akachan ningen
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That ferrari looks ridiculous. I like it.
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Shortt Sirket
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I'm not crazy in thinking that the LaFerrari looks like the new Pagani, right?
Glad I'm not the only one that made the connection.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Aside from sharing the shape that mid-engine supercars kind of have to have they share nothing in common.
The LaFerrari is also a pretty odd looking car, but at least it looks better than the Enzo.
Fake edit: Nevermind I just saw the top of the windshield, what is going on with that curve? Who thought that was a good idea? Such a strange looking car.
Ferrari just needs to drop it with their styling, all they do is make ridiculous looking cars and say "But aerodynamics!" No. Stop it. Aero that none of your owners will really notice or care about is a poor justification for making odd looking and ugly cars.
twinturbo2
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The LaFerrari looks even uglier than an Enzo.
Never thought I would say that, but here we are.
The days of aerodynamics ruling over beauty has to stop.
Never thought I would say that, but here we are.
The days of aerodynamics ruling over beauty has to stop.
AlanzTalon
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Wind tunnels don't care about design. They want 250 mph there is one shape to get it... Pagani, bugatti, ferrari, mclaren all are going to have the same profile.
Shortt Sirket
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Those are fair points. I dunno, the shape and the rear made me really think of the Pagani. But when you are looking for the best aerodynamics, there is going to be some overlap in the high performance designs. So that is probably why my brain made the connection.
And I like that. Maybe I'm in the minority, but aesthetics can only bring a car so far. I'm all for the ugliest shape if it gets you ten times your weight in downforce.
That said, the Ferrari is a beauty.
David Incorporated Esq.
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It is not a race car. It is a road car and many of the people who buy them don't give a crap about racing. So really who gives a shit if it has 10% more downforce at 120mph than the last model?
Did the Enzo or anything based on the Enzo even race at any point or were the 360 and 430 GT cars the only race cars Ferrari had?
The FXX?
It may be a street car but damn if some aren't gonna make it to the track. That's where the design philosophy pays off in the better specs.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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what are you talking about?
Jesus. It's like walking into House of Mirrors and seeing a concave and convex self.
David Incorporated Esq.
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The FXX was just a testbed vehicle that owners didn't even really own. They could only be driven at tracks under Ferrari supervision and there were what, 10 of them in total? The FXX was essentially an R&D program directly subsidized by extra-wealthy Ferrari owners.
There was a canceled Enzo race car project that became the FXX.
YuriLowell
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Why does no one talk about the engine. 760horsepower from a N/A V8. 9250rpm.
Too bad its stuck on an automatic.
Too bad its stuck on an automatic.
Yup, y'all are fucking CRAZY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRsV6YpLsKA
This car is fucking insane -- in all the great kind of ways. Around the :45s when the driver adjusts, well, everything lol, and the car starts up is holy shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iRsV6YpLsKA
This car is fucking insane -- in all the great kind of ways. Around the :45s when the driver adjusts, well, everything lol, and the car starts up is holy shit.
twinturbo2
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Personally, I think that looks stunning and exactly what Ferrari needed to do. It looks like a proper hypercar.
The name, however, is dumb.
You're crazy. This is ages better.
YuriLowell
Member
You're crazy. This is ages better.
That front end looks like it belongs in a cars movie.
Terrible.
You're crazy. This is ages better.
Nostalgia is the greatest blowjob of all time.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I prefer form over function, or at least something that doesn't look like the designer sat on the clay model by accident.
I'll take a Koiengsegg Agera R, Pagani Huayra, or a Porsche 918 over the LaAztek any day, in my dreams.
EDIT: Scratch that. Buy an Alfa.
Spaceman Spiff
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Hmm, the MC12? It certainly made a name for itself in GT1, although it shared little with the Enzo besides the tub/subframes and powertrain.
The mid-engine V8 cars have been the backbone of Ferrari's GT racing since the demise of GT1, and even before.
That F50 is hideous. Ferrari just reiterated their number 1 position with this car. 9250 rpm + HY-KERS is a proper supercar for 2013.
McLaren P1 is close, but their approach to power is lazy and not worthy of a $1M pricetag. High revving NA engines > Turbo engines. Turbo is the cheap way to make power.
That's why you see lots of 1000+ hp GT-R's, Supra's etc, but you don't see a 9000 rpm car often.
McLaren P1 is close, but their approach to power is lazy and not worthy of a $1M pricetag. High revving NA engines > Turbo engines. Turbo is the cheap way to make power.
That's why you see lots of 1000+ hp GT-R's, Supra's etc, but you don't see a 9000 rpm car often.
twinturbo2
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I must be the only person on the planet that likes the F50, then. Sad...
I like it but it and the Enzo are far behind the F40 and 288 GTO.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
The '80s supercars were the best, no doubt about that. F40, Countach, 959... those were the days, form over function.
No... because it's not an exotic.
Lambos are exotics. Many Ferraris are exotics. A Saleen S7 is. A Pagani is. A Shelby Mustang GT500 is not. An Ariel Atom is not. A Corvette is not. A Veyron is an exotic. A Viper might be, and you might make a case for a GT-R.
Yes to a Carerra GT, yes to the 918. I hesitate to call the GT1 an exotic, because generally they're not race cars, but one could make that argument. But a 911 is not.
Exotic has nothing to do with weight.
No... because it's not an exotic.
Lambos are exotics. Many Ferraris are exotics. A Saleen S7 is. A Pagani is. A Shelby Mustang GT500 is not. An Ariel Atom is not. A Corvette is not. A Veyron is an exotic. A Viper might be, and you might make a case for a GT-R.
Yes to a Carerra GT, yes to the 918. I hesitate to call the GT1 an exotic, because generally they're not race cars, but one could make that argument. But a 911 is not.
Exotic has nothing to do with weight.
Your definition of exotic seems to be based on price and rarity. The GT-R is definitely not an exotic.
Certainly not. the F50 is stunning.
BrokenEchelon
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No... because it's not an exotic.
Lambos are exotics. Many Ferraris are exotics. A Saleen S7 is. A Pagani is. A Shelby Mustang GT500 is not. An Ariel Atom is not. A Corvette is not. A Veyron is an exotic. A Viper might be, and you might make a case for a GT-R.
Yes to a Carerra GT, yes to the 918. I hesitate to call the GT1 an exotic, because generally they're not race cars, but one could make that argument. But a 911 is not.
Exotic has nothing to do with weight.
Sense, your definition makes none. Which just further points to the fact that there is no set definition of Supercar, Hypercar, Exotic, etc.
It is an exotic from the basis of it is not ubiquitous. Not many people know what a GTR is, this makes it foreign to most people... hence exotic (by definition). A lot of people know what a 911 is. The Viper is not really exotic in the States but abroad it sure is. Just like the GTR is not very exotic in Japan, but it is in the US. It is a matter of location.
Ariel Atom is rarer than the GTR yet he doesn't think that it's exotic. The GTR, 911, or the Viper are not exotics at all.
The Atom falls into that category of street legal race car (like the Radical and KTM). It is not "really" a "car".
The Bookerman
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You're crazy. This is ages better.
Jeremy Clarkson would like to have a word with you.
It's a V12 btw
Liquidsnake
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Project 2014 model. I wish I could have waited one more year, but I was not in a position to wait.
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It looks like the worst parts of a 370Z and a FR-S made nasty barn sex.
weekend_warrior
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The top is before (faded), the bottom is after (re-dyed) - My first restoration attempt, on my new steering wheel.
You only posted 1 picture.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Its just based on completely arbitrary pronouncements of "things I like."
Look at the stitching.
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