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Apprentice candidate Jennifer C. is hot. Very hot, indeed.
Apprentice candidate Jennifer C. is hot. Very hot, indeed.
mashoutposse
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Bradford didn't even give it up per se, you just said that he was confident enough in his performance that he felt that he would be going to the next round, immunity or not. Trump bullied him into shedding his immunity by making him stand by his comment.
If I were Bradford, I would be choking out Ivana, personally.
He didn't even put up a good fight in the board room. If he said half of the things that he said in the taxi, then he would have avoiding the owning. He kept agreeing with Trump that it was stupid and that he wouldn't do it again if given the chance... I think that once Trump saw that he regretted his impulse choice, he wanted to give him a reason to REALLY regret it.
That's business.
If I were Bradford, I would be choking out Ivana, personally.
He didn't even put up a good fight in the board room. If he said half of the things that he said in the taxi, then he would have avoiding the owning. He kept agreeing with Trump that it was stupid and that he wouldn't do it again if given the chance... I think that once Trump saw that he regretted his impulse choice, he wanted to give him a reason to REALLY regret it.
That's business.
mashoutposse
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She cute, but her absolutely blatant ass kissing is starting to get annoying. Donald sees this too I think. LOL at Trump treating her like shit... "I think Stacey should get fi--" "SHUT THE FUCK UP WHO WAS TALKING TO YOU"
Trump was on last night.. he basically owned everyone in that room. It was definitely the funniest board room i've seen. I liked bradford, but I can see why he was fired. He had a good idea, he just didn't explain himself in the board room (well, at least according to what we saw. Who knows what they edit out). What he said in the cab made sense, he should have just said something in there. Sucks for him.
He basically said that he chose to give up his being safe this week because he felt that it would be a good way to show his team that he was a team player, and someone that would stand by his teammates, not leave them out to dry. He felt that a good leader was someone who would stand by his team through sticky situations to show his support.
Trump would've had good reason to fire any of them (except Jen C.; he could fire her for being mouthy, but that's not a good reason) but while the Bradford canning made for good TV, it was probably a good long-term choice both for the show and for his hiring decision.
While The Apprentice is a game, the job Trump's hiring you for is not, so it's as much a game as it is an interview. Too many of the cannidates are coming in as "contestants" playing a game and playing the cameras. Firing Bradford sends a heavy message and serves as a huge wake-up call to the ditzy Apex corp. that should make them perform their best.
While The Apprentice is a game, the job Trump's hiring you for is not, so it's as much a game as it is an interview. Too many of the cannidates are coming in as "contestants" playing a game and playing the cameras. Firing Bradford sends a heavy message and serves as a huge wake-up call to the ditzy Apex corp. that should make them perform their best.
mashoutposse
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I agree with that. Shows that you have to be on top of your game in all aspects, at all times.
Shit, imagine that first moment when the rest of the girls saw everyone but Bradford come back in :0
Bradford's already getting lots of support... he was on Imus this morning and they all basically called Trump an idiot for letting him go. He again explained himself well to the radio guys -- if he did the same in the boardroom, he would still be there.
He said he's a trial lawyer (criminal defense and personal injury) so I doubt it's the end of his world. LOL at Imus for asking whether he knew some guy named Mr. Edwards
Shit, imagine that first moment when the rest of the girls saw everyone but Bradford come back in :0
Bradford's already getting lots of support... he was on Imus this morning and they all basically called Trump an idiot for letting him go. He again explained himself well to the radio guys -- if he did the same in the boardroom, he would still be there.
He said he's a trial lawyer (criminal defense and personal injury) so I doubt it's the end of his world. LOL at Imus for asking whether he knew some guy named Mr. Edwards
Willco said:
Fuck the HELL off of Carolyn and George. NOW.
They deserve a helluva lot of credit, and she is allowed to come around to Donald's ideas. Really, I think Carolyn likely maybe felt Ivana should go, but I have to think that they all agreed RE: Brad's decision. In the end, I like this bitchy new Carolyn.
Best. Episode. Ever. Simply put, it had some stupid moments, some idiotic decisions, some good ideas, some terrible ideas, an awesome board room, and very simply a whole lot of fun.
10x better than the medicore survivor premiere.
Also...I will now reveal my secret, inner obsession of the Apprentice. Basically...I wouldn't call it a crush, but I have a thing about Robin, the receptionist outside the board room. Like, this week...she got totally ravaged. The lighting was too bright, it made her look pasty. Last season, she sometimes even got a "reaction" shot to the fired person. One week, she looked sad. The other, a bit more sad. And she even got a "Hi" shot in the premiere...but she was left out in the cold here.
I have issues.
Ninja Scooter
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Drey1082 said:
the problem is that he said all that stuff in the cab AFTER being fired. In the boardroom, he was just nerviously laughing and agreeing with Trump about how stupid he was, instead of defending his decision. That might have saved him. I still think he should have fired the asian chick. She was horrible, and is such a whiny bitch.
Whats funny is what The Bradford was saying right before the boardroom. "Pack bags? I don't have to pack shit!"
I missed most of the show Thursday just saw the board room part. Watching it now and I have to say they are fucking hating on Stacy like a motherfucker. People were calling her paranoid and crazy last week, but it seems to me she has every right too be. She walks into the room and everyone shuts up and moves. She asks what's going on and no one answers her or gets smart with her. I honestly don't see why most people I have spoken to think Stacy is at fault.
ShadowRed said:
She started hiring Temps...WITHOUT TELLING THE REST OF THE TEAM.
And then, they decide to get rid of her, and then she walks in. Of course they're going to be quiet. The issue this week wasn't the paranoia, but instead the inability for her to consult her team on her actions.
Memles said:
Well why the fuck did they not bring that up in the board room? No one mentioned it. All they were bitching about was that she gave them the wrong position, which was half a block off and tried to put their faliure on that. It's obvious to me that there are "other" things behind the hate on they have toward Stacie. They did the same thing last week, yet Stacie is in the wrong for being paranoid, BS.
PS. I just saw the part were Stacie claims Ivan OKed the temps, so now what? Oh I know, "Stacie is a lying bitch." I'm sure that will be your comeback. Even though it's apparent that Ivana and everyone else is so desperate to get rid of Stacie that lying wouldn't be above them.
Also now that I've seen the entire show I now see the light and think Trump is an ass for firing Brandford. Brandford was the one guy that did his job perfect. If my boss tells me to do a job and I complete it below budget, ahead of schedule and to specification, I'll have no problem saying to my boss, "Hey I'll quit if this job doesn't meet the quality checks." He's the kind of guy you want working for you rather than a bunch of pussies backstabbers who are going to do everything to dodge responsiblity for fucking up.
Mega Man's Electric Sheep
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Yeah, Ivana admitted that she assigned Stacie to the temp hiring to keep her busy so she wouldn't make mistakes. To then complain about it is insane. I get the feeling that we are missing a lot of information about this Stacie thing. There is not enough footage to support the crazy hate they have for her (the 8 ball thing seemed to be missing a lot of clarifying footage) and there is obviously missing footage about why she is paranoid (besides the meetings behind her back. Hey geniouses, this isn't Survivor. Trump fires whoever he wants. Wait, guess you learned that! )
Based on the extra footage, I stand by my opinion that Trump's firing of Bradford was based at least in part on making good television (i.e. drama). After everyone left, he said to Caroline "Did you see Ivana's face when she found out she wasn't fired? She looked like she was going to fall out of her chair! She thought she was gone. It doesn't get any better than this."
Also based on the extra footage: Bradford is a moron. Didn't defend himself and giggled a lot. I still disagree with the firing, but man, Bradford sure didn't help his case with his shoddy boardroom behaviour.
)Based on the extra footage, I stand by my opinion that Trump's firing of Bradford was based at least in part on making good television (i.e. drama). After everyone left, he said to Caroline "Did you see Ivana's face when she found out she wasn't fired? She looked like she was going to fall out of her chair! She thought she was gone. It doesn't get any better than this."
Also based on the extra footage: Bradford is a moron. Didn't defend himself and giggled a lot. I still disagree with the firing, but man, Bradford sure didn't help his case with his shoddy boardroom behaviour.
andthebeatgoeson
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What Brad did was slightly stupid but it was a play to gain his team's support. I was waiting for Brad to rub his immune status in everybody's face but he went in the opposite direction to try and make friends. Oh well, the ending was a complete ploy for ratings.
I don't get the hate on Stacie. It's been way overblown. Yeah, she flipped out and seems off but they are trying to incite her. I just wish that the next crazy chick happens to be other than black. WTF?
I don't get the hate on Stacie. It's been way overblown. Yeah, she flipped out and seems off but they are trying to incite her. I just wish that the next crazy chick happens to be other than black. WTF?
Mega Man's Electric Sheep said:Yeah, Ivana admitted that she assigned Stacie to the temp hiring to keep her busy so she wouldn't make mistakes. To then complain about it is insane. I get the feeling that we are missing a lot of information about this Stacie thing. There is not enough footage to support the crazy hate they have for her (the 8 ball thing seemed to be missing a lot of clarifying footage) and there is obviously missing footage about why she is paranoid (besides the meetings behind her back. Hey geniouses, this isn't Survivor. Trump fires whoever he wants. Wait, guess you learned that!
Based on the extra footage, I stand by my opinion that Trump's firing of Bradford was based at least in part on making good television (i.e. drama). After everyone left, he said to Caroline "Did you see Ivana's face when she found out she wasn't fired? She looked like she was going to fall out of her chair! She thought she was gone. It doesn't get any better than this."
Also based on the extra footage: Bradford is a moron. Didn't defend himself and giggled a lot. I still disagree with the firing, but man, Bradford sure didn't help his case with his shoddy boardroom behaviour.
Why the fuck should he have said anything, he did his job to perfection in in comparasion to everyone else. Again my boss calls me and the office fuck up into his office and asks what went wrong. I shouldn't have to say it's not my fault I did a good job. Everyone else has already stated that. He and the other chicks should have said anything unless Ivana starts pointing the finger that them, which wasn't likely because she had a hate on for Stacie. It should have basicly came down to Stacie and Ivana chunking shit at one an other. Personally I think Ivana should have been in the one taking the ride. In no way do you fire your star empolyee because he stands by the great job he's done and reward the other fuck ups by letting them keep their jobs.
Don't think I'm hatin' on Stacie. But don't go throwing the racism card out there. Although it was a banner night for it; Stacie is picked on, and then Rory is shunned when he tried to lead the group on Survivor.
The problem was that, with Stacie, all of the footage seemed to indicate that the other girls wanted her gone. It's all editing; but I also can't be sitting there every time something comes up, and not see any shred of truth. If we do that, the entire thing is nothing but a pessimistic hour of television. It's nothing but "Oh, that didn't happen like that, it's just editing". I can't sit there and do that. I know it happens, but one can't sit there taking nothing at face value.
The problem with Stacie is that it just seems like the group doesn't like her, and she doesn't like the group. Whether or not you believe racism is involved, in a team situation that is enough reason to get rid of someone.
I think the issue with Bradford, btw, was truly an instance of Trump going with his personal feeling. The issue was not a matter of how strong he was (In fact, based on his performance as a leader on the first task he sucked ass) but instead an issue of a really stupid mistake. In the boardroom, where it is critical not to make a mistake...he made a mistake. Ivana did a poor job at leading, but the board room decides it all. Bradford did a fine job on the task, and there is no doubting his abilities in that manner...but there is no way one can say there was no reason for firing him. He was boasting, really, Trump took him to his word, and thus things happened. And he was fired. I like to think the best of the Producers, and assume they didn't control this...but who knows.
The problem was that, with Stacie, all of the footage seemed to indicate that the other girls wanted her gone. It's all editing; but I also can't be sitting there every time something comes up, and not see any shred of truth. If we do that, the entire thing is nothing but a pessimistic hour of television. It's nothing but "Oh, that didn't happen like that, it's just editing". I can't sit there and do that. I know it happens, but one can't sit there taking nothing at face value.
The problem with Stacie is that it just seems like the group doesn't like her, and she doesn't like the group. Whether or not you believe racism is involved, in a team situation that is enough reason to get rid of someone.
I think the issue with Bradford, btw, was truly an instance of Trump going with his personal feeling. The issue was not a matter of how strong he was (In fact, based on his performance as a leader on the first task he sucked ass) but instead an issue of a really stupid mistake. In the boardroom, where it is critical not to make a mistake...he made a mistake. Ivana did a poor job at leading, but the board room decides it all. Bradford did a fine job on the task, and there is no doubting his abilities in that manner...but there is no way one can say there was no reason for firing him. He was boasting, really, Trump took him to his word, and thus things happened. And he was fired. I like to think the best of the Producers, and assume they didn't control this...but who knows.
eh fuck this show.... after the last minute real estate deal last year... I was very suspicious, but decided to see the show through to the end. I just dont even feel like watching the rest of it after this. Stupid ass trump, no wonder his casinos and hotels are failing... im done with this crap... ill watch some fox show about animals vs humans instead.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
AAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Does anybody have a clip of Stacie J.'s mental act? I missed the first episode.
BigJonsson
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Wow, she was just called crazy on internation television lol
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It was odd, but the gals blew it way outta proportion by claiming to be "afraid" or speculating whether she was "clinical". I'm sure that was gamesmanship, though, they knew exactly what they were doing pushing Trump to drop her. Unfair for her, but ultimately better for the team... and worse. Now they have no more excuses.
FUCK this show man that was so much BS. "Mr. Trump I'm afraid of the big bad black woman. She was shaking a toy 8 ball and I was afraid she would kill me and rape my virginal white ass. Please please fire her. "
Fucking lame and totaly smacks of racism. Yeah I know people will bitch and moan about me calling it as it is, but that's what it was.
Fucking lame and totaly smacks of racism. Yeah I know people will bitch and moan about me calling it as it is, but that's what it was.
Luscious LeftFoot
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I'm assuming the scene in the first task must have been heavily edited from what was shown, b/c what they did show, wasn't as bad as the girls were describing.
So scared she had to hide in a corner? WTF?!
So scared she had to hide in a corner? WTF?!
Luscious LeftFoot said:
Exactly I mean if you were that afraid of someone you wouldn't stay in the same room with them, you'd get up and get a producer or someone in authority and say, "Hey man there is a crazy person in there I'm not going anywhere near this person." All that shit was so much BS.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
ShadowRed said:
At first, I wanted to think nothing of it...but all you do is play the race card. Can't you just shut the fuck up already? If the show was that racist Kwame wouldn't have made it that far in the 1st season. Seriously.
Shut.
The fuck.
Up.
Edit: And let's be clear, I think they blew it out of proportion too. In fact, this whole season seems to be one ball of a exaggeration so far.
mashoutposse
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Damn, this firing pissed me off. I hate the other 12-year old looking Stacy; in fact, I hate all of Apex. Especially the lying idiot Ivana. "I had to go hide in a corner?"
...thefuckouttahere.
...thefuckouttahere.
aparisi2274
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Yeah tonights firing was dumb!!!
Fine they wanted Staci J to go, and they ganged up on her, but to say she is crazy? I would like to see when they have to do a task that is so huge and one of them stresses out and acts crazy.
I agree that all those idiot girls are so childish and immature. I really think Maria should have gone home tonight, because she did fuck up the budget.
I wonder what the extra 15 minutes in the boardroom will be when they reshow it on Saturday on CNBC or MSNBC, whichever one it is.
Fine they wanted Staci J to go, and they ganged up on her, but to say she is crazy? I would like to see when they have to do a task that is so huge and one of them stresses out and acts crazy.
I agree that all those idiot girls are so childish and immature. I really think Maria should have gone home tonight, because she did fuck up the budget.
I wonder what the extra 15 minutes in the boardroom will be when they reshow it on Saturday on CNBC or MSNBC, whichever one it is.
Man, the entire women's team is terrible. If I was The Donald I would have already decided by now that NONE of them could run one of my companies. It takes very little for them to lose their professionalism and get... well... catty.
So does anyone have any favorites yet? I wish Raj got more airtime... the dude is hilarious. Kevin seems like a good level-headed guy too, as well as the youngest guy (can't seem to remember his name).
So does anyone have any favorites yet? I wish Raj got more airtime... the dude is hilarious. Kevin seems like a good level-headed guy too, as well as the youngest guy (can't seem to remember his name).
LOL that was sad. They were all "sacred" of the 110lb Stacey J.
I'm not sure if it's best described as racism, but you kind of get the impression that the black chick has to stay in a little quiet box and anything out of the ordinary sets her apart. She can't be individualistic or outspoken at all, but must fit into a certain quiet mold, kind of like Kwame did last season.
Stacey did part (in the limo) the show quite gracefully and you got the feeling that she was "the better (wo)man" so to speak.
AlphaSnake said:
I'm not sure if it's best described as racism, but you kind of get the impression that the black chick has to stay in a little quiet box and anything out of the ordinary sets her apart. She can't be individualistic or outspoken at all, but must fit into a certain quiet mold, kind of like Kwame did last season.
Stacey did part (in the limo) the show quite gracefully and you got the feeling that she was "the better (wo)man" so to speak.
Guys guys guys, you're getting way too worked up over this and their overreacting.
Dont let the Trump and teh hot business type ladies fool you, its still a lame ass Reality TV show. I know its hard to tell because its missing the angsty sex craving 20 something boozers, homosexual nudists, and lesbian feminists. DONT BE FOOLED. ITS STILL REALITY TV. ITS FAKE
Dont let the Trump and teh hot business type ladies fool you, its still a lame ass Reality TV show. I know its hard to tell because its missing the angsty sex craving 20 something boozers, homosexual nudists, and lesbian feminists. DONT BE FOOLED. ITS STILL REALITY TV. ITS FAKE
Joe said:
The challenge was to create the most buzz over Crest's new toothpaste flavor. Mosaic had drawings for cash prizes on the street, Apex used a good portion of their budget to hire Piazza to come and brush his teeth in front of a crowd and sign autographs.
The CEOs who were judging agreed that Apex did slightly better in the challenge, but chose Mosaic since Apex went $5,000 over budget (Maria apparently didn't communicate the cost correctly with one of the companies that worked with her team... but she refused to admit this of course).
When it came to the boardroom all the girls on the Apex team were pointing fingers at eachother over the over-budget issue, but eventually when The Donald asked about why they all dislike Stacey they all starting going on and on about how they thought she was crazy. They went as far as to say they were honestly scared of her...
The Donald said that since it was unanimous he didn't have much choice but to fire Stacey.As I said above, I don't think any member of Apex deserves to win... they're all catty and immature. Gooooo Mosaic!
Crazymoogle
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Joe said:
1. Team Guys and Team Girls were given 50 grand each to pull of a marketing buzz campaign for vanilla toothpaste.
2. Team Guys tries to use an insurance company for a 1 in 200 chance at a million dollars (ie, raffle, and the winner has those odds), but that fell through so they give away 3 5K prizes instead.
2a. Team Girls discusses problems, including Stacie's incident, and seem to tentatively decide to forget it.
3. Team Girls talks to their connections to get a celebrity to stir up the hornets nest. Their connection offers LL Cool J, and they decline. Then he says Mike Piazza and they accept. But Mike will only show up for the half hour if he gets 20 grand.
4. Team Girls goes 5k over budget on the day and loses.
5. Team Girls, when down to the 3 people in the board room, drags the Stacie freak out issue into the board room. In the typical board room rage, Stacie's incident is pretty much blown out of proportion, which spooks Trump.
6. Trump demands that all of Team Girls returns to the boardroom.
7. Everyone bags on Stacie, with progressively funnier answers.
8. Stacie gets the boot.
I think the race comments are bullshit; anybody who freaked like that would have been tagged. Look at Raj; as soon as he does something really, uncomfortably out of line, he's done. For sheer entertainment value I thought the rest of the team did a hilarious job of selling Stacie as a risk though. The comments were really A++
Joe said:
No prob!
You should have seen the things they were saying about her and the "8-ball incident" though, like some people mentioned above.
"I was so scared I hid in the corner" and
"I don't think I have ever been so nervous in my entire life."
Freaking ridiculous =/
Edit: I also don't think there was any racism present, I just think those girls are all bitches.
They've already been turning on eachother like crazy.
mashoutposse
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I hope that Stacy J becomes a big success in her other endeavors and shows up the rest of them...
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