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Right, but N-Bomb is the one adamant that the 90's had better designed vehicles compared to today.
AlphaSnake
...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
N-Bomb is the definition of oldmanyellsatcloud.jpg meme
No one is saying conform, but good God man...see the brighter side of things
No one is saying conform, but good God man...see the brighter side of things
I don't understand your argument. I bet if we were in the 90's you'd be raving about how beautiful those cars are and how modulating the styling was compared to the 80's. Taste is subjective and fashion evolves over time. Part of the reason you think that the cars of today are infinitely better looking is because of society's influence.
PoweredBySoy
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"If we were in the 90s" ??
We're not in the 90s... We are in the 2010s. We are discussing today's vehicle industrial design versus 90s vehicle industrial design.
You don't understand my argument, yet you make a completely baffling non-sequitur strawman. Who said the 80s had good design?
My argument is simple: industrial design today is leaps and bounds better over the 90s.
shinshoryuken
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The only good looking car that's from the 90s that still look decent are the NSX.
N-Bomb's memories are all glossy poster-based.
David Incorporated Esq.
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Did anyone actually like the look of cars in the 80s or 90s? I distinctly remember seeing my Dad bring home a brand new Dodge Spirit and thinking it was ugly as sin, even then.
Genesis Knight
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Why would someone want a 2010 Accord LX-P @20k mi for $18k when you can get a new Accord for a bit more?
chickdigger802
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thinking of cars of the 90s in the family, I hate how the geo prizm looks and the corolla equiv. I do like the mid 90s maxima though.
I remember when my Grandmother got an Oldsmobile Aurora and thinking it looked cool. Certainly an interesting design.
I liked the low cowl heights and great visibility due to not having bullshit pedestrian safety requirements. Imagine what kinds of designs we could have now if automakers didn't have to abide by that garbage. Look at the Peugeot 106 GTi for example:
Still can't figure out how the window goes down on that car, it looks bigger than the metal part of the door!
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If you care about pedestrian safety, don't hit them. I'm sure the pollution resulting from the extra fuel consumption that comes with using heavier, higher cowl cars plus accidents caused by poor visibility due to car design has killed more people than actual accidents where pedestrian safety has made a difference.
What the heck? That's exactly my point. You're blasting the other poster for thinking that the 90's had a good car design because you think that the current industrial design is miles better. I'm saying that your opinion is slightly skewed by society because these cars are seen as attractive today by the general mass.
Too much to respond to here, but I'll say that the 90s Civic was much better looking than the current one, and the first gen Mazda 6 over the new one.
SPEED LINES. SPEED LINES EVERYWHERE.
These held up to the test of time even in comparison to today's cars. The interior is dated, sure, but the styling of the MKIV is a work of art. It's sad to see that Toyota could make awesome cars if they wanted to, but they choose not to anymore.
I never really liked the fat ass on the MkIV, but it's a vision compared to most modern cars.
David Incorporated Esq.
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From the first day I saw it until today, I've thought the MkIV Supra with its swoopy lines and basket-handle wing have looked ridiculous.
The safety demands came from commerce, not nanny statism. You can bet that if the insurance bills weren't higher for wedge shaped low slung death machine impacts, the regulation wouldn't have come as quickly, or at all.
I don't like it, but it's based on data, not paranoia.
I see, thanks for the clarification.
I'd still be happier with a mandatory pain-inducing device for all cars that would give you the sensation of pain if you weren't paying attention to driving, though. That would really drive those insurance costs down.
And the Robocop 2 anti-theft device.
Anyone?
No, not at all. You are projecting. My opinions on design are formed through various different means.
I'd love to meet these mythical unicorns that think a Crossfire is a good looking car.
The NHTSA and European regulatory bodies that buy these cars and test them for safety have a lot to do with it. If anything, they probably don't gather enough data.
PseudoKirby
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ahem
but NOTHING beats this design
sexier than the MKIV Supra
also not sure why people can compliment the Supra, but put down the Soarer, they share so much.
This isn't a great thread to ask for car advice. In fact, most of the time... it is complete shit.
I am surprised that no one answered your question about the Q5 seeing how Audi is completely killing and at a level of marquee that encourages heavy masturbation.
Pretty sure he said "awesome" cars.
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sexier than the MKIV Supra
also not sure why people can compliment the Supra, but put down the Soarer, they share so much.
Yes, my point still stands about Toyota.
Secondly, yes, the last gen RX-7 was a fantastic looking car.
ClassyPenguin
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I desperately want a 3rd gen RX7
why do I have to be so broke?
why do I have to be so broke?
A friend of ours. She loves it. But you should consider a Tiguan too. Same car. Cheaper, boring-er interior.
Keep looking.
Yes, he did.
Almost 20 years later, many newer cars costing twice as much can't touch the driving dynamics of the FD.
As I recall, the Top Gear guys liked the convertible one.
Clarkson compared it to a squatting dog taking a dump.
He called the FR-S "awesome".
AlphaTwo00
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Which then with the convertible, isn't an issue.
Any advice GAF?
That was the coupe version.
BrokenEchelon
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Does your wife actually care that the A3 is FWD? In fact, does she care about how the car drives at all?
The Lexus CT 200h is probably your best bet. Comfy, safe, hybrid MPG, Toyota reliability, etc.
Maybe look at an Acura TSX while you're at it.
My wife prefers the lighter steering cars vs something like a BMW. I am not sure how the A3 stacks in that area.
Personally, I would love it if she drove a Quattro. (but need to ask he if she has a preference). Seattle gets a lot of snow on occasion, so it would be great to have a back up. I drive an Infinity M35 RWD and this thing does not have a prayer in the snow. I've noticed that A3 Quattro's are a bit hard to find though.
PS. Thanks for the TSX suggestion.
PseudoKirby
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The 2.0T is FWD I think, the only one that comes with the 6 speed
the V6 has AWD but is only Automatic, unless they've changed this recently..
but NOTHING beats this design
Someone fucking stance-kiddied an FD? I hope they die in a fire.
PseudoKirby
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Can I ask why you think the Soarer is ugly?
Perhaps -- I am not sure myself since I have not been one for hatchbacks for a long time. My wife has also only driven sedans. Maybe we just both like the lines of the 200h??
IMO rear wheel drive is generally a plus because there is no torque steer.
Well at the suggestion of someone in this thread, I just bought a 1996 Geo Prizm with 80k miles for $2500. Car is basically mint, both the interior and outside look new and mostly everything is original.
When I was driving it though the owner mentioned to watch the engine doesn't get too hot. We drove for like a half hour or so and brought it to my house but I can't drive it right now because I don't have plates/insurance. I didn't think to ask him why should I worry about that? I DID notice however that the engine stayed cool the entire time, so why did he bring it up?
The car was his fiance's grandparents' car and was garaged and barely used. But now I'm nervous that something could be wrong with it. I checked the oil, transmission fluid, etc. and all was good. But this dude has me freaked out now.
Any advice? I'm super stoked to finally have a car again and this car is seemingly going to be a great car.
When I was driving it though the owner mentioned to watch the engine doesn't get too hot. We drove for like a half hour or so and brought it to my house but I can't drive it right now because I don't have plates/insurance. I didn't think to ask him why should I worry about that? I DID notice however that the engine stayed cool the entire time, so why did he bring it up?
The car was his fiance's grandparents' car and was garaged and barely used. But now I'm nervous that something could be wrong with it. I checked the oil, transmission fluid, etc. and all was good. But this dude has me freaked out now.
Any advice? I'm super stoked to finally have a car again and this car is seemingly going to be a great car.
Mighta just been giving you some 'no shit' advice. However, if you're really concerned, you could consider getting a proper temp gauge.
Also consider getting the coolant flushed and filled.
chickdigger802
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fr-s needs a paperbag over the face, but the ass is fine...
Is there a reason why the key fob of cars at toyota dealers still say supra on them?
Is there a reason why the key fob of cars at toyota dealers still say supra on them?
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