Darth Pinche
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Cobb has started doing AP tuning testing for 2012 STIs:
Damn that is a big jump in torque!
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Damn that is a big jump in torque!
NihonTiger90
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Gonna buy a Scibaryota FRZ-86 as long as the price is reasonable here in the states and it doesn't get like 10 miles per gallon or something, lol.
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Tyler; it fits what I need and it's better than my 1999 Grand Prix. Which was a step up from the death trap I drove before then.
I'm pretty much in the same boat as Tyler; it fits what I need and it's better than my 1999 Grand Prix. Which was a step up from the death trap I drove before then.
which silvia? s15? 'cos the 13 and 14 have been around for years.
i have a very vague goal of getting a jzx100, aiming for a cresta.
I'm sure he's referring the 15 year rule. Cars 15 years old or older by date of manufacture can be imported for use in Canada. I see older skylines, rx-7s, early evos, etc around here pretty frequently.
Since he said 2 more years, he has to be referring the s15, which would be possible to import starting in 2014.
Mattlikewhoa
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EDIT: Badly beaten!
Oh that sounds like fun. I have road racing friends who drive to the US to hit up events. I've been a few times and it's a good time, but I like to slide more then anything else.
You mentioned a Miata, my friend has a fairly modified one and it's a BLAST to drive. It's like a super quick go kart on the track. So tight and nimble around corners. I meant to get out to track more with him, but schedules always clashed during the summer. I only got to make it out to the track with him a hand full of times.
Yeah an S15 Silvia. They were never sold in North America and here in Canada, you can legally import one for use after 15 years (It used to be 10). I used to have a S14 Zenki but I long since sold it.
I still have the driving bug so I've been collecting parts ever since I sold my car. I've got wayyy more things than I'd care to admit HAHA. The yen is putting a damper on things as of late but I've still got my eyes on a few things...
Oh that sounds like fun. I have road racing friends who drive to the US to hit up events. I've been a few times and it's a good time, but I like to slide more then anything else.
You mentioned a Miata, my friend has a fairly modified one and it's a BLAST to drive. It's like a super quick go kart on the track. So tight and nimble around corners. I meant to get out to track more with him, but schedules always clashed during the summer. I only got to make it out to the track with him a hand full of times.
Yeah an S15 Silvia. They were never sold in North America and here in Canada, you can legally import one for use after 15 years (It used to be 10). I used to have a S14 Zenki but I long since sold it.
I still have the driving bug so I've been collecting parts ever since I sold my car. I've got wayyy more things than I'd care to admit HAHA. The yen is putting a damper on things as of late but I've still got my eyes on a few things...
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
The folks at Allpar have a fresh page up with all the info they know on the new Dart.
http://www.dart-mouth.com/
http://www.dart-mouth.com/
i know all about canada's 15 year import rule. friend got an r32 gt-r that way.
hence my comment about wanting the cresta. 2.5L straight 6 turbo. rear drive. 4 doors. from toyota, so you can just bag on it and not care. some inspiration
hence my comment about wanting the cresta. 2.5L straight 6 turbo. rear drive. 4 doors. from toyota, so you can just bag on it and not care. some inspiration
Not only that, but look how smooth that curve is and where the torque peaks with a tune versus the stock ECU.
Basically the same car as the Cressida in the USA, I use to have an older one and was planning on dropping a 1JZ into it but unfortunately I gave up on it.
The 2.5 1JZ is a freaking amazing engine, truly a perfect little brother/precursor to the 2JZ and it's from an age when Toyota made awesome sport cars/sedans.
Although I think I'm crazy now because I want to buy an old Hong Kong Toyota Crown taxi and just drive it around as it is.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Evo magazine has some first drives up of the BRZ and GT-86.
Shocker: They like them very much.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/276025/driven_subaru_brz.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/276016/driven_toyota_gt_86.html
Shocker: They like them very much.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/276025/driven_subaru_brz.html
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/276016/driven_toyota_gt_86.html
Evo GT 86 Review said:
Nice reviews. That quote is directly applicable to this thread. haha
so true lol
that quote gave me goosebumps thinking back about how well the 86 i knew handled.
Seems to be conflicting information about the actual acceleration times. 0-60 anywhere from around 6 - 7 seconds based on the source.
Mattlikewhoa
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I have a friend in Japan who has a JZX100 *Chaser* and I'd LOVE to have one (well I could import one) but the maintenance and parts cost is out of this world expensive! I'd love to drift a 4 door with a engine that loves to be driven hard.
Parts for a Silvia are already expensive as is. For a JZX100 it's triple the cost in some circumstances (Example, I bought a Tomei Turbo manifold for about $500 US, a Tomei manifold for a JZX100 is $1800 CND).
I wish I had the money to build one proper (like my friend) but it's a bit too much for me right now. If I wanted to drop that type of cash, I'd buy a GTR34 (which I plan to do).
You're not crazy, that's boss status right there ^_^
i think you're missing the point. hes not talking about driving this car fast at all. if you want that, get a supra.
a car purely built for speed around a windy road down a mountain is completely different from a car designed for those roads.
ive seen videos of a corolla beating a skyline, simply because the corolla handled better. of course on a straight track, the skyline would woop ass.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Well yeah, but how often do you get to really drive a fast car fast?
kinda what i figured, since there's absolutely no support for that car outside jp-land. that's why it's a vague vague goal. but ya, it's straight up boss when you do it right.
guess i'll jump on the 86 bandwagon in the meantime.
Viperbah
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I get what your saying, it's easier to push a slower well balanced car faster in some instances, but on average tracks your not going to convince me this car is more fun to drive than a GTR/supra/whatever.
Really not often, I take trips to VIR occasionally but I haven't in a while. Ive only taken my current car once. I get your point thou...driving fast with my car on the street is stupid and reckless, a GT 86 on the other hand would be much more practical.
33-Hit-Combo
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He's probably referring to acceleration, which could be very regular. Though in most places, legally, the fun would be over in a second or two.
Liquidsnake
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Same here. Although I am downgrading from a 370z.
I just need to be more responsible financially.AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Same here. Although I am downgrading from a 370z.
If you're already making payments on a car like the 370Z, there's no sense in replacing it with a car that'll be worth at most a few thousand less. Especially since Zs depreciate like crap, so you may actually be upside down on a trade and be paying the same or more. Trading in a car with a similar value makes no sense in this situation.
I would say good handling is used just as much as good acceleration, at least as far as a daily driver goes. So just to be clear, i'm not saying your opinion is wrong. Different people like different things.
I like control, you like speed. To have the best of both worlds, I don't think you could find much better than an aerial atom. Though not really a daily driver type car.
anyways, i found some videos that illustrate my point.
350z vs AE86
AE86 vs Skyline
Really depends on how long he keeps it.
I have been looking into these forums, but it really does seem like guys wanted to tune up their GTIs. I'm not really interested in increasing performance past the exhaust on it (which was already on when I bought it), and I'm happy with the visual modifications made. I just want it to not ride like shit.
Alright, I think this is what I'll plan on doing. I'll talk to my Dad about it, I'll post in here if any more questions come up from either of us. Thanks again for the help!
Slayer-33
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Saw it a few days back, but figured I was late to post it in here (guess not). But yeah, it's hot.
Viperbah
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Good points and totally agree.
I'm not hating on the gt 86, I respect Toyota for what their doing with it, it's just not my preference.
I guess that's why I always choose barbarian as a starting class in RPGs, haha
LOL, sports car. Is this car really consider a "sports car". When I think of sports car, I think of Corvette's, Ferrari's and Lamborghini's. Basically, any two-seater, with great handling and POWER.
BoobPhysics101
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Kind of a narrow-sighted and ultimately wrong definition of a sports car. Sports cars don't need huge amounts of power. That'd be like saying the Miata isn't a sports car, or classic '60's roadsters, or the S2000, etc.
In fact, your pre-requisite of 'power' disqualifies itself simply because you don't need huge amounts of power to be fast on a track.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Umm... You may be in the wrong thread.
Wikipedia has this definition
The GT-86 is a sports compact just like the Celica.
As for the exotics I mentioned, I'm just telling you guys the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions "sports car" to me. Those cars are sports cars but in a class of their own (super-high performance vehicles). The S2000, Miata, 370Z, Camaro, Mustang and Genesis are all a tier bellow those monsters. But all are considered sports cars.
The GT-86 is a sports compact just like the Celica.
As for the exotics I mentioned, I'm just telling you guys the first thing that comes to mind when someone mentions "sports car" to me. Those cars are sports cars but in a class of their own (super-high performance vehicles). The S2000, Miata, 370Z, Camaro, Mustang and Genesis are all a tier bellow those monsters. But all are considered sports cars.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
I've always wanted to build a project car.
And now I have the chance.
As much as I wish I could do crazy engine swaps and build grey-market supercars, I need to be realistic about the budget I have. I do have a single friend in the burbs who is letting me use his extra garage space. And as of this weekend, I will be the proud owner of a 1985 Corolla GT-S.
I'm going to deliver some tofu with a quickness.
edit: I need a nice 4AG engine.
And now I have the chance.
As much as I wish I could do crazy engine swaps and build grey-market supercars, I need to be realistic about the budget I have. I do have a single friend in the burbs who is letting me use his extra garage space. And as of this weekend, I will be the proud owner of a 1985 Corolla GT-S.
I'm going to deliver some tofu with a quickness.
edit: I need a nice 4AG engine.
33-Hit-Combo
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You're quoting wiki? The quote even says that sports compact falls under modifications of production vehicles. The BRZ/GT86 is a brand new design. I'm not laying down my own interpretations here, just poking holes.
Is there even legislation that defines a sports car? If not then the term is subjective so there's no point cracking this 'joke'.
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
LS1
I was contemplating that, but I was going to go the drop in route and not get too Frankenstein. I'd like to keep it as light as possible.
Viperbah
Member
LS1s are fairly light, I know nothing about the swap on an 85 GT-S thou. I have helped put them into a miata and an RX-7.
What are your goals with the car?
ChiTownBuffalo
Either I made up lies about the Boston Bomber or I fell for someone else's crap. Either way, I have absolutely no credibility and you should never pay any attention to anything I say, no matter what the context. Perm me if I claim to be an insider
A well rounded vehicle with drift-ability. Just something fun to drive around in and maybe autocross in. Put deep dish rims on.
Giant Robot
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"high performance" can mean anything from high horsepower, good handling, good gearing, good tires, good braking, etc. What good is high horsepower if you can't control or handle it? 700hp on a track doesn't automatically win.
Mattlikewhoa
Member
Man they're throwing LSx engines into everything these days...
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I like the LSx swap into a Datsun 240Z. It's crazy, and it's RWD, so it'll work.
That looks terrible inside and out. Will have to see more pics of it in higher res to know for sure though.
A well rounded vehicle with drift-ability. Just something fun to drive around in and maybe autocross in. Put deep dish rims on.
YES!
Eh, I think it's alright, for a cheap compact. Not huge on the front fascia, though.
Liquidsnake
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Giant Robot
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yea i know, but you gotta admit its pretty damn efficient and reliable. IMO it just kills the soul of a car, i.e. E30 M3 or an FD RX-7.
Lot of 944 n/a LS1 swaps too. Damn shame.
A well rounded vehicle with drift-ability. Just something fun to drive around in and maybe autocross in. Put deep dish rims on.
Except too bad they are ridiculously expensive for what it is.
I haven't looked recently but the stupid Initial D craze got prices up to 3-5K for one a few years ago. For a 20 year old body? Yeah right.
At the time it made much more sense to buy a used 240SX instead, in fact I remember seeing plenty of them being sold with SR20's already installed for $6-8K which made much more sense than an AE86 since with an SR20 it has enough power for drifting and potential for more if you mod the engine or upgrade turbo.
I can feel the pain :-(
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