shinshoryuken
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If it actually weight less than 3000lbs it would not be that bad at all.
Just the price will be a factor. Near 30k will suck because it will be competing with the 370z..
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If it actually weight less than 3000lbs it would not be that bad at all.
Just the price will be a factor. Near 30k will suck because it will be competing with the 370z..
33-Hit-Combo
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15% loss is excellent isn't it?
Also weight ranges from 1,190kg to 1,230kg.
How much does an MX-5 2.0l hardtop start from in US btw?
looking at leasing an S4 with the sport diff for $950. also cross shopping a loaded the g37x sport for $770 and a loaded tl sh-awd for $500. i walk to work, and would only use the car for pleasure. a lot can be done with an extra $450 per month. looks are irrelevant as all three cars look great imo. leaning towards the tl... thoughts?
Uh, hello? Why haven't I received a PM first?
When you put it that way the financial sense would say the TL but I don't know your income or how you are financially. The investor in me says that if you must lease go with the cheapest and invest the extra $450 a month but the enthusiasts in me says go for the S4.
I guess what I would like to know is, if you aren't comfortable giving out hard numbers, how much of an impact does $950 per month do to you?
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
My bad, dawg. PM sent. :|
AlphaSnake
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Dude...are you sure that's leases? Where do you live? Those don't look like US$ quotes. A G37X lease with absolutely ZERO down, is in the $370 region with Navigation. $390-400 fully loaded with the Sport.
An Audi S4 is about $700 loaded with nothing out of pocket. And a fully loaded SH-AWD TL rings up to about $500, as you mentioned. But the other two quotes are whacky.
Thanks for the link!
This thread needs more Cadillac.
I love the details on the back. Gives it a 3D feel you don't see in a lot of cars. Lots of wedges and angles and creases. I love that.
What do you think of the ATS?
http://www.cadillac.com/ats-compact-car.html
I love the details on the back. Gives it a 3D feel you don't see in a lot of cars. Lots of wedges and angles and creases. I love that.
What do you think of the ATS?
http://www.cadillac.com/ats-compact-car.html
I still think the CTS is the better looking car. I'm interested in driving the ATS, but I think it's too small. GM needs to learn how to package cars. Somehow the 3 series has more leg room and a larger trunk. With that said, the interior does look nice, and the technology it has should make it drive nice as well.
aeroslash
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What a pretty nice car..i will never be able to afford an m6, but the m3 (or the i8) are one of my dreams.
TheContact
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Hello auto enthusiasts, anyone know if the 2012 Toyota Carolla LE would be a good car for my girlfriend? The only thing she really cares about is she wants it to be: good in bad weather, safe from collisions, have good highway mpg, and be a comfortable ride.
I was looking at reviews and overall the 2012 Carolla received about a 7.5/10, whereas the Ford Focus (which I think is just a little more expensive) received about a 9/10.
Just wondering if anyone has personal experiences they could share with these cars and if you would recommend.
I was looking at reviews and overall the 2012 Carolla received about a 7.5/10, whereas the Ford Focus (which I think is just a little more expensive) received about a 9/10.
Just wondering if anyone has personal experiences they could share with these cars and if you would recommend.
Where do you live? You can easily lease a M3 for for the amount you are gonna pay for the S4.
The new M6 looks very good. The old 6 series/M6 were puke worthy, but this one is much, much better.
BruiserBear
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In the small car segment the Corolla is a decent choice. Particularly if you're concerned with reliability.
Personally though, I'd steer you towards the Honda Civic, if only because it gets even better gas mileage than the Corolla. The Civic is the best overall value IMO, because its very reliable, very safe, very fuel efficient, and it's still kinda fun to drive. It also depreciates at a slower rate than most other cars. Meaning that if you go to sell it years later, it will be worth more than other cars in its segment.
The Hyundai Elantra is also probably a better choice than the Corolla. It's not as reliable as the Corolla or Civic, but they give you a 100,000 mile warranty with your purchase, so that's nice.
AlphaSnake
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The front end of that M6 looks nice. But I still can't stand that flat and nasty rear.
i make more than double that a day as a business owner. however, it's not always been that way. during the lean times, i learned a few lessons, thus my habits are now much cheaper. the most i ever paid per month was $757.
i live in Canada. US prices aren't an option.
AlphaSnake
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Okay, those prices make sense now.
Go for the TL. That's my personal opinion. As much as I like Infiniti and Nissan's finer products, including the motors, the G is a little cheap still. It rides rough, and it's interior could use some work in quality.
The TL rides better. Has a capable motor. Nice interior. Fantastic seats. It also has a much better AWD system. Plus it's priced considerably better in this instance.
Go for the TL. That's my personal opinion. As much as I like Infiniti and Nissan's finer products, including the motors, the G is a little cheap still. It rides rough, and it's interior could use some work in quality.
The TL rides better. Has a capable motor. Nice interior. Fantastic seats. It also has a much better AWD system. Plus it's priced considerably better in this instance.
Autogaf, I need your input on this.
I went to an auto show yesterday and found two hatchbacks that caught my attention, a 2012 Lexus CT200h (with F sport package) and a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3.
The Lexus CT200h is nice because for about 32 grand you get an upscale Prius since it's a hybrid car. It only puts out 134hp but you get 41 miles a gallon on the highway. The F sport package only improves the handling but you get a nice wing along with it.
The Mazdaspeed 3, as everyone knows, has great handling and performance (263 hp) for only about 23 grand. It's no luxury or hybrid car but can compete with many sport compacts out there. Plus the car has a nice smile lol.
My question is, which would you pick, performance or luxury? I wish the Lexus has a more powerful engine as an option instead of just the hybrid. I currently own a Cobalt SS (the "fake" 2.4 liter one ha ha) and I want to trade it in this summer since it depreciates faster than a jar of molasses. I'm undecided whether to pick a luxury or a performance oriented hatchback.
I went to an auto show yesterday and found two hatchbacks that caught my attention, a 2012 Lexus CT200h (with F sport package) and a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3.
The Lexus CT200h is nice because for about 32 grand you get an upscale Prius since it's a hybrid car. It only puts out 134hp but you get 41 miles a gallon on the highway. The F sport package only improves the handling but you get a nice wing along with it.
The Mazdaspeed 3, as everyone knows, has great handling and performance (263 hp) for only about 23 grand. It's no luxury or hybrid car but can compete with many sport compacts out there. Plus the car has a nice smile lol.
My question is, which would you pick, performance or luxury? I wish the Lexus has a more powerful engine as an option instead of just the hybrid. I currently own a Cobalt SS (the "fake" 2.4 liter one ha ha) and I want to trade it in this summer since it depreciates faster than a jar of molasses. I'm undecided whether to pick a luxury or a performance oriented hatchback.
ClassyPenguin
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I've read that the MS3 has a lot of torque steer.
Although, the NA one is still a lot of fun to drive.
Although, the NA one is still a lot of fun to drive.
AlphaSnake
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My buddy just got a loaded CT200. Nice great. Handles well. Fantastic interior. Superb MPG. But holy shit is it slooooooooooooow. Easily the slowest thing Ive been in in years. I couldnt tolerate that as a daily.
Autogaf, I need your input on this.
I went to an auto show yesterday and found two hatchbacks that caught my attention, a 2012 Lexus CT200h (with F sport package) and a 2012 Mazdaspeed 3.
The Lexus CT200h is nice because for about 32 grand you get an upscale Prius since it's a hybrid car. It only puts out 134hp but you get 41 miles a gallon on the highway. The F sport package only improves the handling but you get a nice wing along with it.
The Mazdaspeed 3, as everyone knows, has great handling and performance (263 hp) for only about 23 grand. It's no luxury or hybrid car but can compete with many sport compacts out there. Plus the car has a nice smile lol.
My question is, which would you pick, performance or luxury? I wish the Lexus has a more powerful engine as an option instead of just the hybrid. I currently own a Cobalt SS (the "fake" 2.4 liter one ha ha) and I want to trade it in this summer since it depreciates faster than a jar of molasses. I'm undecided whether to pick a luxury or a performance oriented hatchback.
I've owned two Honda Accords (when I couldn't afford anything else), and three Lexus LS', including the current model. I am a big Lexus enthusiast (if there is such a thing)-- get the Mazda. The CT is a bore, far overrated, and I really hate having it be a topic when talking about Lexus/Toyota.
Scammer caught on camera thanks to in car DVR.
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shinshoryuken
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Wow sexy!...last gen wasn't to shabby either....
Already discussed it a few pages back but nobody seems to really care for the ATS, personally I am excited about the eventual ATS-V model. Love the CTS-V, I can see the ATS-V becoming their M3 killer.
so so much better looking than the 6 series. actually surprising what a more aggressive bumper can do
They consider those cars like the MS3 to be a hatchback these days? Thought they were sport wagons or whatever.
A hatch is like that gorgeous new Vauxhall Astra VXR. I have a love/hate with hatches, but because of that car I'm back at love lol.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/11/280-hp-vauxhall-astra-vxr-headed-to-geneva/
A hatch is like that gorgeous new Vauxhall Astra VXR. I have a love/hate with hatches, but because of that car I'm back at love lol.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/11/280-hp-vauxhall-astra-vxr-headed-to-geneva/
They are technically 5-doors.
The MS3 is a sport wagon, the Lexus is a wagon. This way people don't confused between cool sport wagons and boring people movers.
This new Astra VXR is fantastic looking, more pics here:
http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/new-vauxhall-astra-vxr-new-pics-2012-02-08?imageNo=1
Shortt Sirket
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Any of AutoGAF going to the Chicago Auto Show this week?
shinobi602
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Not the most exciting car I know, but I recently bought this baby last month at a steal of a price imo... 2009 LE with rims and spoiler, super clean inside, one owner, less than 34k miles for $12000. Never had a new car before, so it's such a surreal feeling.
Super smooth handling and shifting, quiet ride, and overall just a very well made vehicle. I'll buy Toyota and Honda for life.
Super smooth handling and shifting, quiet ride, and overall just a very well made vehicle. I'll buy Toyota and Honda for life.
I am a SoCal gaffer. What kind of budget would we be looking at for a decent S2K? I drive a Ranger (use it for work) and want a second car that is fun to drive and not unreliable (doesn't have to be a daily driver though).
I was also thinking about a Z4 3.0 manual.
I hate to rain on your parade but technically you still haven't owned a new car.
If you're stuck on Toyota for life, and appreciate smooth handling, shifting, quiet rides, and high build quality-- make sure you get yourself a Lexus at some point. They, also, aren't the most exciting vehicles (although the new GS is great), but they're the everyday-consumer pinnacle of 3 out of the 4 attributes you mentioned.
shinobi602
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Oh yea I definitely want to someday. That would be my next step up after this Camry hopefully.
shinobi602
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Yea it's not technically brand new, but for me whose only owned cars made in the 90s, this is damn new for me.
shinshoryuken
Member
Nice purchase! New or used doesn't matter! It new to you, that's all it count. You just saved yourself the depreciation value by not buying new...that's a huge plus!!
Jesus Christ take my money now! Take it!
the photoshops have already begun
That is one good looking car, i'll give it that much ^
Income tax refund is in to add to my play money for a new car, gotta decide on what route I want to take, such a tough decision. Tempted to keep my Evo and just go nuts with suspension and roll cage for Ama Rally events and for winter fun while getting a BRZ for everyday fun commuter. Or, keep the Evo as is and get a Boss. That 1970 retro theme on the new Boss really tugs at my old pony car heart strings, plus it comes in Green.
I'm going to the NYIAS in April though, so hopefully I'll get some answers on cars in the near future, plus get to check a few out in person.
Income tax refund is in to add to my play money for a new car, gotta decide on what route I want to take, such a tough decision. Tempted to keep my Evo and just go nuts with suspension and roll cage for Ama Rally events and for winter fun while getting a BRZ for everyday fun commuter. Or, keep the Evo as is and get a Boss. That 1970 retro theme on the new Boss really tugs at my old pony car heart strings, plus it comes in Green.
I'm going to the NYIAS in April though, so hopefully I'll get some answers on cars in the near future, plus get to check a few out in person.
shinobi602
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I think the GT-86 looks. What the hell's the problem lol?
DonasaurusRex
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This thread needs more Cadillac.
I love the details on the back. Gives it a 3D feel you don't see in a lot of cars. Lots of wedges and angles and creases. I love that.
What do you think of the ATS?
http://www.cadillac.com/ats-compact-car.html
saw it in person at an auto show, like it more than the cts , looks even better in person, the model on it wasnt bad either
saw it in person at an auto show, like it more than the cts , looks even better in person, the model on it wasnt bad either
I want it
shinshoryuken
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Wow....aggressively price with that kind of spec.
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