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The 2013 Formula 1 Pre-Season Thread |OT| Plenty of Time Left in the Silly Season
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Adam Scott Aukerman
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Myoclonic Jerk
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I wonder if McLaren would've looked that bad if Hamilton was still with them.
We've all seen how Hamilton was blistering fast last year while Button was sometimes struggling to make the top 10.
We've all seen how Hamilton was blistering fast last year while Button was sometimes struggling to make the top 10.
pants
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Lets start in OT and let the gaf gods move us once we become a community
Welcome back Jerk! It's good to have all the Kimi fans (both of us lol) together before start of season
Sleeplessnights
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Opus Angelorum
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I'm still pissed F1 has moved to Sky. I'm on Virginmedia and would need to pay £32.50 on top of the £44 I'm paying to get F1 HD.
Just watch the live ones on BBC and either watch their highlights for the ones they don't have or find 'alternative' ways to watch.
Psychotext
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You can't even get F1 in HD on VM can you?
Opus Angelorum
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You can now, it's an extra £5.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Thankfully the BBC highlights packages have been excellent, and I haven't really felt the loss of the live races at all. The only time it becomes a genuine irritation is the North American races, where the race highlights are on past midnight.
Opus Angelorum
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Who does the best coverage? I'm a die hard F1 fan, but missed most of last season because of a breakup and house move.
Yeah for early morning races like Australia I'm just planning to watch the BBC highlights at lunchtime despite having Sky Sports F1.
Opus Angelorum
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Can you not just record it? Do you not like watching all the pre-race stuff? I'm a real stickler for the detail.
I could but I prefer the BBCs coverage. If it's on around lunchtime I'll watch it over Sky anytime but it'll be interesting to see how it is without Jake.
I love the BBC pre-race stuff, Sky's is embarrassingly bad at times so I tend to avoid it.
PS didn't know you were from Northern Ireland!
Opus Angelorum
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BBC coverage is BAFTA award winning if that means much to you with regards to the quality of it.
South Belfast during the week for uni, back home to Eglinton at the weekends like all uni students haha.
Opus Angelorum
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That's some traveling! Any reason you chose to study here?
Meh everyone does it, what's an hour and a half on the bus to anyone?
Queen's was my second choice for uni, dunno why exactly I chose it, decent reputation I guess as with all uni choices.
Psychotext
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Interesting, so I take it you need the full on Sky Sport package then pay another £5?
Opus Angelorum
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Sky Sports Collection (1,2,3,4 and F1) = £25.75
Same above in HD = £32.75.
So an extra £7.
Means I'd me paying £75+ a month for TV and internet!
Psychotext
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Sadly I'm already at £100. Don't watch half the channels though, maybe I should dump the top package.
Nortern Ireland F1 GAF Unite! (Bangor here)
Was wondering that myself, there are so many ones - but ive no idea which ones are any good.
Didn't a few people try a different league last year? (Cant remeber who)
my thought/fear exactly. But Vettel seems a bit unhappy : http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105827
Psychotext
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I don't think they will be. I've seen nothing to indicate they're any faster than their main rivals right now.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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Well pretty much every analyst under the sun is saying that they think RBR are out in front, with Lotus, Ferrari, Mercedes and McLaren all much of a muchness behind them. Given that there's no reason for them to show their true pace in testing, that's all we plebs have to go on at the moment.
I saw a headline this morning or last night that Ferrari still think the tyres are quite unpredictable, so there could be some upsets. Or it could just be that Ferrari alone haven't got their heads around the tyres yet.
Psychotext
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Pretty much every analyst said the same last year, and that Red Bull had been sandbagging.
bobnowhere
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I don't think red bull will have lost any speed, there are some differences but it is an evolution. The question is whether the others have caught up or passed them. I'm not convinced Merc have fixed their reliability and wear issues, but they seem to have media savvy speed at least.
I imagine RB and McClaren will be at the front with Ferrari, Merc and Lotus just behind. The rest, who really knows! And any way, it might just turn out to be a tire crapshoot for the first few races.
Autosport posted a summary of testing. Mercedes got a lot of laps in despite those first 2 days.
EDIT: This is Barcelona data only I think. Doesn't include Jerez so my above point is invalid.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105836
EDIT: This is Barcelona data only I think. Doesn't include Jerez so my above point is invalid.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105836
Code:
Pos Driver Team Time Gap
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1m20.130s
2. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1m20.494s + 0.364s
3. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1m20.558s + 0.428s
4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 1m21.266s + 1.136s
5. Jenson Button McLaren 1m21.444s + 1.314s
6. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 1m21.541s + 1.411s
7. Adrian Sutil Force India 1m21.627s + 1.497s
8. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 1m21.658s + 1.528s
9. Paul di Resta Force India 1m21.664s + 1.534s
10. Pastor Maldonado Williams 1m22.305s + 2.175s
11. Valtteri Bottas Williams 1m22.468s + 2.338s
12. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1m22.514s + 2.384s
13. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 1m22.553s + 2.423s
14. Mark Webber Red Bull 1m22.658s + 2.528s
15. Sergio Perez McLaren 1m22.694s + 2.564s
16. Romain Grosjean Lotus 1m22.716s + 2.586s
17. Charles Pic Caterham 1m23.115s + 2.985s
18. Jules Bianchi Marussia 1m23.167s + 3.037s
19. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 1m23.223s + 3.093s
20. Davide Valsecchi Lotus 1m23.448s + 3.318s
21. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1m23.628s + 3.498s
22. Max Chilton Marussia 1m24.103s + 3.973s
23. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 1m24.235s + 4.105s
Code:
Distance by driver
Driver Team Laps Kms
1. Nico Rosberg Mercedes 251 1168
2. Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 230 1070
3. Fernando Alonso Ferrari 222 1033
4. Felipe Massa Ferrari 206 958
5. Max Chilton Marussia 202 940
6. Sergio Perez McLaren 201 935
7. Charles Pic Caterham 199 926
8. Nico Hulkenberg Sauber 197 917
9. Jenson Button McLaren 194 903
10. Esteban Gutierrez Sauber 191 889
11. Romain Grosjean Lotus 186 865
12. Giedo van der Garde Caterham 174 809
13. Jean-Eric Vergne Toro Rosso 173 805
14. Adrian Sutil Force India 171 796
15. Paul Di Resta Force India 169 786
16. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 165 768
17. Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 152 707
18. Pastor Maldonado Williams 151 702
19. Mark Webber Red Bull 149 693
20. Valtteri Bottas Williams 147 684
21. Jules Bianchi Marussia 136 633
22. Kimi Raikkonen Lotus 50 232
23. Davide Valsecchi Lotus 16 74
Code:
Distance by team
Team Laps Kms
1. Mercedes 481 2239
2. Ferrari 428 1992
3. McLaren 395 1838
4. Sauber 388 1806
5. Caterham 373 1736
6. Force India 340 1582
7. Marussia 338 1573
8. Toro Rosso 325 1512
9. Red Bull 314 1461
10. Williams 298 1387
11. Lotus 252 1173Psychotext
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Very impressive.
Colder conditions/rain ? can't remember the conditions last year.
My apologies, that data is for Barcelona only.
Including Jerez Mercedes for example did 803 laps.
Ah that makes more sense!
brotkasten
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They were fasted in testing last year and it didn't help them. Pat Fry said that the key to speed is once again understanding the tyres.
Diablo Rosso
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