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I lol'd too hard.
So is he a dick for honoring Stacy's wishes or is he a dick for breaking them? Which is it!?
nice quick-edit, :lol
Anton Sugar
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Well, considering Gwen is her own person and has a life that her father doesn't own or control, it's irrelevant. I hate shit like that in movies/comics/books.
haha you caught me before the edit! i am at work, multitasking !
he can still honor his wishes and attend a funeral.
OK, this is hilarious. Michael Papajohn, the actor plays Uncle Ben's killer in SM1, is also in ASM. Can you guess as who?
Escape Goat
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OK, this is hilarious. Michael Papajohn, the actor plays Uncle Ben's killer in SM1, is also in ASM. Can you guess as who?
His name is Papajohn?
Limo/car driver of Rathja on the bridge.OK, this is hilarious. Michael Papajohn, the actor plays Uncle Ben's killer in SM1, is also in ASM. Can you guess as who?
And now I know why I liked Uncle Ben's little speech so much. Felt familiar, turns out it's practically taken word for word from the Ult. comics;
Also, I think the OO project name for Richard's cross-species genetics project (also at Oscorp) is a nod to the label on the spider that bit Peter in the Ult. comics as well;
Also, I think the OO project name for Richard's cross-species genetics project (also at Oscorp) is a nod to the label on the spider that bit Peter in the Ult. comics as well;
ThatObviousUser
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Uncle Ben had a ponytail?
Wait...where was that page from?
Only in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics. There he (and May) were portrayed as slightly younger, and were hippies in their youth.
Varient cover for issue #160.
Hasphat'sAnts
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That little flourish in the beginning when the Marvel logo kicks in is SO FUCKING GOOD.
Being a huge Metal Gear fan, I remember how excited I was when I learned that the Marvel logo was done by Kyle Cooper, who also did the MGS2 and MGS3 intros.
Theres something so cool about that logo that excites me every time I see a Marvel movie.
zomgbbqftw
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No. "Gwen Stacy" (Random Blonde) in SM3 was worse.
Anton Sugar
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I don't know...any and all cop extras in the Nolan Batman movies come close.
"He's flying on rooftops!"
"Oh this is not good!"
"Have a nice trip, see you next fall."
"I didn't sign up for this!"
Joel Was Right
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Peter didn't need to ignore the funeral. In fact, his decision to simply ignore her and Gwen after her fathers death, something he would plenty of, made no sense. He could have simply attended the funeral and later on approach Gwen informing her of the reasons why he can no longer see her. It was insensitive on his part, the man who lost two father figures and cried about it
Nope, people on the bridge in SM1 ("You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York!") and the ones in the train in SM2 ("You want to get to him, you gotta go through me!") were worse :/
I think he just didn't want to meet her. After all, more or less he was responsible for her father's death.
Except you're talking about extras who had one line.
Crane Guy actually had a plotline in the movie :lol
I really don't see how. They were much less convoluted at least.
Neffarias_Bredd
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yea, bridge guy was so much worse...when he caught spidey I died inside
BocoDragon
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Peter would clearly have gone to the funeral by his own sense of duty.
He only did not because he was
keeping Captain Stacy's promise.
I do find it interesting that people have criticized the fact that he did not go to the funeral & tried to stay away from Gwen, and also criticized the fact that he clearly is going to get with Gwen anyway. IMO this is the consequence of the creators trying to set up the Gwen Stacy death scene in a future movie. Peter and the audience has to be warned that it's going to be a bad idea, while simultaneously getting with her anyway. That's a difficult setup to make.. I think that ending has caused a lot of confusion as to why there was not a clear decision one way or the other. They kind of had to paint it both ways.
Agreed. The New Yorkers <3 Spidey scenes were easily the worst parts of the Raimi films.
At least the crane operator's act of kindness was a direct pay-off from an earlier act of kindness on Spider-Man's part. But you want me to believe a bunch of random people would not only keep Spider-Man's identity a secret, but would put themselves in harm's way to protect him from Doctor Octopus? No Raimi. Just fucking no.
Am I stupid for actually liking that part? :lol The crane guy wasn't as outrageous upon second viewing. He saw this spider dude that saved his kid on TV and they said he can't make it to Oscorp, guy calls up all his crane buddies and gets them to align parallel together in the direction of Oscorp. It's not unbelievable that he would be the one manning the first crane, i.e. the one closet to spidey, and "catch" him/have SM fall on his crane.
However, all that doesn't matter because there was a fucking helicopter available!! He could've just swung onto the damn thing (as they showed earlier in the movie) and had them take him.
It's unfortunate that the score was at its best in such a lame scene, though. :lol
Lolwut. He had just saved their lives and that's not a direct pay-off, how?
Saving a train full of strangers from a fiery death isn't an act of kindness? I don't know why you'd struggle to believe people would protect Spider-Man as an act of gratitude after he'd just saved their lives.
As for the bridge, the Goblin was trying to waste school children, Spider-Man was trying to keep them from a watery grave, the city of New York wasn't taking that shit.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The /Filmcast also brought up an interesting point. ASM has almost no mention of the "public & news media hate Spidey" aspect, so a scene where normal people help Spiderman out is extra-meaningless.
At least in the Raimiverse, there's a kind of 'surprise' when normal people back Spidey up.
What? Helicopter spotlights are bad now?
I just dont get it.
I like the cheese in all the Spidey films. The bridge, the train, the crane. Theyre dumb little feel good moments that sometimes have a great payoff....like the awesome swinging sequence in ASM.
I just dont get it.
I like the cheese in all the Spidey films. The bridge, the train, the crane. Theyre dumb little feel good moments that sometimes have a great payoff....like the awesome swinging sequence in ASM.
Elfman's Spider-Man work was always pretty bland and forgettable to me. Someone earlier said that his work in some way defines Spider-Man...honestly I couldn't even recall the score off the top of my head. It's just a random assortment of common, unremarkable, Elfman motifs and flourishes, paling in comparison to his Batman work.
This defines Batman.
This defines Danny Elfman.
Because it came across like I just walked into a new room in Gears of War or some other game that uses that generic and lazy video game device. It was so unnatural.
You're right. But it's one thing to give him a helping hand. It's another entirely to put themselves in danger for him. Sorry, I just didn't buy it. And again, I especially didn't buy that someone wouldn't have taken a picture of Spider-Man's face. Nope. Not at all.
Mr. Sam: I might have been okay with the bridge scene more if it weren't for the line. It's just awful.
One of the very few things I love about TASM is that since they've endeared Gwen to the audience tenfold, this makes MJ's eventual appearance something both exciting and worrying. They really have to nail her casting and character for it to gel properly and since MJ>Gwen, I'm praying it works out.
The only scene I can remember is when the police have the press conference where they tie Spidey to the Lizard bridge incident. The reason this doesnt matter during the crane scene is because the whole thing is set in motion by a guy who was there during the bridge incident and had his son rescued by Spidey.
The lack of "public & news media hate Spidey" is a valid complaint though. We need to see JJJ up to his usual business in the sequel, Peter needs to work for the Bugle, and his pictures need to be used against Spidey.
rollingstart
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I like that both those situations were Spider-Man's fault. Doc Ock only tried to crash to train to capture Spider-Man. Goblin only kidnapped Mary Jane and the school children to lure out Spider-Man.
JJ was right all along--Spider-Man is a menace!
One thing I like about ASM is how
Spider-Man never saves Gwen. She's only in danger once, and she only put herself in that situation trying to help Peter. Raimi's Spider-Man has to save Mary Jane like three times in the first movie alone. At the very least Spider-Man should have had fun with it; Mary Jane acting cavalier towards Venom's kidnapping and stuff.
real talk, if Deebo played the Crane Guy, it would've been 100 times better. It helped the boat scene from TDK.
ThatObviousUser
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Flint Marko easily. No character development, doesn't learn anything, "My daughter's sick so it's OK that I do bad things," beats the snot out of Spidey then just becomes dust in the wind after having some off-screen epiphany. Oh and he also killed Uncle Ben.
Only bad guy in the original trilogy to live, ironic since he was the only one who deserved to die.
Such a shame. A whole movie with just him could have been great.
Speedymanic
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First off, amazing review. really enjoyed reading it.
On point, this is somewhat backed up by the bloody hand-print scene which felt really out of place until you mentioned this.
I guess we'll see that hand print play a part in the sequel, perhaps with someone mixing it with the Lizard formula to create the Goblin?
My problem with the different incidents is that Spidey had done a lot more public saving in Raimi's SM by the time the public was helping him. In TASM he's entered the public eye, but hadn't really done much at all yet. Other than the one bridge scene, he stopped a few muggers.
In SM2 the "don't mess" moment was played as a joke more than anything. People are more devoted to spidey than ever, but that devotion didn't matter because Doc can simply push them out of the way.
And the crane operators were throwing themselves into a ton of danger too. They were remaining in a quarantined area just because one of their friends/acquaintances was saved by this guy. And their cranes were all magically on one street.
When it comes down to it the situations are all fairly similar. The Raimi ones felt far more earned. Plus the focus on the event was better. In the previous films they were significant moments, but not humongous. In TASM that swinging scene is long and dramatic. Completely changed my reaction.
In SM2 the "don't mess" moment was played as a joke more than anything. People are more devoted to spidey than ever, but that devotion didn't matter because Doc can simply push them out of the way.
And the crane operators were throwing themselves into a ton of danger too. They were remaining in a quarantined area just because one of their friends/acquaintances was saved by this guy. And their cranes were all magically on one street.
When it comes down to it the situations are all fairly similar. The Raimi ones felt far more earned. Plus the focus on the event was better. In the previous films they were significant moments, but not humongous. In TASM that swinging scene is long and dramatic. Completely changed my reaction.
Same here. Like, literally.
I actually didn't mind the whole crane sequence as much as I did that spotlight bit. It wasn't as horrible as you're making it out to be, but specifically the way they shot it top-down style is what made it bad.
The only really cheesy parts of the movie were (SPOILERS no shit) Lizard's "I GET STRONGER EVERYDAY!" line, Peter
But none of those were any worse than the cheese in SM1/2/3, it's just that those movies were all cheese so it doesn't stick out, whereas here it's more grounded so bits like that are more glaring.
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Do you realize how foolish you sound? You don't have a problem with the crane guy helping Spidey (and, also ignoring the NYPD's request to evacuate), but the train folk standing up for Spidey is a no-go for you?
His Batman work is probably better, but his work on Spider-Man is pretty incredible. The so called 'random flourishes' are all encapsulating very specific elements of Spider-Man, from soaring freedom, responsibility, growth, sorrow, and danger. The very fast percussion is there to crate a fast tempo, mimicking the fast pace at which spider legs move.
His Spider-Man theme, and his work on the trilogy in general, is nothing short of fantastic. There's virtually nothing 'Spider-Man' about the generic and hap hazzard and frequently disconnected score in ASM.
I always enjoyed the original Spiderman movies (except the 3rd one) to a decent degree, but they never really did a great job of getting me too into the actual character of spiderman. I was never a huge fan of him, to be honest. But I really did enjoy this movie, and it effectively made me more excited about the character as a whole. I'm looking forward to more of this.
gutter_trash
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ASM apologists
Thanks.
I actually only just now read over it and realized there's a bunch of typos and whatnot (since I typed a lot of it on my phone believe it or not) :lol
And shit, that is a good point. It didn't even occur to me, but in hindsight that makes a lot of sense, as that hand print shot definitely felt like it had more attention/focus on it than needed.
I don't know why but this made me laugh. But yeah, you're right in that his entire character was such a waste.
but then again, so was SM3 
Salvor.Hardin
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So for those wondering, yes the crane scene is on youtube.
Man it's so absurdly disappointing. Forget about the cheese for a second. The way they built it up was really good. Spidey is down and out. Bleeding, injured, unsure how he's going to get from point A to point B. How could they possibly fuck up the pay off? Whose damned decision was it to throw in that nonsensical scene of Spidey's webshooters malfunctioning? And his entire webslinging scene should have been one continious shot and not broken up with scenes of dumbfuck crane guy and random police officer redirecting traffic. Seriously - what the fuck.
Man it's so absurdly disappointing. Forget about the cheese for a second. The way they built it up was really good. Spidey is down and out. Bleeding, injured, unsure how he's going to get from point A to point B. How could they possibly fuck up the pay off? Whose damned decision was it to throw in that nonsensical scene of Spidey's webshooters malfunctioning? And his entire webslinging scene should have been one continious shot and not broken up with scenes of dumbfuck crane guy and random police officer redirecting traffic. Seriously - what the fuck.
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