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No, but the Golf R does.
Because you have a problem.
Lookin' is free man.
I do. I want masses of low end torque.
When I look it often leads to buying at some point. D:
I want to get a new car within the next year and a half but I just can't make a decision on what to set my sights on. I have a Maxima which provides enough power and luxury for me at the moment so I feel like whatever I get next needs to be a step up.
So far I've been looking into A5/S5, 535i, G37, Cayenne, 335i but I really can't narrow it down. I need the car to be a manual transmission but other than that I have no preference. Any suggestions or tips?
So far I've been looking into A5/S5, 535i, G37, Cayenne, 335i but I really can't narrow it down. I need the car to be a manual transmission but other than that I have no preference. Any suggestions or tips?
Mattlikewhoa
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Because you are a badass!
Real talk, I've been researching ones for SR20's myself (and I don't even have my car yet).
BrokenEchelon
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You're kind of in an interesting range there with your listed picks.
I'm 99% sure there's no such thing as an MT Cayenne, unless you meant the Cayman.
I'd go with the 335i over the G37 and A5. You could also wait for the official 4-Series since it looks like you want a coupe. I believe the G family is also due for a new generation model within a year. You've pretty much picked the top of the pack with those three so I'd also say that you should just drive all of them and see which one you like the most.
I don't believe the latest 5-Series has been received too well, you'd be better off looking at the A6 or E-Class.
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Unrelated:
Autoblog's Lincoln MKZ Review:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/07/2013-lincoln-mkz-first-drive-review-video/
Honestly? I like the sheet metal. It's too bad that it seems paired with a mediocre heart and interior.
I'd say it looks like they've done a better job differentiating it from the Fusion than last generation. Not sure about its competitor list. Aren't the A6 and 5 series far more expensive? The CTS is in that price range, but mostly I see it just competing with the ES, as it's FWD. I think the next-gen CTS is coming next year, and it'll probably be more expensive as well. So from that standpoint, the MKZ may present a good value solution, but that's really more where Mercury should have been than Lincoln.
I'd say the styling is almost really good, but there's something off about it from every angle.
I'd say the styling is almost really good, but there's something off about it from every angle.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Where do you live? I've had a 335i Coupe...I liked it a lot. But the interior build quality wasn't very good. Rattles and squeaks everywhere. Plus it rides rough as hell no matter what kind of tires you have on the car.
My personal suggestion is the Audi S5.
Yea, it's a shame, too. The LS was a really nice car, especially the last year of production. The Zephyr (MKZ) just didn't make me smile the same way.
The base model and GTS model of the Cayenne offer MT. I'm not really looking to have the latest and greatest just a step up from my maxima.
Thanks for the input
I'm in NYC so the roads are shit. I did read that he 335i has a very stiff ride...my gut says get the Audi...
Anyone have any experience with extended warranties??
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
NYC here too. The BMW will hurt you on these roads then.
Extended warranties, even those from BMW and Audi are crap. They know what fails on these cars, and they know how to structure them so screw you. I urge you to get new if you go for this kind of car. Or at least a car that has a lot of warranty on it.
BrokenEchelon
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Does that mean we'll see an M3 Sedan then, and an M4 coupe, as the new naming system would imply?
Yeah. I wonder if there is going to be a 4 series Gran Coupe.
If they think it will sell, sure.
Breaking the 3 coupe out into the 4 and further differentiating it will allow for a larger price gap as well. They have a gap of $2200 for the 328 and $2300 for the 335 base right now with the coupe a hold over from last gen. I'm guessing that will grow to at least $7000 when the 4 goes on sale.
That 4 "concept" is hot. Ditto on the M4.
Yes, there will be.
Here is a video of the 4 concept. Same environment as the stills that were posted earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvPihKc7TY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehvPihKc7TY
M4 render:
This thing is more obnoxious than any STi I've ever seen. Holy passive-aggressive design, Batman.
Well the thing about buying new is I'm still pretty young (24 y.o.) and I don't want to be forced to work a full time job just to make payments on a car.
Going German probably isn't the best option but like I said earlier I don't know if an Infiniti is enough of a step up from my Maxima to even warrant the purchase...
So far all my research into the A5 points to an issue with carbon build up but otherwise all minor annoyances. Do you have experience with Audi's??
Sqrt_minus_one
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I disagree there is no passive in that design.
On another note, I dislike the headlights of the new 3 series and 4 series linking up with the kidney grill. Old version was so much better.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Yes. A ton of it. My fiance used to have an A4 2.0T. I used to have a last gen Audi A6 4.2. And leased a 2012 A6 3.0T (until I transfered the lease over to my dad when I got a Jaguar XF).
I am not a fan of Audi's 2.0s at all. They seem to be alarmingly problematic when driven a little hard - that bodes the same for VWs GTIs and such. Audi's consume oil - my 4.2 burned oil and now the 3.0T is burning oil as well - it barely has 10K miles on it. I used to have a 2001 Maxima, sold it for a 2006 350Z, then sold that for a 2010 370Z and haven't looked back. You'd be surprised how comfortable the Z rides in NYC, mine is dropped too and the ride is just superb.
If backseats are not an absolute necessity, I suggest a fully loaded 370Z. Otherwise, I don't suggest a used Audi or used BMW.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Not even in the slightest bit is that at all obnoxious.
Dude, never buy a German luxoboat out of warranty. You're 24 and you need a 'step up'? I know a maxima isn't exactly exciting, but if it's what you have already, keep it until you can get something you really want without any major compromises.
Side vents? Obnoxious.
Huuuuge wheels? Obnoxious. (also leading to other ride/handling/etc compromises)
That power bulge in the hood? Obnoxious.
The headlights? Obnoxious.
Thos front vents? Obno-ah-ah-xious.
And lastly, those side skirts? Obnoxious.
I think the parts that bug me the most are the big wang under the hood and the side vents. The rest I could deal with (although man those front vents... man.)
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
So, about oil changes...
I got my Jeep about a month ago; and while the dealership says they changed the oil, who knows how long the vehicle has been sitting.
With my older rides, I've always just gone wherever a coupon popped up. $19.99 at Jiffy Lube? Great! $23 at Firestone? Sure! No coupons but the Nissan dealership is running a $35 special and it's close? Eh, I guess.
They never really did anything wrong, as far as I can tell. But now that I actually have a "nicer" vehicle, I'd like to treat it right and actually stay on-top of recommended maintenance and whatnot. And that starts for oil changes.
I know, I know... do it yourself. But, honestly, I'd rather just take it somehwhere that is decent but won't rape my wallet. Recommendations? Regular oil fine? I do every 5K miles. It's a 2011 Jeep Liberty - can I stick with that cycle? And for things like "recommended XX flush at XX miles"... should I go to a dealership or somewhere else? Just looking for general recommendations. Thanks!
I got my Jeep about a month ago; and while the dealership says they changed the oil, who knows how long the vehicle has been sitting.
With my older rides, I've always just gone wherever a coupon popped up. $19.99 at Jiffy Lube? Great! $23 at Firestone? Sure! No coupons but the Nissan dealership is running a $35 special and it's close? Eh, I guess.
They never really did anything wrong, as far as I can tell. But now that I actually have a "nicer" vehicle, I'd like to treat it right and actually stay on-top of recommended maintenance and whatnot. And that starts for oil changes.
I know, I know... do it yourself. But, honestly, I'd rather just take it somehwhere that is decent but won't rape my wallet. Recommendations? Regular oil fine? I do every 5K miles. It's a 2011 Jeep Liberty - can I stick with that cycle? And for things like "recommended XX flush at XX miles"... should I go to a dealership or somewhere else? Just looking for general recommendations. Thanks!
No offense, but you want to 'treat it right', but then are willing to accept only 'decent'?
Synthetic is always better, and I don't know that I believe in oil flushes.
ClassyPenguin
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With synthetic you can go like 7,000+ miles between oil changes.
I do them myself because places like Jiffy Lube tend to underfill.
I do them myself because places like Jiffy Lube tend to underfill.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Sorry, should have been more clear - I mean, I want the cost/quality ratio to be acceptable. I'm happy to pay for whatever until it hits diminishing returns.
Worst case scenario I'll just slide under the car every 5K miles or so and do a quick Valvoline change or something. Was just curious if people had other recommendations
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
LMAO. Oh man. You're a comedian.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
you realize most of that shit is functional? the e92 M3 had the hood bulge to fit the engine. whether this car has or will need it we don't know yet.
the side vents are really what set ///M cars apart.
bigger rims will force a lower sidewall which is better for cornering stability.
the headlights are part of BMW's design. the LED lights make it easier for other cars to see you out of the corner.
the front vents help get more air to the intercooler and brakes.
the side skirts just look damn good.
Giant Robot
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YuriLowell
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oh look another idiot that thinks 4WD makes them invincible.
Based on the spy shots, the 2014 G37 will not look good. That grill is hideous.
I recognize that it may be functional, but it's still obnoxious. I'd expect that in something else, not in a BMW.
-The bulge is something I'd expect on an old Camaro. They should've just used a dry-sump lube system or something to get the engine lower.
-Really? The E30 and E36 had no side vents. The E46's were very tasteful. I can deal with the E9x's although they're a bit gauche. These? It's not a freakin' Viper or Corvette.
-Bigger rims? It's not a DTM car, this'll just mean a shitty ride or compromises to ameliorate that. And cornering stability where? On the on-ramp?
-The headlights are functional, fine. I say they're way too flashy, and the design is going to be dated very quickly, IMO.
-The front vents could get air where it needs to go without looking like some kind of hyperspace docking bay.
-The skirts... meh.
Bwahahaha, Infiniti just can't make a good design if their life depended on it. Oh my lord. The entire design staff AND the exec who approves these things should disembowel themselves. Shameful.
BrokenEchelon
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I disagree with you about the M4, as I think it looks pretty damn good, but I totally agree with you about Infiniti, and Nissan in general.
It's like it's their goal as a company to make the ugliest cars ever conceived: The Juke, The Cube, the Murano, The Infiniti <Anything>, even the GT-R is probably the most robotic, uninspired looking supercar ever made, and the Z cars are all over the place.
ClassyPenguin
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Because BMW has never released a M3 with a bulge before...
... or made the body wider to fit bigger wheels and engine. Nope. Not at all.
Obviously they did. Doesn't mean they should have (@ hood). As to the wider body, I have no problems with that. I like a wide-track. But 20" wheels are ridiculous. I feel self-conscious with 17s on mine. Wish I could fit 16s. Maybe one day.
I guess I just remember the days when BMWs were more about doing than looking. When the only way to tell an M5 from a regular 5 series was the badge on the trunk. If you want crass performance, there are plenty of other marques that could have served that up. I always felt that BMW had a bit more class. Past tense, I guess.
That sign was one day from retirement.
Best.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
Uhhh...they HAD to change the hood of the M3 otherwise the standard hood of the 3-series wouldn't close.
Please stop, man. You're the only person to criticize these cars the way you specifically do. It's almost mind boggling what upsets you, as if you were stuck in the 90s.
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