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Except for the 300zx, Supra, Rx7 and 3000GT, one of my favorite sports car eras =)
Viperbah
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Mclaren Special Operations just unveiled some cosmetic choices for the MP4-12C, including an unpainted carbon hood and a revised front bumper that I really like.
Nice, do you have a MP4-12C ?
the Mustang design seems to be "inspired", have taken "design clues" etc.etc.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
The mustang is similar in profile but that's more an effect of FR coupes having somewhat constrained proportions and both the FRS and Mustang taking inspirations from the same sources.
Really, from the A-pillar back they're strikingly similar in profile, though the Mustang is more elongated.
Really, from the A-pillar back they're strikingly similar in profile, though the Mustang is more elongated.
Mclaren Special Operations just unveiled some cosmetic choices for the MP4-12C, including an unpainted carbon hood and a revised front bumper that I really like.
Wow. That actually looks great. I like the front vents.
nice pick up!Met a friend for lunch today, and on my way back to work my car died. :-/
It was jer..jerk...jerrrrrk...jerking as I drove, and so I pulled over into a parking lot. Turned it off. Checked the engine (cause, you know, I'm a guy so that's obviously the first thing I do). Make sure my battery is connected right. Check the belts. Go to start my car - nothing. No gauges. No sound. Nothing. I'm about to call AAA for a tow - but shoot my boss an email real quick (which he was cool about). Start it one more time - starts up fine. No issues.
But with nearly 100,000 miles, no warranty, a dent in my trunk, my heat and defrost no longer working, my CV joints going... I just was ready to stop worrying about it. I got back to work around 1:30, and asked my boss if I could PTO the remainder of the day, which wasn't a problem.
I hit two Ford dealerships - the new Fusion is what I had in mind. Yes, I'm kinda young looking - but I was wearing nice clothes and a nice watch/shoes driving an okay car - you'd think SOMEONE would come help me. But even when I went inside, the three employees just sat around and talked to each other while calling someone to help me. Yeah, screw that. I left. Never even got a chance to test drive the Fusion.
Hit three Chevy dealerships. I want a Camaro SS really bad - but I'm not quite prepared for that kind of payment. I could swing it if I really wanted - but there go the fun video games and eating out. It'd kill my budget, and so I decided against it. The Malibu is alright - but honestly, if I were to get the Malibu, I'd rather get the Fusion. The Cruz is WAY too small for me - I'm 6'2 and 250 lbs with size 16 shoes. I need some space (but would make an exception for the Camaro or Challenger ;p )
Hit Toyota - nothing exciting.
Hit Nissan - like the Maxima, but even used the things were in the high 20s low 30s. Yikes. New were hitting $40+K sticker. Had no idea those were that expensive. On a side note, though, my younger sister bought a 2011 Sentra last year, and it's reliable as heck it seems. It's perfect for her - nice little car she's got.
Ended up at Carmax. Figured I'd look. A dark forest green, 2011 Jeep Liberty Limited caught my eye. Pretty much every option checked off - leather, heated and memory seats, Bluetooth, XM, upgraded Infinity sound, etc - except for 4WD and sunroof. Drove nice. Was the nicest one they had on the lot. Went in, they gave me a great interest rate (I should assumed/hoped for good as I have very worthy credit, but knew sometimes they rob you in this department) but I was happy. My trade in value was decent, too, considering the issues. Ended up being able to work in a 7yr, 150,000 mile warranty plus GAP insurance into the payment I was hoping to have each month. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE having that peace of mind. Also, called up Geico and they said my insurance payment will actually be less?! The heck. I triple checked, and they said that happens sometimes. So I've got great, full coverage with the smallest deductible they offer. Again, I appreciate the peace of mind. Furthermore, didn't drop a cent today, my tax/tags/etc are covered, and my first payment isn't until mid December.
Drove it all around town tonight to check it out - really love it. A nice change of pace from my old sedan. I'll take some more pics after I get a chance to detail it, but I'm extremely happy. Went from not thinking about it at all this morning, to a a problem at 1. Off work at 1:30. New keys in my hand by 6pm. Fast day!
so cars basically go for 100k now before getting a ton of problems and leaving you to ultimately scrap 'em?
jeez. my land cruiser hit 750k just at the start of spring but i just went and retired her for the winter because salt kills her
Best sounding V6?
Technosteve
Banned
what's the best MPG on a SUV less then 30k? The weather has me thinking i need something slightly taller.
Met a friend for lunch today, and on my way back to work my car died. :-/
It was jer..jerk...jerrrrrk...jerking as I drove, and so I pulled over into a parking lot. Turned it off. Checked the engine (cause, you know, I'm a guy so that's obviously the first thing I do). Make sure my battery is connected right. Check the belts. Go to start my car - nothing. No gauges. No sound. Nothing. I'm about to call AAA for a tow - but shoot my boss an email real quick (which he was cool about). Start it one more time - starts up fine. No issues.
But with nearly 100,000 miles, no warranty, a dent in my trunk, my heat and defrost no longer working, my CV joints going... I just was ready to stop worrying about it. I got back to work around 1:30, and asked my boss if I could PTO the remainder of the day, which wasn't a problem.
I hit two Ford dealerships - the new Fusion is what I had in mind. Yes, I'm kinda young looking - but I was wearing nice clothes and a nice watch/shoes driving an okay car - you'd think SOMEONE would come help me. But even when I went inside, the three employees just sat around and talked to each other while calling someone to help me. Yeah, screw that. I left. Never even got a chance to test drive the Fusion.
Hit three Chevy dealerships. I want a Camaro SS really bad - but I'm not quite prepared for that kind of payment. I could swing it if I really wanted - but there go the fun video games and eating out. It'd kill my budget, and so I decided against it. The Malibu is alright - but honestly, if I were to get the Malibu, I'd rather get the Fusion. The Cruz is WAY too small for me - I'm 6'2 and 250 lbs with size 16 shoes. I need some space (but would make an exception for the Camaro or Challenger ;p )
Hit Toyota - nothing exciting.
Hit Nissan - like the Maxima, but even used the things were in the high 20s low 30s. Yikes. New were hitting $40+K sticker. Had no idea those were that expensive. On a side note, though, my younger sister bought a 2011 Sentra last year, and it's reliable as heck it seems. It's perfect for her - nice little car she's got.
Ended up at Carmax. Figured I'd look. A dark forest green, 2011 Jeep Liberty Limited caught my eye. Pretty much every option checked off - leather, heated and memory seats, Bluetooth, XM, upgraded Infinity sound, etc - except for 4WD and sunroof. Drove nice. Was the nicest one they had on the lot. Went in, they gave me a great interest rate (I should assumed/hoped for good as I have very worthy credit, but knew sometimes they rob you in this department) but I was happy. My trade in value was decent, too, considering the issues. Ended up being able to work in a 7yr, 150,000 mile warranty plus GAP insurance into the payment I was hoping to have each month. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE having that peace of mind. Also, called up Geico and they said my insurance payment will actually be less?! The heck. I triple checked, and they said that happens sometimes. So I've got great, full coverage with the smallest deductible they offer. Again, I appreciate the peace of mind. Furthermore, didn't drop a cent today, my tax/tags/etc are covered, and my first payment isn't until mid December.
Drove it all around town tonight to check it out - really love it. A nice change of pace from my old sedan. I'll take some more pics after I get a chance to detail it, but I'm extremely happy. Went from not thinking about it at all this morning, to a a problem at 1. Off work at 1:30. New keys in my hand by 6pm. Fast day!
Congrats on the new ride. Did you get the 3.7L or the 4.0L? My wife's sister has a Nitro which is basically the same thing as this and when I got to drive it, the transmission connected to the 3.7L was awful. They say the 4.0L has the 5 speed which gives it better fuel economy and smoother shifting points.
The V6 sounds astonishing but then they have the V8 pass by and.... FUCK.
The V6 is good but (I'm biased, I admit) the Porsche flat 6's sound even better IMO. That V8 though.... I think I caught a little bit of drool coming out of the corner of my mouth when I heard it. That thing sounds fantastic!
BrokenEchelon
Banned
New? Mazda CX-5. 26/35 MPG.
Yeah, I grinned like an idiot at the V8 sound.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Got my Jaguar out of the garage. Thankfully no water entered the garage. But boy do I have a crazy story about how I recovered it, since all of Long Island has absolutely no power - the garage remote was useless. Hell, entering Long Island was like entering a ghost town - it was pitch black absolutely everywhere. Traffic lights were out, lights, the streets were dark so it was hard to see trees on the ground.
I got to my office building, I tried to pry the gate up, when I heard someone from the other side asking me what am I trying to do. I thought someone was trapped, turns out it was the guy from the 2nd floor trying to get his A6 out looking for some sort of emergency latch to unlock the garage door. No such thing. I able to go inside the garage from the building door and make sure my baby was safe - she was. But what were the chances of somebody being there at the exact same time as me also trying to get his car out? What a coincidence.
We needed to get our cars out of there, because the power would not be coming back on for many days. So we noticed the box that houses the pulley and motor assembly. The guy started toying around with it and started cranking the pulley - the door began to rise but very incrementally. So we took turns for about 30 minutes rotating this pulley, cranking up this massive steel gate that was like 30 feet wide, and 10 feet tall.
Finally we were able to get both his A6 and my Jag out, escaping into the night.
I got to my office building, I tried to pry the gate up, when I heard someone from the other side asking me what am I trying to do. I thought someone was trapped, turns out it was the guy from the 2nd floor trying to get his A6 out looking for some sort of emergency latch to unlock the garage door. No such thing. I able to go inside the garage from the building door and make sure my baby was safe - she was. But what were the chances of somebody being there at the exact same time as me also trying to get his car out? What a coincidence.
We needed to get our cars out of there, because the power would not be coming back on for many days. So we noticed the box that houses the pulley and motor assembly. The guy started toying around with it and started cranking the pulley - the door began to rise but very incrementally. So we took turns for about 30 minutes rotating this pulley, cranking up this massive steel gate that was like 30 feet wide, and 10 feet tall.
Finally we were able to get both his A6 and my Jag out, escaping into the night.
DonasaurusRex
Online Ho Champ
yeah yeah we all know the mustang is based off of that concept shows off like last year in Beijing or whatever it looks dang near the same, was rumored to be the design for the next gen mustang, and lo and behold this render looks like that damn car. Long before the scion / subaru , how long ago did they draw up that concept if they had one to show last year and have renders possible something this year for the NAIAS?? sheesh
David Incorporated Esq.
Member
Which is probably why I didn't say the mustang was ripping off the Subion.
Hilarious. Reminded me of the new NFS: Most Wanted video.
weekend_warrior
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The best SUV period is probably the new Dodge Durango.
Starts at $29k and gets terrible gas mileage.
just sayin'
As if Ford wants to copy such an awful front end.
http://www.netcarshow.com/ford/2011-evos_concept/1600x1200/wallpaper_04.htm
Man, I gotta say, after looking through all of the available European options the selection is absolutely awesome. In both new and used, the types of cars I'm looking for with the right options package will be easy to get.Yeah the new 3 series is awesome... I would've gotten us the 320d efficient dynamics version if this Peugeot wasn't so fiscally attractive due to stupid Dutch laws (because it's a hybrid, but the BMW is faster despite having less total power and has much better highway MPG)
and the only fields of cars I've seen around here are used onesIf I look for 2012 3 series on some French used car sites there are some dealers that do have cars with 0 mileage listed, so you might want to check that out once you've moved. Most results seem to be test-drive cars though
Edit: and if you go for a Volkswagen diesel again don't choose any of the 1.6 engines, because those are horribly slow and trying to drive somewhat fast in them will result in terrible MPG. Also there's always Skoda and Seat, which are basically rebadged Audi/VW models (or at least their platform + engines and transmissions) and thus much more affordable
In Cincinnati, OH (where I am now) finding a BMW with a manual transmission and the right set of options (premium sound, nav, etc) was nearly impossible. Last year, I looked at a 5 series but was never able to find one with the right feature set AND when I asked about ordering I was told they could not obtain one with a manual transmission in the US any longer. Then, I started looking at the 3 and would have definitely had to resort to building (which I ended up not doing as a result of this move). The only manual transmission 3 series that showed up on the lot were the base models lacking all of the options I wanted. I didn't want to settle and now I'm glad I did not.
I will definitely avoid a 1.6 VW for our economy car, though. The TDI we have now is a 2.0L and actually feels surprisingly responsive for a low powered diesel wagon. I wouldn't want to go any lower than that.
Replace "Mini-van" with "SUV" and I'm with you.
If I had children, I'd probably get a mini-van. I think they are the best family vehicles. I like wagons, but sliding doors push mini-vans over the edge. The only other thing I'd consider is a conversion van. I love conversion vans.
sounds ok, doesnt beat a straight six diesel, thats for sure. gas cars always have that bee-stuck-in-a-tin-can kinda noise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0kdT5YN8rs
revving
i'll try to find a better video, but you get the gist
I vehemently disagree. Those engines sound like they are being fed with coal.
Haha - that's awesome. Glad it was safe and sound. Good fortune that you could crank the pulley by hand.
Pretty much - Wow!
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I have to mention this...did you notice that the transmission didn't seem to shift particularly quick? For the car's sake, I hope it was just in a comfort setting of some sort. Because I know the ZF8 box in the Audi shifts super quick in sport mode, as does the ZF6 in my Jaguar now.
Have I mentioned that I have a Jag? I figured I should.
Jaaaaaaaaaag
Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag.
There's no recovering from a mini-van though. It's like "which is the best lethal nerve agent to be exposed to?"
I would keep my sedan. Or coupe. Or whatever I had. Wife could do what she wanted. I refuse to ever own a minivan. Keep in mind that I have respect for things Jeep-like (real JEEP, not Jeep as a brand), but not SUVs/CUVs. Please don't ever expect advice or praise on/for an SUV, I will only give you a dirty look.
I notice that the gentleman in the video appears to have an audio system in his vehicle, and I wonder what the purpose of it is.
There's no recovering from a mini-van though. It's like "which is the best lethal nerve agent to be exposed to?"
I would keep my sedan. Or coupe. Or whatever I had. Wife could do what she wanted. I refuse to ever own a minivan. Keep in mind that I have respect for things Jeep-like (real JEEP, not Jeep as a brand), but not SUVs/CUVs. Please don't ever expect advice or praise on/for an SUV, I will only give you a dirty look.
I notice that the gentleman in the video appears to have an audio system in his vehicle, and I wonder what the purpose of it is.
mclaren777
Member
Nope. I don't see myself ever spending more than $20k for a car.
My favorite is (and possibly always will be) the Infiniti G35 Coupe. I can literally identify one from blocks away by hearing alone.
It is a distinctive noise. Not sure it is my favorite though.
In other news:
Honda may share platforms, facilities with Malaysia's Proton
Aaaaaand Awesome video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_INdbXMqsw
PseudoKirby
Banned
Picked up a 5 Speed WRX Transmission, differential, drive shaft, and axels today, happy to start the parts collection for my project lol.
Along with the new front bumper, fenders, hood, headlights and other pieces to repair my MR2 which is at the shop.
Along with the new front bumper, fenders, hood, headlights and other pieces to repair my MR2 which is at the shop.
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AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I hate it when car companies say they have something planned to release in 4 fucking years. Just don't tell us shit, because it's useless unless it exists. Wait until a year until you announce it.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
and investors.
That video was amazing. I generally like Chris Harris anyway but the Delta Wing is such an interesting project that hearing his take on it was cool.
5MT can't handle as much power as the 6MT. FYI.
Why? The 13B Renesis in the RX-8 made what, 220-240hp? The 16X is said to be able to make up to 300hp. No idea how fuel economy works into it, but if it's targetting the Z and has 280ish hp and under 2900 lbs, it'll be fantastic.
Though it won't happen, I wish Toyota would bring back the Supra in all it's MKIV glory, and at the show they announce it say, "BTW - Here it is, on sale next month". Though in this day and age it would be impossible to do so with all the "spy photo scoopers" catching everything. And as we know, taking a car to the Ring for testing is street cred like a rapper getting shot.
I would not count out the Supra.
Oh, the Supra is coming back, I'm just saying it should be announced like that. No one knowing a thing about it, then bam, instead of 2-4 years until sale. Plus, I hope it's true to it's MKIV roots.
Oh, the Supra is coming back, I'm just saying it should be announced like that. No one knowing a thing about it, then bam, instead of 2-4 years until sale. Plus, I hope it's true to it's MKIV roots.
I think it is going to be an electric turbo hybrid. Hopefully TT V6.
PseudoKirby
Banned
Yea I know, but it handles more than an L 5 speed, and its MUCH better than my Auto FWD
Still need a couple parts such as:
Gas Tank
Clutch and Flywheel
Pedals
Rear Subframe
CLutch Slave and Master Cylinders
and Front CV Axels
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