BoobPhysics101
Banned
Good Christ, did you invest into this car or something? I apologize for not seeing your link, oh purveyor of all things GT86. Either you stealth edited your post with the URL or my Dell's washed out screen didn't make it the least bit apparent there was a link, like my iMac does. I'm on my hands and knees apologizing.
But let me stop beating around the fucking bush with you, this back and forth is getting annoying. I'm going to go off on a tangent here, something wildly outside of the whole supercharger issue. Your little bitchy lash out up there is you trying to defend the GT86, it is and I get it. You're anticipating it. And you can defend the absolute piss out of this car, good for you. But you know what? I have seen shit like this in the media time and time again. An underpowered car is released and the critics praise it for its simplicity and handling prowess (RX8, S2000, Porsche Cayman/Boxster 2.7L). Fast forward a few short years later, those same publications shitted on those cars for being long in the tooth, underpowered, and underwhelming - and cried tears of joy when they saw replacements or even the most modest of updates (the RX8 went through tons of revisions during its time). Do you know why there isn't much demand for NA Supras, Mitsubishi 3000GTs, and 300ZXs? Because they were fucking slow and no one gives a shit about them today, just like no one will give a shit about the GT86 or BRZ in its NA form years from now. People buy NA versions of the above cars because they can't find the proper turbo models and hope to one day have enough money to convert them from NA to FI.
BTW: No offense intended to owners of the above cars.
When the new Camaro came out, magazines went bananas about it. That it performed great, that both the V6 and V8 motors are fantastic, that it handled superbly, and some even had the gall to call its interior high quality and appealing? The fuck? Again, today those same publications lambaste the Camaro, in some cases placing it dead last against its rivals, claiming its driving dynamics are poor and the interior atrocious. My, how a tune can change when you *don't* have PR people breathing down your back.
The 350Z was heralded by damn near everyone when it came out, and up until 2006 people loved its motor. But the minute it received an overhaul in 2007 with an all new motor, those same publications were very quick to shit on the original car's motor despite loving it and singing its praises just a short time ago, up until 2005 when the VQ35DE received a minor workover itself.
And there's a damn fine reason for that, and having been a journalist for 10 years, being invited to all of these early events, being flown out, all expenses paid, the perks, the fun, and all of that bullshit...it all comes at a price. Being positive. Being positive about the reason why a company just spent thousands of dollars on your ass and your big mouth. Because they fucking bought you. They didn't want to buy ad space in your publication which would've cost 5-10 times more, no they wanted to buy you. You have clout and cred with your readers - meanwhile ads do not.
And when I went to a press event, a gaming one actually, and spoke the truth about every product Eidos had to offer...they cut me. Meanwhile other pubs were hailing shit like 25 to Life as the next great thing. That was nearly 7 years ago. I never went to another paid function like this (not for work at least, just tag alongs), and kept it to only the local stuff in NYC. I declined all invites to San Francisco, Tokyo, Playboy mansion, Los Angeles, Vegas, Miami, and even some haunted house in bumblefuck for a Fatal Frame press event. I denied it all.
Why? Because mass media gatherings for product launches like this generate mostly positive buzz. And if you don't say nice things? You get the PR snip - you're off the lists, no more invites, limited access to review fleets, and limited access to company executives...you're no longer given two shits about. The publications need to court the sack of the manufacturer, because without them they can't exist - it's the simple nature of the beast.
So when I see all of this talk about the GT86/BRZ - to me it is all hyperbole until I drive the thing myself. I have the experience, knowledge and foresight to simply know what to expect out of a product like this: a slow car, with an underwhelming interior, decent handling, for way more money than it's worth. I have seen the videos, the way it accelerates, the way it moves, handles, and how it looks - there's already enough out there to tell me this thing is not even worth it without a significant boost in power. But I will drive one as soon as I get the chance to...because I actually love being surprised by cars I had no faith in. Thus far, it's only happened once and that was a new Dodge Challenger SRT8 392.
Soo...uhhh....yeah. Shut up.
I hate to say it, but: OWNED! Dave, you got owned. Hard. Alpha didn't bullshit around with that one.
And you know what, 25 To Life was SHIT INDEED.