not completely given up on AMD, but I consider my money Nvidia's by default.

Cool, thanks.

It will be delivered in the next 14 days so ill run that when its here.

It was supposed to be just under 700, but I only paid 575. The screen was a free upgrade from the normal screen to 1080p with a special offer. I wanted a nice big and clear screen, and the 17" was the biggest they did.
That's a really great for $575.
 

goldenpp72

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Hello, I live in the US, have a maximum budget of probably 1500 (would really prefer not to hit this though), 17 inch screen, I don't plan to game much on it but if I did, it would probably be trying out emulators like Dolphin.. I'd like a Blu ray drive installed on it and that can be hooked to a tv, good battery life, the best screen available, and if possible speakers that sound nice. I have been procrastinating buying a new laptop and my main reason for wanting one is to actually play blu rays either on the screen or to use it on other tvs, but I don't plan on trying to crunch the mainline PC stuff like Crysis or anything either.

I guess my issue is, what kind of stuff do I need to worry about specs wise if I want to future proof a smooth running laptop? It's easy to get sucked into thinking I need 32 gigs of ram, but I want advice from someone who actually knows about what I'd need. Any advice is super appreciated though. The OP is helpful in explaining a lot of things, but I still find myself veering to the most expensive options not knowing if I really need to.
 

chunk3rvd

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Just ordered the laptop suggested for me near the top of the page and it should be with me tomorrow :D

Just wondering what my options are for a controller since I already own a PS3. I know I can connect with USB but is it easy to setup for use with PC games? Is it possible to connect it wirelessly or does it have to be wired via USB? Would I just be easier biting the bullet and buying a 360 controller for the sake of easeiness / compatability?

Also, is it easy to connect my SFIV fight stick for some MAME action? Thanks for all the help so far. Will most my impressions on the laptop once I'm setup and running!
 
Almost ready to buy a new laptop. Was hoping to buy the Y580, but now I'm seeing something about hardware problems? Graphical glitches, freezes, and a replacement being the only solution. How widespread is this problem?

Looking at the Acer Aspire V3-771G-9809 now. Would the GT 650m, be a good upgrade from the 6770M my old laptop has?
 

sgjackson

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Just ordered the laptop suggested for me near the top of the page and it should be with me tomorrow :D

Just wondering what my options are for a controller since I already own a PS3. I know I can connect with USB but is it easy to setup for use with PC games? Is it possible to connect it wirelessly or does it have to be wired via USB? Would I just be easier biting the bullet and buying a 360 controller for the sake of easeiness / compatability?

Also, is it easy to connect my SFIV fight stick for some MAME action? Thanks for all the help so far. Will most my impressions on the laptop once I'm setup and running!

You have to jump through some hoops to get a PS3 controller on PC - it's not hard if you follow instructions but it's definitely not as plug and play as a 360 controller is. It can also connect through Bluetooth. Read here for more info. http://www.motioninjoy.com/

Personally I think having a 360 controller is worth it for convenience reasons, but it would be pretty easy to try this first and see if it works for you.
 

chunk3rvd

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You have to jump through some hoops to get a PS3 controller on PC - it's not hard if you follow instructions but it's definitely not as plug and play as a 360 controller is. It can also connect through Bluetooth. Read here for more info. http://www.motioninjoy.com/

Personally I think having a 360 controller is worth it for convenience reasons, but it would be pretty easy to try this first and see if it works for you.

Thanks for the tips. Will give that a try tomorrow and see how I get on. When it comes to the 360 controller - are they easy to connect wirelessly or do I need some kind of dongle?
 

Zero148

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Almost ready to buy a new laptop. Was hoping to buy the Y580, but now I'm seeing something about hardware problems? Graphical glitches, freezes, and a replacement being the only solution. How widespread is this problem?

Looking at the Acer Aspire V3-771G-9809 now. Would the GT 650m, be a good upgrade from the 6770M my old laptop has?

I'm feeding my y580 with games at the recent steam sale, and I have no problems to play every game I tested at 1080p and 30+ fps at medium to high (depending on the game of course) settings.

My personal highlight until now is Far Cry 2 at ultra settings and 1080p with nearly an average of 40 fps.

Not glitches or freezes
 

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Hello, I live in the US, have a maximum budget of probably 1500 (would really prefer not to hit this though), 17 inch screen, I don't plan to game much on it but if I did, it would probably be trying out emulators like Dolphin.. I'd like a Blu ray drive installed on it and that can be hooked to a tv, good battery life, the best screen available, and if possible speakers that sound nice. I have been procrastinating buying a new laptop and my main reason for wanting one is to actually play blu rays either on the screen or to use it on other tvs, but I don't plan on trying to crunch the mainline PC stuff like Crysis or anything either.

I guess my issue is, what kind of stuff do I need to worry about specs wise if I want to future proof a smooth running laptop? It's easy to get sucked into thinking I need 32 gigs of ram, but I want advice from someone who actually knows about what I'd need. Any advice is super appreciated though. The OP is helpful in explaining a lot of things, but I still find myself veering to the most expensive options not knowing if I really need to.

I think the Sager NP6370 would be a good fit for you. Here is the configuration page. I'd add:

CPU: i7-3630QM
Memory: 16GB RAM (free anyway)
Hard Drive #1: depends on if you want an SSD (there are free options as well)
Hard Drive #2: see above
Optical Bay: Blu-ray
Wireless: (Free) Intel Advanced-N 6235
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium

If you only do the CPU, Blu-ray, free stuff, and OS, you're at $1224.

Almost ready to buy a new laptop. Was hoping to buy the Y580, but now I'm seeing something about hardware problems? Graphical glitches, freezes, and a replacement being the only solution. How widespread is this problem?

Looking at the Acer Aspire V3-771G-9809 now. Would the GT 650m, be a good upgrade from the 6770M my old laptop has?
It's hit or miss. Some get lemons, while many are completely unaffected.

About the Acer, I'll say decent, which to me is an upgrade of up to 40%. The Acer is only packing DDR3 video RAM, while other GT 650Ms have much faster GDDR5.

May I also ask, why you seek to replace the HP?
 
K.Jack said:
It's hit or miss. Some get lemons, while many are completely unaffected.

About the Acer, I'll say decent, which to me is an upgrade of up to 40%. The Acer is only packing DDR3 video RAM, while other GT 650Ms have much faster GDDR5.

May I also ask, why you seek to replace the HP?

Haven't really had a good experience with the DV6. Thing worked like a dream for 6 months. Then the hard drive crapped out. Replaced it worked fine for a while aside from getting slightly hot.Then wifi would not connect to my router, randomly connecting then disconnecting. Then blue screen on start up multiple times.

So yeah aside from looking for a decent upgrade, just something more reliable.

Zero148 said:
I'm feeding my y580 with games at the recent steam sale, and I have no problems to play every game I tested at 1080p and 30+ fps at medium to high (depending on the game of course) settings.

My personal highlight until now is Far Cry 2 at ultra settings and 1080p with nearly an average of 40 fps.

Not glitches or freezes
Hmm makes me feel a little better about taking the plunge. Still a little iffy about it though. My friend always jokes how I have bad luck with laptops. :(
 

Blablurn

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I recently bought a Lenovo y580 last week and I've been having problems since I first got it. Any video game I play, for instance Team Fortress 2, it freezes sporadically and for a good 2-3 seconds freezes the image and stutters the music/sound. I also have this problem with other games (i.e Bastion, Audiosurf, Rock of Ages, etc).

I have uninstalled McAfee completely from my computer, but I'm at a loss what to do next.

I have used an image recovery to go back to my earliest possible setting and reinstalled drivers and updated them. It has solved normal usage freezing. But unfortunately, still no solution when it comes to freezing in games.

sell it! the lenovo sounds awesome on paper but its ridiculous that so many machines suffer from this problem.
 

brian!

Member
can someone explain the difference between the Acer Aspire V3-571G-6407 and the Acer Aspire V3-771G-6851 (from the OT)?

Like, what am I paying $150 more for, and is it actually worth $150, and also the difference in capabilities? feel free to use easy game running comparisons

Sorry, I'm a bit illiterate about this kind of thing, but I'm finally looking to escape my laptop of woe
 

sgjackson

Member
can someone explain the difference between the Acer Aspire V3-571G-6407 and the Acer Aspire V3-771G-6851 (from the OT)?

Like, what am I paying $150 more for, and is it actually worth $150, and also the difference in capabilities? feel free to use easy game running comparisons

Sorry, I'm a bit illiterate about this kind of thing, but I'm finally looking to escape my laptop of woe

You're getting:

A 17 inch screen at 1600x900 instead of a 15.6 inch screen at 1366x768
6GB of RAM instead of 4
250GB extra HD space
A 640m instead of a 630m. Check game benchmarks here, it'll tell you pretty comprehensively what framerates people got with certain settings.
640m: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-640M.71579.0.html
630m: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-630M.63761.0.html
 
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